Creature — Human Cleric
As Sanctum Prelate enters the battlefield, choose a number.
Noncreature spells with converted mana cost equal to the chosen number can't be cast.
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Sanctum Prelate Discussion
2 weeks ago
4 weeks ago
Thoughts anyone on cuts/additions?
4 months ago
1/ Upgradable to Legacy
Well, the idea is that both formats require different hate cards, but there is overlap. You need basically 3 Karakas, 4 Rishadan Port, 4 Wasteland and 4 Stoneforge Mystic and probably Batterskull, Sword of Fire and Ice and Umezawa's Jitte and 4 Swords to Plowshares and the newer lists play Recruiter of the Guard and Sanctum Prelate. and that is just the main board.
There is overlap but very minimum. I would ignore it.
2/ Death and Taxes is just not a good deck. Modern is quite a cheaty format. You either cheat on how much mana you have(valakut decks, tron), how many spells you can cast in a single turn (affinity, storm) or have 10/10s for a single mana (Death's Shadow) something, while death and taxes does none of that - it is a fair deck.
3/ Burn has all the qualities you list and is super easy to port to legacy.
4 months ago
Thanks for your comment Managem,
Fleecemane Lion is perfect fit for the deck, I cant believe I forgot this card, great suggestion I'll look into taking some cards out to see if i cant fit some in.
Archangel of Tithes is another good suggestion, and always pairs well with turning Karametra, God of Harvests into a creature while stalling the board, may have to invest in 2 of these, but like, fleecmane i'll have to do some slight changes.
Sanctum Prelate is good, but im keeping this deck in modern.
I'll let you know what I make changes for, but these are all great suggestions.
4 months ago
Ooooohhh laaaawd, dis righ here looks like a pain of a deck to deal with.
Seems solid as is, notable cards that might be worth mentioning, or play testing would be control/lock etc.
Things like that
4 months ago
@meowndabout Nice questions! Glad to help with this. I changed the write up slightly, to include a sample blue print for playing the deck. That answers some of your questions, other ones are below.
Fauna Shaman - usually you discard extra mana elves (which aren't that great in the mid-game) to get actual stax pieces or utility creatures. But, also, you can just discard anything. It turns each creature into a Worldly Tutor + free card draw.
Loyal Retainers - this is actually best with Iona, Shield of Emeria, which is decent to run if your meta has some mono-colored decks. However, it's worth leaving in the deck even without Iona, just to get back anything that happens to get killed. It's pretty good reanimation, just by itself.
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale - Actually, Magus of the Tabernacle is a pretty good replacement. Tabernacle is here mostly to combat other decks that rely on creatures and mana elves (like us), but have a harder time tutoring for Gaea's Cradle. To perform this function, another answer is Defense of the Heart. Magus might be better since it's a creature and slides under your Thorn of Amethyst effects.
Nullstone Gargoyle - this is a new card I'm testing. It's easily hard-castable with Gaea's Cradle and Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx. And it's a pretty strong lock with Eidolon of Rhetoric. Yes, if I could get this lock together, I'd just cast creature after that.
Recruiter of the Guard - you just get whatever you need for the situation you're in. Get whatever stops your opponents the hardest. You have to know how your opponent's strategies work.
Sanctum Prelate - pretty much always names 2 or 3. These stop boardwipes that sneak under Gaddock Teeg; on three you stop: Toxic Deluge and Fire Covenant; on two you stop Cyclonic Rift and Pyroclasm. I usually pick either 2 or 3 based on which board wipe I'm more afraid of at the moment; but in either case you end up shutting off large parts of your opponents' decks.
Yisan, the Wanderer Bard - this is becoming less important in this list; however I think it's still probably good enough to run. Yeah, you just get whatever is most helpful. You can either get Quirion Ranger on 1 to activate Yisan or Sisay twice per turn, or you get Sylvan Safekeeper to guard Sisay against spot removal. After that, you know, get whatever you need.
Crop Rotation - there's a lot of strong lands in the list. Strip Mine and Horizon Canopy are very good with Ramunap Excavator. You can also get Tabernacle. You can get one of the ramp-lands like Gaea's Cradle, nykthos, or Ancient Tomb. If possible, you should always sacrifice a Flagstones of Trokair.
Creature tutors - You get whatever you really need top stop what your opponents are doing. These tutors let you get non-legendary creatures tho, so sometimes you can get Sanctum Prelate or Eidolon of Rhetoric or Spirit of the Labyrinth if one of those seems really appropriate, or you're in a winning position already, you can go for the kill with Shaman of the Forgotten Way or a lock with Nullstone Gargoyle.
Enlightened Tutor - yes, frequently the most powerful thing to get with this is Living Plane, although there's a lot of great artifact/enchantment stax pieces you may want, particularly Rest in Peace, Null Rod or Sphere of Resistance. It can get ramp in Mana Crypt or Carpet of Flowers. It can also get Lightning Greaves which can be great for Sisay. This card is awesome in this list.
Gemstone Caverns, Chrome Mox - these are ramp, which is totally critical. You just exile whatever you don't need. Try to prioritize playing a turn 1 or 2 stax piece with these ramp cards. Also think about when you will play Sisay. If you have these ramp cards, try to set up a sequence where you play a stax card turn 1, a mana creature turn 2, and SIsay turn 3.
Null Rod, Stony Silence - these only shut off our artifact ramp, not our creature ramp. Only play them if they're going to hurt your opponents more than they hurt you. But the deck is pretty much designed so that it's usually pretty asymmetric, although certain hands and board states can make it more nuanced.
You can totally run snow lands if you want to.
Solemnity - this doesn't do anything...
Ashes of the Abhorrent - This can work if your meta has a lot of reanimation or storm...
4 months ago
mmcgeach Back with more questions :)
Fauna Shaman - what are you discarding to this?
Nullstone Gargoyle - are you hardcasting this? at this point are you not casting noncreature spells?
Recruiter of the Guard - what would you tend to look for?
Sanctum Prelate - what number would you tend to choose?
Yisan, the Wanderer Bard - it doesn't matter what you get each time you search?
Crop Rotation - what land would you sac and in turn, search for?
Gemstone Caverns - this seems really risky - what would you toss to play this with a luck counter?
Chrome Mox - what would you imprint under this?
Carpet of Flowers - if my meta didn't have a lot of blue (yes, i know), what would you put in this spot?
OTHER CARDS TO USE?
5 months ago
Must be a mere coincidence, I was thinking last night of making a partnered EDH deck, and thought Ravos, Soultender and Tymna the Weaver immediately, the access to lifegain, removal, and reanimate between white and black is superb. It would fare well against a lot aside from Aunt Ani aka Animar, Soul of Elements being pro black and white
I have to say I'm impressed with what I just saw in this deck, looks like a blast to pilot. If I may make potential suggestions, or future upgrades it would be the following;
Cavern of Souls choosing cleric obviously
Land Tax This can easily help filter/thin out your deck, while providing potential ramp, not that you necessarily need it much, but still.
Rotlung Reanimator despite the fact you have an Angel that wipes zombs. Rotlung could net you bodies for board presence which can help cushion against attacks, or play offensively if need be...
High Priest of Penance removal
Mikaeus, the Lunarch pumps your clerics well enough
Bishop of Rebirth
Sanctum Prelate Stellar control, if it dies you can always play it anew and choose new numbers with Ravos
True Conviction definitely high cmc but can turn tides easily!
Athreos, God of Passage not a cleric but great reanimator and swinger if online.
Just some examples, there are many variations that can be made of this deck. Especially zombie or spirit token generation that can stabilize the board and propel Tymna the Weaver, anything that has ETB effects are great for Ravos such as
Hope this long list of good junk may help you!