Preordain

Preordain

Sorcery

Scry 2, then draw a card. (To scry 2, look at the top two cards of your library, then put any number of them on the bottom of your library and the rest on top in any order.)

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Set Rarity
Commander 2015 (C15) Common
Duel Decks: Venser vs. Koth (DDI) Common
2011 Core Set (M11) Common

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Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Casual Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

Preordain occurrence in decks from the last year

Legacy:

All decks: 1.07%

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.11%

Blue: 0.66%

UR (Izzet): 1.03%

WUB (Esper): 0.54%

UBR (Grixis): 0.67%

Preordain Discussion

SideBae on Phenax, God Of Deception

5 hours ago

So I think you should run Preordain in addition to your Ponder. It's a similar effect and is a powerful t1 play. I wouldn't run Brainstorm until you run at least three more fetches, though they don't have to be Zendikar/Onslaught fetches to work; consider Terramorphic Expanse, Bad River or even Prismatic Vista.

I think you should run Toxic Deluge, though it can be a bit pricy. Have you considered running snow-covered lands and Dead of Winter? I'm a big fan, even though it gives you less control than Toxic Deluge.

In general, I do not like 3-mana mana-rocks at all -- 2-mana mana-rocks are common enough, and 3-mana mana-rocks feel like they're just a turn behind. In that vein, I think you should cut Darksteel Ingot and Dimir Locket for cards like Dimir Signet, Coldsteel Heart, Sky Diamond or Charcoal Diamond. These are especially good if you lead with a t1 Sol Ring or choose to run Ancient Tomb.

So, I think you should definitely look at running Eater of the Dead. It's a REALLY old card (1994), but it's actually kinda funny in Phenax, God of Deception. You can use its ability to exile a creature you've milled and untap him, then tap him using Phenax and repeat.

You could consider running Lantern of Insight or (if you got $$$) Field of Dreams. These can give you intel as to whether you want to mill an OP before they draw or on their end step, which in turn lets you choose their draws for them. (In modern/some legacy, this is called 'lantern control.')

Dark Petition and Lim-Dul's Vault seem like they'd be good in addition to your Demonic Tutor and Mystical Tutor.

Windfall? It's REALLY good with Narset, Parter of Veils or a Notion Thief out.

One thing that I notice frequently going wrong with decks with generals who don't directly produce card-advantage is that they often simply run out of cards. I highly suggest bringing Fact or Fiction in from your maybeboard, and potentially running things like Chart a Course, Night's Whisper, Treasure Cruise, Necropotence, Dig Through Time, Chemister's Insight etc. to make up for this.

Right. That's all I got. Good luck.

SideBae on Dennis Rodman - Taigam Rebound

5 days ago

I have a few suggestions, if you're interested:

  1. Your rocks could use improvement. I've never been a fan of Primal Amulet  Flip, if only because it's 4 mana and needs time to flip. You'd probably be better off running something like Talisman of Progress or even just Fellwar Stone. My inclination would be to run a bunch of two-drop rocks, since they'll let you cast your general turn three.

  2. Urza-block 'free spells' might be worth considering... casting Snap or Frantic Search off rebound still untaps lands, so it's sort of like a build-your-own ritual effect.

  3. Treasure Cruise is similar to Dig Through Time as it's a card-advantage engine that probably feel good to cast off rebound. Is also super-triggers Dovescape.

  4. Ponder and Preordain are definitely worth running in addition to your Brainstorm.

SideBae on Scarab God Reanimator/Control

5 days ago

The deck is in the 'help' section so I'll leave some ideas... I hope I'm not being presumptuous:

  1. You may want to consider running all the relevant Zendikar fetches; I see you're missing Marsh Flats, for example. They're expensive, but you're running Underground Sea so I'm assuming budget isn't really a problem. The reason I say you should run them is that a. they'll make your Jace, the Mind Sculptor's Brainstorm ability that much better, and b. they'll let you run ACTUAL Brainstorm effectively. I've found cantrips to be really effective in EDH, and I think in addition to Brainstorm you should run Ponder and Preordain in pretty much any blue deck.

  2. I think Murderous Rider is likely better than Hero's Downfall. It does tuck itself when it dies, which means reanimating it could be a little tricky, but having the extra value of being able to cast it as a creature seems a strict upgrade from just an instant.

  3. I'm surprised you aren't running Windfall -- it's a discard outlet and a draw spell all-in-one. I think you should run it; same goes for Fact or Fiction and Jace, Vryn's Prodigy  Flip.

  4. If you do end up running Jace's Archivist from the 'Maybeboard,' consider running Geth's Grimoire, Waste Not and/or Bone Miser. I've always been a fan of the discard subtheme in EDH, and it goes pretty well with reanimation strategies. If you do consider running those cards, it's worth noting Windfall, Liliana of the Veil, Raven's Crime and Words of Waste are also really synergistic with them.

  5. I'm surprised you're not running Talisman of Dominance or Mana Vault. They both seem like good ramp for this deck.

  6. I don't know if you have a problem with her staxiness, but I think Narset, Parter of Veils is the Cat's PJs. Especially with Windfall.

  7. Lastly, I think Graveborn Muse has a spot in this deck. I know you said you aren't looking for zombie tribal, but she's at worst a Phyrexian Arena and you're tangentially making more zombies anyway. I feel like most of the time she'll draw you somewhere between 2 and 4 cards, which seems like it makes her worth it.

Right. That's all I got. Good luck!

SideBae on Yuriko’s Ninja Tricks

5 days ago

So this deck is marked under 'help,' so I'll list my recommendations. Feel free to ignore any/all of them:

  1. Some of your choices of countermagic seem questionable. Is there a reason you're running Withering Boon over something like Remove Soul or Essence Scatter? I guess the blue spells can be Pyroblast-ed, but I feel like not having to bolt yourself is worth it for the marginal added risk.

  2. You may wish to consider running Preordain in addition to your Brainstorm and Ponder. Like in Legacy Delver decks, it isn't as good since you'd need to top both cards with the scry to guarantee a high CMC flip off Yuriko, but I feel like one-mana cantrips are likely good enough to run regardless.

  3. There are some evasive creatures worth running in Yuriko because their ETB effects are good and ninjutsu bounces the creatures. I'm thinking of things like Baleful Strix, Snapcaster Mage (if you want to invest money), Trinket Mage (which can fetch Sensei's Divining Top, Sol Ring and any other 1-cmc artifacts you want to run), Spellseeker... If you want to go deep, Thalakos Seer works well with Ninjutsu, too...

  4. You might also consider running Conspiracy or Arcane Adaptation. I like Arcane Adaptation a lot more (it costs less mana) but both are good, and if you need a third version Xenograft works. They'll make things like Gingerbrute trigger your Yuriko.

  5. Some 4-cmc instant-speed card-draw seems alright; you leave up mana for a counter, and if you don't need it you get a draw. Consider things like Fact or Fiction, Chemister's Insight, Glimmer of Genius, Frantic Search, Gush, Thirst for Knowledge, Inspiration... They'll ding your opponents off a Yuriko flip and give you something to do with mana you don't need on their end steps.

  6. Idk how competitive your meta is, but consider running Narset, Parter of Veils and/or Ashiok, Dream Render. These two hose card-draw and fetches/tutors, which are all very common as you go higher in deck power level. I especially like Narset, Parter of Veils with Windfall or Timetwister, but that'll depend on your particular moral compass.

  7. Lastly, if you up the amount of artifact ramp in here you can lower the land count and make flipping a land off Yuriko less common. While it may be dangerous to go lower than 30 lands if you're not running things like Mana Crypt, Mox Diamond or Mox Opal (which you should run if your groups allows proxies), you may have luck running things like Talisman of Dominance, Arcane Signet or Fellwar Stone. If you don't land a turn-two general, these'll ramp you for the later game; and even if you do, flipping them off Yuriko's trigger is better than flipping a land.

Right. That's all I got -- let me know if you have any questions.

Sidisis_unfaithful on Grixis Control pioneer

6 days ago

Chang-Oz Agonizing remorse seems like very strong selective grave hate (and hand hate too) Sultai delirium etc is something I'm concerned about, but currently the closest thing to reanimator in my meta is izzet phoenix xD. Having siad that Kalitas is decent grave hate, but would it be worth putting erebos' intervention back in the sideboard in case of a reanimator based matchup?

I'm still not convinced I should cut the omens, as they're effectively instant speed Preordain with the upside of 2U: scry 2.

Unmoored ego is a very strong card against lotus breach and inverter decks, as you can hit Lotus Field itself (which really cripples them) and/ or inverter (which cripples the inverted deck), so I'd rather not remove my silver bullet to those combo decks if possible.

Thanks again for your help!

Azeworai on Atemsis, Gochta!

1 week ago

Ah, quirky commanders are always an oddity, but delectation to brew. Now, Mono-Blue isn't exactly my forté, but I believe I may be of aid.

So, I am an adherent to running fewer lands; Thirty-six in Mono-Blue should be a crime. In their lieu, I would recommend many cantrips. If it goes three cards deep, say Preordain, then I consider it a half of a land. Four or more cards, I deem a full land. At least, this is with my experience in gameplay. As such, Impulse is absolutely lovely. Two-mana, instant-speed, what more could a player desire?

Forbidden Alchemy, Chart a Course, Strategic Planning, and Frantic Search are of note.

Baral, Chief of Compliance could be absolutely lovely: For one person, at least.

Spellseeker has never disappointed me. She finds Cyclonic Rift, Preordain, Counterspell, and Finale of Revelation, for ones in the decklist.

Every deck needs graveyard hate! Tormod's Crypt and Relic of Progenitus are both things that Trinket Mage can tutor for, but there are far more options out there. If you are to add Tolaria West could search for Scavenger Grounds.

Quicksilver Fountain is fantastically mean, though effective. It combos painfully well with Oboro, Palace in the Clouds. Target the land with the fountain, bounce it in response, whereupon the trigger fizzles and you are not to be afflicted by infinite islands.

Anent what I would cut:

Flow of Ideas seems slow, sorcery-speed, and expensive to cast. Big draw spells shouldn't be dependent on board-state unless you're playing green and have no choice. Try Stroke of Genius or Pull from Tomorrow.

This deck looks to have some busy early turns, seeing the abundance of 1-3 mana spells. Myriad Landscape enters tapped and still requires mana to ramp. I'd prefer just another Island. Though, a land worth considering is Riptide Laboratory just has quite a bit of utility.

Something I merely wish to put out there; I dislike Temple of the False God very much. That's all for that point.

One direction you could take this deck is group-hug. It draws you cards, keeps others from heeding your schemes, and allows for kills out of the blue. (get it?)

I suppose that's all from me. May fortune be with you!

SideBae on The Sea Summoning (Cthulhu inspired and help!)

1 month ago

I mean, I think the easiest way you could improve the deck is through including more ramp. I've personally always been a fan of Ancient Tomb in mono-colored decks, and it's especially good if you can use it to land a turn one Mind Stone, Sapphire Medallion etc. While those are good two-drops, you might want to consider running other ones in addition to the ones you already have: consider Sky Diamond, Coldsteel Heart, Arcane Signet, Prismatic Lens... Being able to add {u} is generally a big upgrade. Also Sol Ring. Also consider running Castle Vantress to use up the mana you don't need at the end of your OP's turn.

I see you're running Brainstorm and Preordain, which I think are simply absurd cards that should be in any blue deck. I think you should also be running Ponder. Additionally, you should (if you have the budget) consider running land-based shuffle effects to pair with your Brainstorm. Flooded Strand, Misty Rainforest, Prismatic Vista etc. allow you to shuffle away any cards you put on top so you don't have to redraw them. Also, if you choose to include Mystic Sanctuary, you can fetch it out to redraw a Cyclonic Rift or Engulf the Shore when you need to.

Card-draw is good. Consider cards like Windfall, Fact or Fiction, Chart a Course...

Grubbernaut on Exalted Agent

1 month ago

Love the idea. Only thing I'd swap is Opt for Brainstorm, Ponder or Preordain.

Cheers!

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