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Chalice of the Void
Chalice of the Void enters the battlefield with X charge counters on it.
Whenever a player casts a spell with converted mana cost equal to the number of charge counters on Chalice of the Void, counter that spell.
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Chalice of the Void Discussion
1 day ago
Like always Ratchet Bomb is great if you expect to use it vs CMC 0 and CMC 1, where we have good targets in Chalice of the Void, Death's Shadow, Slippery Bogle, Relic of Progenitus, elves, etc. But it's rather slow and unreliable after CMC 1. We want to get rid of problematic cards like Rest in Peace and Etched Champion, but also to have the versatility to deal with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Liliana, the Last Hope, Izzet Staticaster, etc.
1 day ago
As folks have already mentioned on r/Infect, Infect is in a really bad place in the meta at the moment. Fatal Push is everywhere, and things like Wild Defiance (which nerfed Lightning Bolt) aren't helpful. I'm also not sure it's going to get better, since I expect to see Solemnity in lots of sideboards starting in mid-July.
All that said, I absolutely love UG Infect, and still play it periodically.
I'm TOTALLY with albino_ninja too on the need for more Creatures. As is, you're going to have to mul' more than you want, and the Black decks are really going to punish you for that with their hand disruption. Creatures with Infect are best of course: Ichorclaw Myr, Necropede, Blight Mamba, and Plague Myr all have different pros and cons ... IMO you can't go wrong with any of them. And maybe 1x Viridian Corrupter too. Another option I've seen some folks use: Sylvan Scrying, which basically acts like extra Inkmoths.
One more thought on Creatures: Because of all our pump spells, I'm always amazed at how often the deck can win with normal damage. So it might be worth looking at something like Invisible Stalker or Thrummingbird too.
Finding room for those Creatures is of course tough. I'm not a huge fan of Groundswell for this deck (it's much better with Fetchlands), so that's a place you can maybe find room. And while I REALLY like having 3 counterspells in the 75, I usually only run one in the main. You may also find you can put some of your protection in the side ... I know we need a TON in the current meta, but you may not actually have enough mana to use it. :-)
Some potential sideboard thoughts:
- Artifact/Enchantment hate: Lots of folks like Nature's Claim but I prefer Seal of Primordium, since you can use it to kill a Chalice of the Void when X=1. This is also a good place for Viridian Corrupter.
- Graveyard Hate: Crook of Comdemnation (recently spoiled for HOU)
- Removal: Dismember or Beast Within (neither is super-cheap, but they're both great IMO)
- Those extra counterspells :-)
- A Wall or some Lifegain (i.e., a budget version of Kitchen Finks): Jaddi Offshoot
- Maybe some Recursion: Noxious Revival
Sorry for the wall of text, and thanks for reading this far!
1 day ago
I actually haven't gotten to play as Grixis Shadow against Sun and Moon yet. It's not a very common deck, especially online. That said, I can see it being problematic. Blood Moon is a problem, Gideon of the Trials is a problem, and Chalice of the Void can be a problem. Leyline of Sanctity coming out of the board will also be annoying. I think Game 1 is probably reasonable thanks to discard, but postboard games might be tough.
As far as the deck's positioning, it looks pretty reasonable at the moment. The tide is starting to turn in terms of decks like Death & Taxes packing dedicated hosers like Mirran Crusader, but overall the deck is just really tight and efficient, so it can sometimes overcome the hate. The only tech I'd recommend going forward are ways to deal with aggressive creature decks that go wide quickly - Elves, Humans, and Merfolk are examples of this. I like Kozilek's Return and Liliana, the Last Hope in those matchups.
4 days ago
@mattman856: Don't forget Battlefield Forge also produces ! The deck's gameplan really is just trying to get either Chalice of the Void, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben or Leonin Arbiter out on T1 (choice depending on opposing deck).
@dotytron: Thanks for your input! I'm always looking to go heavier on red but couldn't make out the right stuff so far. Harsh Mentor looks really interesting and I'll see to it that I can do some testing.
1 week ago
1 week ago
Sorry for the delay. If you want to punish people for thier sins I think stax is the route I would go. I would suggest Mishra, Artificer Prodigy as the commander and Nether Void (if you can proxy) to get around the massive tax effect. Chalice of the Void would also maybe work against greedy decks. You could hate out creature decks with cards like Pendrell Mists and Fire Covenant
1 week ago
Hey, GlistenerAgent. Yeah traditionally that is the case with Wear / Tear, however I believe a lot of that comes with the thought it's a useless sideboard card with other options. However l what's I've found is if you're on the draw, it can destroy your strategy. On the play, don't side it in. I still run the Ancient Grudge but as a one to supplement Hurkyl's Recall. Both are mainly in for the mirror but I see where you're coming from. The idea is if you swing big enough you only need one time. And recall can clean a board, get rid of counters, and return the nexus lands. Some guy ran it like that and I've played it ever since and haven't been disappointed. As for he singletons of Thoughtseize, Stubborn Denial, and others, this deck aimed to create more consistency. The Thoughtseizes are still there. The denial and pierce have been replaced with Chalice of the Void and at 2 rather than one. Which also shuts down storm. I play 3 etched champion. That's typically where they run. With the rise of jund and Fatal Push a decent amount have run 4, but with it being a 3 cost most just run 3 and switch with Master of Etherium still to keep the average CMC down. I would strongly consider changing the Engineered Explosives so a grid or other Ancient Grudge as the grid is good(I forgot about it while making this), and grudge is good for the reasons you said.
1 week ago
Hey everyone, recently I've been working on a Affinity deck and have put the full 75 together; however, recently I've been pondering the sodeboard strategy in Affinity. So, put together a short primer focusing just on a Affinity sideboard.
An affinity deck wins games on its own and really, there aren't very many cards that shut the deck down. There's Stony Silence and kataki, war's mage, recently Harsh Mentor, but the latter doesn't seem to pop up too much yet. On top of that, affinity packs galavanic blast main board to deal with the creatures. I'm sure I'm missing one or two others, but other than the said, removal is really the only other threat (perhaps the biggest of all). The point of the removal in turn becomes to slow Affinity down to the point where the other deck can go off. With that thinking, that they're simply trying to slow you down mosty, why not create a sodeboard that really just stops their deck to the point where removal won't help? The problem with that theory seems to be that it's hard to hit that much of the meta with three cards. I've noticed that most, if not all, affinity decks run a very generalized reactive sideboard for this reason. Cards such as counters, removal, board wipe, and discard, enchantment and artifact removal. All of which don't shut down one deck, but improvise and buy time against any deck instead of completely shutting down one. Even worse, the sideboards typically run so few of each to combat so much meta, that there's really no consistency with drawing what you sideboard. The later is probably due to just how well the deck runs. Could this not be improved though? Surely affinity can gain consistency and completely shut down major threats within the meta, without sacrificing to much of the flexibility of the sideboard. So, here are my thoughts on some cards that I think should be staples in every sideboard and the number to which they should be played. Let me know what you all think.
Slots 1&2: Spellskite seems to be to slow for Affinity at first, but when you're thinking about what you would put spellskite up against, it's not that bad. The most obvious is bogles. It steals the auras which actually makes it the pretty fast. Other than that it stops infect by stealing their pumps, stops burn by eating two spells which is crucial against burn who empties their hand fast, and eats any removal to protect the goods. It also pumps Cranial Plating and arcbound ravanger. It's not the most important card as it only shuts down two or three decks and bogles and infect are fringe at this point, and for this reason it's a 2 of for alright consistency since without it you might not face those matchups anyways.
Slots 3-5: Blood Moon is a 3 of because of how much of the meta it can shut down at this point. With the inclusion of fetches and shocks in recent years, many decks are only running maybe two or three basics at this point. And the biggest, or one of the biggest problems for Affinity? Jund. It can completely stop jund when on the play. And jund is packed with a ton of ant affinty cards. It also shuts down tron, death's shadow, collected company, storm on the draw, valakut, infect, and a lot of control. It can win games and there's a reason there's a deck built around it. At three of, th chances of drawing are near the best. Four could just give a dead draw.
Slots 6&7: Chalice of the Void also shuts down a lot of the top meta right now. Casting on turn two can land a chalice for 1 and will completely shut down burn, deaths shadow, and storm. While it takes othe the effectiveness of Signal Pest, it's probably getting sided out anyways with how easy both decks can kill it. Outside of that, it stops a ton of removal and counters at that point against Affinity. Ceremonious Rejection? Spell Snare? You know the rest. Again, I know I'm missing a lot of what the card hits. It also pumps the artifact synergy within the deck. Against all these decks Affinity does do well against, so the card is a two of as it will probably win the game against a lot of decks, but you could win without it.
Slot 8: Engineered Explosives may not appear that great, and it's number of slots reflect that; however, it can cripple a deck such as shadow who went all in on the shadow, auras, collected company, tokens, and merfolk. Again, sure I'm missing more. This is more of a good against a general population that can cripple a deck and pumps for artifact synergy. The problem is that the mana cost can be sketchy as you likely are going to only be able to cast it as 1 but two isn't out of the question, and it's a card that you could win without. All of which lead to the card being included but only as a one of.
Slots 9&10: there is no specific card here, rather two graveyard hate. I prefer a split between Graffdigger's Cage and Rest in Peace here as Rest in Peace stops arcbound ravanger, doesn't offer artifact synergy, and doesn't always stop collected company. Graffdigger's Cage doesn't stop delve and Tarmogoyf. Making them two copies wouldn't be bad, but graveyard hate is necessity which both do well in slightly different ways. At two, the chances are higher of drawing the one I see most decks run.
Slots 11&12: Hurkyl's Recall in the mirror, whoever has the most artifact hate will win and recall is a big one that can cause devastating results to Affinity. It also works against many other decks that will grind the game out. These re the two big ones for affinity but aren't the only artifact hate as reflected in slots 12 and 13.
Slots 13: Here's where I run Wear / Tear. Since I already have Hurkyl's Recall, I stray away from ancient grudge here in favor of the anti Stony Silence option the card gives you. It cost the same amount and you still pack deadly hate against the mirror while having the same amount of cards as your opponent will have Stony Silence. Coincidentally, also hits cards like Ensnaring Bridge and other control. Here's where the sideboard becomes more reactive, but doesn't give up consistency. Maybe consider running one more or a copy of Ancient Grudge.
Slots 14&15: the last two slots are a toss up to your local meta in my opinion, and can be two separate cards, however I'd lean towards keeping the two cards the same for consistency if you can. My immediate suggestion is Thoughtseize as it gets rid of key combo cards, creatures, and removal that might hurt your speed or ability. Two would be fine to run with. Outside of two Thoughtseize you can look at additional Etched Champion, a Whipflare, Spell Pierce which I'm not keen on because it requires you to keep mana and slow the deck, Dismember, or Dispatch. I'm a fan of dispatch since it exiles any creature, but I'm not too sold on the latter with Galvanic Blast and Thoughtseize.
Let me know what you think about this sideboard primer of affinity. I'm interested to see the community's response to some of the changes I've made to the sideboard, mainly cutting variety for consistency and power.