|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Iconic Masters (IMA)||Common|
|Modern Masters 2015 Edition (MM2)||Common|
|Tempest Remastered (TPR)||Common|
|Duel Decks: Speed vs. Cunning (DDN)||Common|
|2012 Core Set (M12)||Common|
|2011 Core Set (M11)||Common|
|Ninth Edition (9ED)||Common|
|Ninth Edition Foreign Black Border (9EDFBB)||Common|
|Eighth Edition (8ED)||Common|
|Promo Set (000)||Common|
|Promo set for Gatherer (PSG)||Common|
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Counter target spell unless its controller pays .
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Mana Leak Discussion
2 days ago
Out: 1 Negate , 1 Wooded Foothills , 1 Logic Knot , 1 Force of Negation (went in sideboard), 1 Serum Visions In: 1 Crackling Drake , 1 Fiery Islet , 1 Narset, Parter of Veils , 1 Fact or Fiction , 1 Mana Leak
Some big moves happened after playing a couple weekend test games. I felt like i wanted a main board finisher that would have to be answered or just end the game right there ( Crackling Drake ) and I wanted more versatile counter magic ( ie. Mana Leak ). As for the addition of Fact or fiction I wanted to test out some new tech although 4 mana is a lot, so that's my flex spot right now. Three for Narset feels pretty good. she gets a lot of value down the turn she is played and allows me to replace her quickly as well as dump some targets for snap caster mage into the bin. The land was an easy choice as although the fetches help thin my deck if I start to flood fiery islet allows me to pitch it for one and draw a cord at instant speed.
As a general note I've been loving the feel of the deck overall. It feels fast and very reactive. yet can go up against death shadows midrange and blue white control really well in grindy games( though it doesnt quite get there but I blame that more on myself as a new control/ tempo player than I do on the deck.
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
Sorry for taking a bit to respond. Thanks for the words of praise, this deck is my favorite and i'm glad other folks have a positive opinion of the build. In terms of budget, I can definitely understand that some cards seem just pointlessly expensive. Here are some suggestions i'd offer for each of the previously mentioned cards:
- Mana Drain : This one's a bit tricky, as there aren't many counters that offer ramp as well. This is entirely dependent on your meta, but if you're playing in a more casual group you could use: Plasm Capture , Arcane Denial , Mana Leak , or Split Decision . If you're going for something more competitive that'd narrow the list to maybe Force of Negation . I'm sorry if that last one was a bit pricey.
- Wheel of Fortune : Windfall . Unless you want to stick to red, then i'd go with Reforge the Soul .
- Mox Diamond : There are a number of different directions you could go with here - i'd likely pick one of the Talismans printed in Modern Horizons or Mirrodin. Additionally, there are alternative "Balanced" Moxes like Mox Tantalite or Mox Opal that are affordable.
- Mana Crypt : The first thing that came to mind was Prismatic Geoscope - even though they don't exactly compare 1 for 1. Other than that I can't think of any alternate mana rocks that would really fit in this slot.
Onward to the alternatives:
- Green Sun's Zenith : A solid inclusion for a tutor. A possible alternative would be Finale of Devastation as this can also tutor your graveyard and pump your board for an alternate wincon.
- Worldly Tutor : If you aren't running The First Sliver then I'd suggest you leave this one out. Just run Eladamri's Call .
- Armageddon :Excellent soft lock card for the "alternate win" strategy using a Mana Dork . A solid inclusion.
I think you have some great card choices there. Leave a link to your deck so I can give it some Chitinous Blessings. Thanks for commenting on the page!
2 weeks ago
Hey hope595. Glad to hear that the list is treating you well. Flusterstorm at $8 for the topper is a really solid pickup and first upgrade to the list. In this version of the list it would replace Mana Leak . As far as tuning the list is concerned, the reason I made so many versions of the deck was to show what upgrades to make first. Grabbing everything between $10-25 is probably best bet to start, but focus mostly on the mana base. That will drastically improve the speed of the deck. In regards to upgrades with cards like Mox Diamond or Timetwister (both of which are on my full power list’s Acquireboard), they aren’t 100% necessary. Mox Diamond would be the better pickup of the two at a near tenth of the cost of the latter. However, I haven’t had any problems running the deck without either. As far as other cards of that level go ( Mana Crypt , Chrome Mox , Mox Opal , etc...) they are what make the deck shine and make it a force to be reckoned with in a lot of ways. The amount of sheer speed they add to the deck makes it formidable, and the versatility in casting ability makes it viable against other cEDH level decks. It’s not Zur, it’s not TnT, and it’s not Najeela, but it holds its own and can squeeze out wins enough for me to be happy with. In truth, I picked up the pieces in paper to turn Sydri into Zur at will so that at tables where I would normally be the weakest player I can make swaps before the game to be on par with everyone.
3 weeks ago
Well, here's what I would do:
-all 15 creatures
+4 Fatal Push
+4 Rune Snag
+1 Mana Leak
3 weeks ago
Bolas in modern, huh. The only way you're gonna be getting to 7 mana in this format is by going all-in on the control plan, so a Spirit subtheme probably won't work out too well as they're more for tempo/aggro decks. Instead, I'd go for a good ol' grixis control shell, like this: Grixis Control. Lots of removal, usually 4-6 hand disruption spells, and some counterspells.
Your most important cards are Fatal Push and Lightning Bolt , which are two of the best removal spells in the format. If you're willing to buy I suggest that you make getting playsets of them a top priority since they're used in pretty much every deck with their colors. Next, I should ask how you want to play: do you want to focus more on killing creatures, countering spells, or be proactive and make your opponents discard cards? I only ask this because I assume you don't want to shell out your entire fortune on buying cards like Snapcaster or Liliana, which let grixis decks do all of those things equally well. Your answer will help with card choices and also with mana base building, which is kind of tricky in budget 3-color control decks. I suggest going more counterspell/removal heavy since there are good, cheap counterspells like Mana Leak that make it easier to build a decent deck for less money and it'll stack up better against what you face locally (except maybe the UR control deck) if you focus on those.
Basic advice is this: focus more on removal and counterspells, less on spirits and you're pretty much good to go. If you're willing to spend money on this deck, all the cards you need to know of are in the deck I linked above. Recommended budget spells for the main: Mana Leak / Rune Snag , Terminate , Mission Briefing , Cry of the Carnarium / Anger of the Gods , Inquisition of Kozilek (not budget but if you're buying them anyway you should put them in), Opt .
3 weeks ago
Sadly, Tormod's Crypt is still not pauper legal: https://scryfall.com/card/c14/278/tormods-crypt
I was disappointed they didn't put it in Horizons at common.
You might also consider Memory Lapse over Mana Leak , seeing as most of the time you're probably only needing to buy one or two turns, with this deck. I'd also cut some number of SB cards for Pyroblast .
3 weeks ago
I don't see too much stuff besides Mana Echoes to get a decent amount of mana for a kill, so getting it seems pretty importamt here. Also useful in assembling the pillowfort you desire.
Mana Leak occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.35%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%