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Mana Leak Discussion
1 day ago
I really like your deck and admire your desire to make inexpensive edh decks. That being said I do believe there are some ways you could improve this deck without breaking the budget.
While you do have plenty of board wipe effects I notice that you only have a few single target removal spells. Board wipes are great but the problem is the fact that they are sorcery speed. The ability to react on your opponents turn is invaluable so I would highly recommend adding one or two more instant speed removal spells. Some notable ones would be
I also think there are some counterspell's you would be better off for running that are pretty cheap.
- Sinister Sabotage is basically a Cancel with upside and still pretty cheap.
- Rewind is almost free in the late game.
- Foil is a budget Force of Will that would fit great in your deck given your high island count.
- Arcane Denial is just a solid counter spell in EDH since it replaces itself and the advantage it gives your opponent is mitigated by the multiplayer format.
- I would also recommend running Forbid since you seem to draw so many cards but this one is a little more pricey.
The only other general improvement I would recommend would be try to add some dual lands. Even if they come into play tapped, dual lands do wonders to help a deck perform at its best. Some really budget ones I'd recommend are.
- Irrigated Farmland
- Azorius Chancery
- Boreal Shelf
- Coastal Tower
- Meandering River
- Prahv, Spires of Order
- Sejiri Refuge
- Tranquil Cove
I really do like your deck and what you have made so far, but I would like you to at least consider these options to further improve your deck.
wallisface on Catch!
1 day ago
Vexing Devil isn’t an Elemental, so can’t be championed by that card.
If you do go the control route, i’d be dropping the Runaway Steam-Kin, Vexing Devil, Lightning Strike, Shock, and Thud. In their place maybe some varying quantities of things like Remand, Cryptic Command (though careful with these cause you already have tons of 4-drops), Dispel (anything targetting your creature’ll prolly be an instant), Serum Visions, abd Search for Azcanta Flip (max x2)
I should probably add that i’ve suggested the above cards without knowing your budget - if you’re looking for cheaper options stuff like Mana Leak and Vapor Snag could be worth a look. I feel like protecting your creatures is your #1 priority, with your #2 being that you stall the board state for long enough.
Also, with Punch being sorcery speed, you’d better be sure you’re winning the turn you cast it!!
3 days ago
After playtesting I settled on Opt in place of 2x Electrolyze and 2x MB counterspells. While Serum Visions and Sleight of Hand worked great, being instant speed ended up being imperative for Thing in the Ice Flip and buffing Crackling Drake just a bit more during combat.
Dropped another Mission Briefing, and I'm liking it as a 2-of. The requirement can be detrimental in the very early game, and I think Briefing would just be better period if I had more burn spells. However, I don't think I will ever take it out, as I don't think Snapcaster Mage as a 2-of would be better in this case.
Switching to a more proactive build definitely helped the speed of the deck quite a bit, but it made the exact MB counterspells I chose much more important. Playtesting again on Friday, and going to switch the Mana Leaks out for Remands and try that again. Going to try to get a 4th in, but I'm not sure what to cut. Maybe the Unsubstantiate?
Ral, Izzet Viceroy as a 1-of in the MB, and Keranos, God of Storms as a 1-of in the side has been working well so far. For games where I need the big creature removal and a finisher I leave Ral in, when Ral gets removed too easily I switch him for Keranos, and in longer games I have both in the MB.
18-19 lands seems to be the sweet spot. I tried 20 and felt flooded almost every single game. This is a lot of the reason behind just the 2x Drake, and a 1-of Ral/Keranos at a time, because any more of them and they would be stranded in my hand. With the pace the deck forces the game to play at, casting Drakes around T6 and Ral/Keranos around 7 or 8 has worked just fine.
Wandering Fumarole got cut. If I had 22 lands or something ETBT would be fine, but not at 18-19.
4 days ago
Some cards you may want to consider.
- Deadeye Navigator will give infinite mana in combination with Peregrine Drake
- Oblivion Stone is a really nasty combo you can use with Sun Titan
- Felidar Guardian and Altar of the Brood is a good win condition with aminatou as Felidar Guardian can flicker Aminatou which then allows Aminatou to flicker Felidar Guardian, this causes infinite ETB's which will mill everyone at the table with Altar of the Brood out. Plus altar goes well with Trinket Mage which you are already running.
- I also believe you need more flicker effects so I highly recommend andy of the following; Restoration Angel, Venser, the Sojourner, Eldrazi Displacer, Eerie Interlude
- I am not a fan of Mana Leak in edh since it is very common to hold up lots of mana in the late game, I believe any of these counterspells are better while still being budget; Arcane Denial,Disdainful Stroke,Foil,Sinister Sabotage,Rewind and if you have a few dollars I highly recommend Swan Song
- And while I know this is a budget deck, I have to recommend Cyclonic Rift as it is undeniably the strongest blue card in all of EDH.
5 days ago
Aaerys No problem!
Yes definitely keep the artifact synergy, honestly if you don't like the combo approach and want to go for the more interaction routes with fun things to play (like playing with other people's deck ;3) than I would suggest more protection, counterspells, artifact synergy, card draw, as well as interaction.
Here is a list of some additional cards that I found useful and within the $20 or less range.
These cards will make opponents less likely to hit you, or will at least slow them down enough for you to interact with them.
A couple more useful counters, best one I like to use for Sen Triplets is cards like Remand, Muddle (because the 2 cmc transmute comes in clutch), and Arcane Denial as it gives more options to choose from their hand.
Shimmer Myr and Raff Capashen are honestly auto include in my opinion, giving the ability to flash in your commander and not waiting to wait one whole turn before her upkeep effect is amazing, it also allows us to hold up mana to interact with other players before deciding what we can do. The curve is also great since Shimmer Myr is 3 cmc and Raff is 4 cmc, we can hold mana for our counterspells and interactions and if the coast is clear flash in Sen. Trophy Mage is for the redundancy that you have more than a likely chance of tutoring your Shimmer Myr or Crystal Shard (Shard always makes sure that your opponent will be reluctant to tap out and thus preventing them to cast more creature spells). Voltaic Key is there just for more fun shenanigans, I always like having them in these type of artifact decks. Academy Ruins is a card I would highly recommend investing into, it saves your artifacts, it allows recursion, and if the case where Sen dies, you won't have to consistently pay the tax for it with this card on the field.
On another note Paradox Engine is a powerful card, it allows you to gain extreme amount of value, hence the reason you would want to include more mana rocks into the deck. I added Aetherflux into list in the case you want to close out a game, since you are running Isochron Scepter already, adding in Dramatic Reversal will be your win con and also allows you to net infinite mana and play your opponents hand if you so would choose. The playstyle is all there for you to choose ;3
Some choice cards I like to use, Notion Thief is there for them really sneaky plays when there is a mass Windfall or if someone taps out for a burst draw. Sphinx is a high power card engine. The time warp is there for just pure value.
Some notable cards are like Snap, which untaps your land and bounces the creature back to their hand, pure value if its your turn next as now you will be able to cast that creature as well! Capsize is also a deadly card, as you can bounce their land and then play the land you bounced on your turn with Sen on the field, buyback is also killer (I have people scooped many times when I used this trick 1v1). Tower of Magistrate is really interesting against other people playing with artifacts (This auto de-quips voltron commanders!). A lot of these spells can also be copied on to Isochron Scepter making them extremely useful for you to control your opponent and allowing them what spells they can play, bouncing the spells you want to play from their deck, and removing the cards you don't like.
One more card which is a great mana rock.
Hopefully this gives you a better idea of a Control Sen Triplets shell, I think you can tell that this was one of my favorite decks before I retired her ;P
6 days ago
Unless I’m missing something (I am not a Pauper player) I’d rather have 2 more copies of Mana Leak than the two Prohibit, and I’d run a third Brainstorm over Devious Cover-Up (I am not a fan of 4-Mana counterspells).
6 days ago
So as a fellow player of Renegade Freighter I'm happy to call this one of the coolest new takes on the idea for vehicles. The exalted really helps push damage through and you seem pretty capable of being a real threat even without vehicles. Mobile Garrison is also intersting as it help defend, but I feel as though it could be a dead card if you already have a Frieghter out and attacking, but whether you agree or not with that is fine.
However I'd say that you should think about Kami of False Hope or Holy Day instead of Fog in the sideboard as you seem to have more white than green mana sources. Additionally I would run either Natural State or Fragmentize over Caustic Caterpillar unless you want to keep the creature to help crew vehicles. Also I would consider a few other ideas:
Sideboard Change Reccomendations: 2 Holy Day or Kami of False Hope, 2 Fragmentize or Natural State, 2 Gods Willing or Benevolent Bodyguard or Apostle's Blessing, 3 Mana Leak or Dispell or Vapor Snag, 3 Spell Pierce, 3 Life Goes On,
Mana Leak is a good card, but if your using three colours you'll probably want to use as efficent spells as possible such as Dispell; and Vapor Snag is also a good way to stop irritating creatures and is a favorite of mine but Mana leak is still good so keep it if you like it. But mana efficency is also why I reccomend Apostle's Blessing as it can cast with any colour; and as a side note Benevolent Bodyguard can crew vehicles which is relevent, which is also applicable to my recomendation for Kami of False Hope.
I know this may seem like a lot of stuff to reccomend but I love your deck concept and I'd love to see it improve! Cheers and have fun out there!
1 week ago
It seems like you're isn't working (yet). How long ago did you upload it? it might just be taking some time to do thing.
As for alters in general:
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