Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Commander 2015 (C15) Common
Duel Decks: Venser vs. Koth (DDI) Common
2011 Core Set (M11) Common

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Scry 2, then draw a card. (To scry 2, look at the top two cards of your library, then put any number of them on the bottom of your library and the rest on top in any order.)

Preordain Discussion

Cloudius on We Love Freebies! *Primer*

1 week ago

hkhssweiss Agree. I'm with you that Preordain > Crystal Ball . Scry effects are filters most of the time, the only time they count as manipulation, is when the 2nd card is what you want and you "manipulate" it to the top. LOL

Lemme try out E. Tutor over C. Ball and let you know how it went. Cheers.

hkhssweiss on We Love Freebies! *Primer*

1 week ago

Cloudius, your right about the effects they have, but it really isn't manipulation per say. More of a filter, I like Preordain more in a combo based setting as you have more control over the card draw and less of a mana investment. Having a preordain in your hand in the beginning on T1 than having Crystal Ball T1 hand. E-Tutor is just great overall :P

Cloudius on We Love Freebies! *Primer*

1 week ago

hkhssweiss Thanks for your inputs and good analysis. You're right about Enlightened Tutor .

I categorised Crystal Ball as top of library manipultion instead of tutor so they serve slightly different purposes. If I want to include E.Tutor, the Ball or Preordain would be on the chopping board as they're the weaker cards among the list of 12 top library manipulators.

praetor605 on Wheelfinity

1 week ago

Hi, nice deck. I just recently built a Niv deck as well and would suggest a few things. Take a hard look at any lands that do not tap for color mana, cause Niv is tough to cast so any colorless lands need to really be worth it. Along the same lines, you want artifacts that tap for color mana, so Commander's Sphere , Coalition Relic , and even Fellwar Stone and better than something like Thought Vessel . Finally, I would replace some of the higher cmc cards like Ring of Three Wishes and Planar Bridge with cheaper cantrips like Ponder , Preordain , and Brainstorm . These cheaper spells are really the gas that can get Niv rolling. Hope this helps, and good luck with the deck!

SynergyBuild on Several things; & some questions ...

1 week ago

Aminatou/Top openers are very hard, however anything works for that line, Ponder , Preordain , Brainstorm , Opt , etc.

Just make sure if you use a Impulse effect you set the pile up like:

Frantic Search, Gitaxian Probe, Reanimate, Whisper, Lab Man, so you can take the search, bottom the Whisper, Reanimate, and Probe, then cast Search and win

mitomeg on Tips for powering up my ...

1 week ago

Hi guys, i'm an old school MtG player who got on MTGO for the first time 4 days ago. I've only played Mono Black in a casual format until now, so i'm not an expert.

I've chosen to play the Pauer format on MTGO and i've started with a UB Teachings... this is my Decklist:

LANDS: 1x Bojuka Bog 3x Dimir Aqueduct 4x Dismal Backwater 7x Island 1x Mortuary Mire 2x Radiant Fountain 4x Swamp

INSTANT: 1x Dispel 1x Disfigure 1x Tragic Slip 4x Counterspell 1x Deprive 2x Essence Scatter 1x Doom Blade 1x Diabolic Edict 3x Think Twice 1x Soul Manipulation 3x Forbidden Alchemy 1x Mystical Teachings

SORCERY: 1x Preordain 2x Duress 1x Wretched Banquet 3x Chainer's Edict 1x Shrivel 3x Rakshasa's Secret 1x Deep Analysis

CREATURES: 2x Sea Gate Oracle 1x Mulldrifter 3x Gurmag Angler

SIDEBOARD: 1x Chainer's Edict 1x Crypt Incursion 1x Dispel 1x Doom Blade 2x Duress 1x Mulldrifter 2x Negate 1x Nihil Spellbomb 1x Sea Gate Oracle 2x Shrivel 1x Stormbound Geist 1x Echoing Decay

I've got more losses than wins (probably mostly due to the fact the i'm new to this type of deck) but i'm wondering if you guys have some tips for maximize my chances to win consedering the actual meta in pauper.

I'm not playing in tournaments right now.


Thanks in advice!!

Cloudius on PDH-Are my creatures vanishing or is it your deck?

2 weeks ago

+1 for an interesting take on PDH mill.

Some suggestions:

1) If you're a fan of Infinite Combos, here's one for you:

  • Archaeomancer or Salvager of Secrets or Scrivener + Peregrine Drake + Either of these Blink cards: Ghostly Flicker or Displace
  • With both the Wizard and Drake in play, cast Flicker or Displace to blink them.
  • Return the blink card using Wizard's ETB trigger. Rinse and repeat to generate infinite mana.
  • Next blink the Wizard and your Commander as many times as needed to win the game.

You can exclude the Drake if you're not a fan of infinite combos and just blink the Wizard and your Commander once for every spent.

There's also Mnemonic Wall if you need more recursion.

2) Banishing Knack - Redundancy for Retraction Helix.

3) Darting Merfolk / Dream Stalker - Can return itself to your hand, so essentially, a more expensive Shrieking Drake, just in case you need more options.

4) Temporal Fissure - Pauper's Cyclonic Rift since PDH games usually last longer and it is common for us to have 10 lands/mana sources out. You can easily play and bounce Drake 5 times and cast this for massive bounce shenanigans.

5) I'd advise against playing cards like Thought Scour as a once-off effect to mill 2 cards ain't impactful in EDH. If you're playing it for the card draw, there're plenty of better options in at the pauper level:

Preordain , Serum Visions , Divination , Counsel of the Soratami , Secrets of the Golden City , just to name a few popular ones.

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Preordain occurrence in decks from the last year


All decks: 1.07%

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.11%

Blue: 0.66%

U/R (Izzet): 1.03%

W/U/B (Esper): 0.54%

U/B/R (Grixis): 0.67%