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Razorverge Thicket enters the battlefield tapped unless you control two or fewer lands.
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Razorverge Thicket Discussion
1 week ago
Yeah, that happens quite often, even in the actual sets. There's an old story that Birds of Paradise's art was originally painted for Volcanic Island. The art didn't fit, so they made a new one for Volcanic Island. They created Birds of Paradise to fit the artwork.
Rampaging Primosaur: I love this idea: in a set that focuses heavily on "abilities matter", the "basic lands matter" ability is right on theme. I would like to see more "basic lands matter", if there's room for them in this set. I dislike excessively mathy cards, and that particular ability seems like too much. Let me suggest a replacement: Name it "Rampaging Imperiosaur", cost it at , and make it a 5/5 with Trample and "Spend only mana produced by basic lands to cast Rampaging Imperiosaur".
Sidenote: The classic Imperiosaur does have an ability, and much to the surprise of new players, is not affected by Muraganda Petroglyphs. This is unfortunate because it would have been a great candidate for reprint. If you use this Imperiosaur ability on other creatures, I would give them another ability so it's unambiguous.
Rapt Hatchling: This is another situation where you're hamstrung by art. This looks more like a sorcery than a 2/2.
Razor-edge Thicket: I first read this as Razorverge Thicket. I love the ability on this card. It could probably be cheaper, because the opponent can just make creatures Primal to avoid it. This brings up the next question: where are all the 2-toughness Flying Primal creatures? A Gatherer search for Core Set 2019, Flying, and Toughness <= 2, gives about 10 creatures.
Rebellious Torcher: Absolutely not. This card would be format-warping: that kind of repetitive land destruction, that early in the game would quickly put people to 0 lands, hoping that there's a Shock and an untapped land in their top 10 cards, or else they lose. Many games would end with that creature as the only permanent on the battlefield.
Saber-Spear Ambusher: This card has an unfortunate interaction, where it can first strike, and then bounce itself before the opponent hits them.
Sacrificial Dirk: It's a costly equip for a Gorgon Flail.
Shielding Heron: That hurts because I really enjoyed Muck Drubb. The ability was made useless once they decided that it can't be used to counter spells for invalid target. You don't want to make a card that's useless before it gets to paper.
Spigot-shell Mollusk: Beautiful art, it's sad that it's being used on a card few people would ever play. Maybe its ability should be free? I'd compare it to Death Cultist.
Spiral-shell Spawner: was mill going to be a theme for blue?
Stutter-spell: Significantly more powerful than Runeboggle. As a general rule, tacking "Draw a card" on to something costs . For the card I mentioned, it's Force Spike. Looks like you're tacking it on to Mana Leak, so the cost should be .
Submerging Shonisaur: I can't be sure, but it's probably too big to have protection, and evasion built in.
Swift Pterodrone: Are they called Pteron, Pterodon, Pteranodon, or Pterodrone? I think I've seen all of them. You and Wizards need to pick one and stick to it.
Territorial Lizodon: It seems too cheap to have the option to be a Canal Monitor. Should probably cost 5?
Vaerin Infantry: Seems weak. Can it be pumped to a 2/1? or 2/2?
Wantan Disaster: Check your spelling.
Xenophobia: The ability "Protection" has been deprecated. And if it wasn't, this would be crazy powerful in this set, as creatures with no abilities already have few redeeming qualities. This card needs a complete redesign.
2 weeks ago
Four color and budget don't mix well. Lands are expensive.
Unfortunately, goodstuff in general is expensive because the goodstuff cards are, well, good, so there's a lot of demand for them; hence, they tend to be expensive. Stuff like Snapcaster Mage and Tarmogoyf.
If this is the style of deck you mean then the situation isn't too dire. The core cards (felidar, Saheeli, evolution) aren't absurdly expensive.
It's still a tier 3 deck, but if this tier 3 deck makes you happy then you should still be able to 2-2 or 3-1 semi-competitive FNM, provided you're at least an okay player.
Unfortunately, there isn't a way to make 4 color work on a budget. What about playing Kiki-Chord instead? Very similar style, but you can get away with a budget mana base. Replace the Noble Hierarchs with, say, Avacyn's Pilgrim, or some other dork.
Razorverge Thicket and Copperline Gorge are cheaper than fetches and shocks. A combination of basics and Sunpetal Grove and Rootbound Crag would be a little cheaper but less consistent. Karplusan Forest and Brushland are also options, but painful.
I think you could build a budget version for $300 without too many sacrifices. The mana would be shakey, but that's something you can upgrade over time.
2 weeks ago
I definitely think the mana dorks are worth it. The reason WB tokens ran black (apart from Lingering Souls flashback is because it could give you interaction early like Thoughtseize, Inquisition of Kozilek and more recently Fatal Push. The mana dorks mean that you can race out your spells early and having multiple isn't the worst thing in the world since you have so many mana dumps like March of the Multitudes and Entreat the Angels makes even drawing a dork midgame to be fine. A deck like this can have a lot of random early game creatures because it has a lot of powerful topdecks to offset the bad ones. I'd be hesitant to go 8+ though because then it can get the elves problem of having a lot of mana and then nothing to do with it.
Also with your mana base, I'd add some number of Razorverge Thicket as a painless source of your colours. I've played enough decks with Cryptic Command to know that these lands coming it play tapped passed turn four can be brutal but a painless source of both your colours is excellent. I'd also go down to one forest as you want as much white as possible for Spectral Procession and outside of Nissa you only need a single green source (not to mention there is a lot more white in your deck that green).
1 month ago
Really, it would be around tier 4 this build. I imagine a better version going with a more consistent stax plan that happens to run a few key enchantments, instead of this could even be tier 2.5, but the commander would be all but a major part of the deck.
If you want a real enchantment-based build, use Earthcraft and Squirrel Nest, drop the Enchanted Evening/Aura Thief, Starfield of Nyx, Sigil of the Empty Throne, and Solemnity/Phyrexian Unlife/Solemnity/Decree of Silence. You should run Altar of the Brood as support for both the earthcraft combo and Opalescence/Parallax Wave.
The other drops you should have are cards like Cultivate and Kodama's Reach, because they are bad cards and shouldn't be run in any non-landfall deck, Cleansing Meditation because it is bad, and Skyshroud Claim. Pendrell Mists is too much mana for this deck to handle, as is Omniscience, despite its power in some decks.
Leyline of Anticipation is weak for its mana cost, and is abd draw, only semi useful when in openning hand, but even then it isn't great.
Land Tax is a bad card, honestly unless you are monowhite or in a deck that benefits from discarding cards, it isn't worth it. The thinning is the best it does, and a card in your deck that thins only is trash. If it is used to help you hit land drops, your deck is either A: Not in need of land, or B: Awfully built or was mulliganned poorly.
Now the next part is on what to add. I talked about dropping around 27 cards, so there is some room. I would drop around 3 lands at least as well, which leaves us with a clean 30 cards to add.
Now, we'll add the cards I previously talked about, Altar of the Brood, Earthcraft, and Squirrel Nest. These help you win the game after we dropped a lot of your previous wincons. Greater Auramancy is also a card I prior suggested, and helps stop a Nature's Claim kill you. 26 cards left to go.
The next is to replace the lands we dropped. You want mana fast, so you can empty your hand, and use Tuvasa to draw more cards, aiming to hit a real enchantress or tutor for one. This means two things, more tutors, and more ramp.
Wild Growth, Utopia Sprawl, Overgrowth, and Fertile Ground help benefit Earthcraft when used to make more mana on combo turn, especially with an Opalescence out. Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Sol Ring, Chrome Mox, Mox Diamond, and Lotus Petal allow the deck to get more mana faster as well. This leaves 16 cards.
Teferi's Protection, Swan Song, Flusterstorm, Seal Away, Ravages of War, Force of Will, Nature's Claim, Armageddon, and Cast Out are efficient pieces of interaction I would suggest. This leaves 4 cards.
Nature's Chosen is a card I have found success in, and suggest you try it too. Enchanting a Tuvasa makes it another land in essence, and can untap a Serra's Sanctum, it is under the radar, so pick it up before all of the Emmara, Soul of the Accord players find out about it. That is it!
After looking through, the following lands are must drops, as they aren't good in nearly any deck:
They don't have a place in this deck.
Similarly, you should optimize your deck to get your colors more on curve, fetchlands being a major part of that. Wooded Foothills, Flooded Strand, Polluted Delta, Misty Rainforest, Scalding Tarn, Verdant Catacombs, Arid Mesa, and Marsh Flats are the missing ones in your colors. You can use them to fetch the shock/dual lands for colors, or basics for Back to Basics/Earthcraft.
Wooded Bastion, Flooded Grove, and Yavimaya Hollow should be dropped as well to fit them, as well as Brushland for Razorverge Thicket, Adarkar Wastes for City of Brass, Hinterland Harbor for Mana Confluence, Glacial Fortress for Exotic Orchard, and one of each basic because you have too many lands.
That's it. That would actually be a tier 3 enchantress deck, and doesn't stoop to just playing Tuvasa for colors for a stax-combo deck, running no enchantments.
1 month ago
I would recommend having alot less fast lands in the deck. I personally never run more than 4 fast lands in a whole deck. Switch out some Concealed Courtyard's and Razorverge Thicket's with some more shocks like Temple Garden and even some more fetches.
2 months ago
Nice. I think it'd be in your best interest to keep the 4x Mimic in, but if you need to cut 2x for the last tusker and baloth I don't think it'll absolutely cripple the deck or anything like that. Keeping the budget in mind, you might look at Canopy Vista and Cinder Glade instead of Blossoming Sands and Rugged Highlands. They have the ability to come in untapped turn 3 to drop a Baloth or Thoctar, and they're both under $3. A step up from those would be the fastlands (Copperline Gorge and Razorverge Thicket) but that would obviously bring you past your $100 budget. It's a nice upgrade to consider for the future though, since they're better but not as expensive as Cavern of Souls
2 months ago
Razorverge Thicket is good one. You could swap some basics for a playset.
Brylon on Shalai EDH
2 months ago
Making some updates to address some of the concerns I have with the early version of this deck:
(no need to have an extreme mana base with this early of a deck version. Expect mana base to continue to change)
(no ETB )
(no ETB, cost reduction on turn 5 not powerful enough)
(expensive value negated by real ramp)
(too expensive for a 2 color deck)