As an additional cost to cast Toxic Deluge, pay X life.
All creatures get -X/-X until end of turn.
|Have (2)||metalmagic ,|
|Want (4)||Taufyr , rothalax , illsv , drolsen91|
Printings View all
|Eternal Masters (EMA)||Rare|
|Commander 2013 (C13)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Toxic Deluge occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.2%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.11%
UB (Dimir): 1.0%
WB (Orzhov): 0.46%
WUB (Esper): 0.73%
UBR (Grixis): 0.71%
BUG (Sultai): 0.74%
Toxic Deluge Discussion
12 hours ago
All of the listed cards though are quite good and I would make a decision based on which cards are performing best and which are not performing as well as you need. Personally I think just in the blind it could be Negate.
3 days ago
Reduced the average CMC from 3.10 to 3.03.
5 days ago
In regards to your thoughts about boardwipes, in about every other deck id say run 3-4 board wipes. Sadly as a token deck, you pretty much live and die by your board presence so often boardwipes tend to hurt you the most, so really they should be a last resort, so i wouldnt run more than one or two. In my deck i only run one: Toxic Deluge because its arguably the best board wipe black has, as it ignores indestructible and only costs three mana (my playgroup runs Gaddock Teeg a lot so that three cmc is more important than one would think)... But toxic deluge is also a pricey card so the next best would be black sun zenith
1 week ago
No problem, I personally think all the Vraska are bad for commander and for meren specifically. I call vraska the good old bait planeswalker. A lot of people who make their first golgari commander deck think Vraska is good but then after playing it just never works as well as you want it too.
I used to run dictate of erebos and grave pact but my deck ended up getting enough tutors and reanimate abilties that plaguecrafter and mindless excutioner was good enough to get rid of a lot of creatures. Things like carrier thrall are nice but the issue is you rather actually have sac outlets that do stuff for you or mana dorks because they are a faster way to get mana. Because having something that can turn into a sac outlet and get ya mana can be a bit too slow for meren.
If you want more control consider Contamination. If you want a cool big creature It That Betrays is a nice one, I usually get it out t4 with pattern of rebirth and a sac outlet. turning carrion feeder into a big baddy is really nice.
If you want your deck to become really strong, how I designed mine was mainly a lot of tutors and sac outlets to then pretty much get a combo to win or to get one of my big value creatures and beat people to death to win. then I have some small creatures for removal like rec sage and plaguecrafter. You pretty much want sac outlets, tutors, reanimation, etb or leave the battlefield ability creatures, value creatures, and a win con. whats really nice about meren is that you don't need a lot because if people get rid of your stuff you just bring it back. Meren is the most resilient deck out there. Your three biggest weakness will be Torpor Orb, Stranglehold, and Rest in Peace. the best way to counter all three of those is Caustic Caterpillar so if you know your opponent has one of those always get one in hand in case of emergency.
Im glad I could help, don't forget to check my deck to see some cards I didnt mention and if ya got any more questions feel free to ask.
1 week ago
Sorry it's been a minute but finally getting around to physically upgrading this deck.
I appreciate all of your imput and please don't think it's gone unnoted Here is the list I currently have for replacements
X - Finale of Promise - Idk what to sub...
X - Past in Flames
I know you've spent a lot of time in your previous suggestions, and I really appreciate the effort man Honestly. Would you mind taking a look at what I've come up with and see if there's any room for the X's?
About to put an order in for an upgrade on this. Kessy is going to be my first cEDH deck I wanna upgrade.
1 week ago
Spark Double copies Marchesa for double Dethrone, the 2 copies protect one another, and this copy enters with a counter immediately protecting itself. Press into Service could be the cut.
Toxic Deluge is your best boardwipe in Marchesa. Living Death needs spell recursion to use it over and over.
3 weeks ago
Out of curiosity, why run Toxic Deluge over Dead of Winter with all Snow lands? Would save you some precious life. Only reason I can think of is targeted removal by controlling the magnitude of the -x/-x counters?
3 weeks ago
I appreciate the fairness and honesty.
I think you should find space for Buried Alive, Assassin's Trophy, Sheoldred, Whispering One, Disciple of Bolas, Nature's Lore, Farseek, and Skyshroud Claim. Those are the cards that I think your deck would benefit the most from having.