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|Masterpiece Series: Amonkhet Invocations (AKHMPS)||Mythic Rare|
|Modern Masters 2017 Edition (MM3)||Rare|
|Planar Chaos (PLC)||Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||Rare|
|Promo set for Gatherer (PSG)||Rare|
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Destroy all creatures. They can't be regenerated.
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1 week ago
- Current boardstate and meta.
You may have the PERFECT answer in your deck, whether you know because you fine-tuned the deck and played it dozens of times, or because you are savvy enough of a player to actually read your damn cards, but that doesn't mean the answer is good for that particular situation.
You need to often times account for the entire board and what the other players are running, not just a single threat.
Yes, very much so is it the case where a single presence of something is the problem. For example, an The Ur-Dragon with Lightning Greaves is obviously just going to run away with the entire damn game.
But... they get a land out of it. And this land will give them enough mana to recast The Ur-Dragon . So, even if you do manage to kill that big bastard, it just comes back out next turn. Is it really worth spending three spells (Tutor + Assassin's Trophy + kill spell) just to temporarily remove a threat for a single turn? Probably not.
Well. This works as a response. Okay, so maybe you should tuck it into your hand and wait. But is it really that good? Everybody gets their cards back into their hand, sure. But that does just mean they can recast everything. But your other opponent is running an Avenger of Zendikar and they have out like a bajillion lands. That's not going to be very helpful. Plus, do you really want your opponent with the Ur-Dragon to go off a turn or two later by playing a ton of Dragons and getting more value out of them? Cyclonic Rift is only a bandaid. Players often rebuild in a single turn, sometimes two turns.
It doesn't resolve the issue of the Lightning Greaves . Your opponent will just recast their Ur-Dragon and re-equip it. That puts you directly back at square-one, only now you have wasted both a tutor and a Cyclonic Rift . Hm.
Wait a second... You found a Altered Ego . Now THAT is interesting! Why not make a copy of your own Ur-Dragon?! The threat of mutual destruction is enough to prevent your opponent from attacking into you. This, in turn, protects you from this massive threat. It also provides you political leverage.
- The Ur-Dragon player can't attack, lest they open themselves up to retaliation
- Nobody else wants to attack into either of you two and draw your ire
- You can make deals; "I won't attack, IF---"
But... maybe your table has shown they aren't keen on politics? Maybe your table is full of players who just endlessly slug it out. To them, politics are for players in losing positions; They'd rather just win on their own.
... fuck it. Damnation it is. Reset the entire game.
There are many answers. The real question is; "Which is the CORRECT one?"
1 week ago
Gaze of Granite could be a solid board wipe.
Dauthi Embrace seems fun!
1 week ago
Devotion requires a separate build, and would prolly need a commander that supports it like Erebos.
Otherwise I think I can build up a few pieces.
The main goal is to ramp, then drop a lock on the field with a wincon in SKittles. The issue is while Skittles is fast, it really needs a +1/+1 counter or a sword on it to get a whole turn faster at killing anyone.
I think Phyrexian Scriptures is perhaps worth it, since it lets us get that counter, is mass removal that saves our commander, AND it is mass exile, all for the price of Damnation , but I just dislike Damnation since it doesn't allow regeneration for our commander.
I am testing a bunch of cards like this.
2 weeks ago
@PoleJumpAway - that's a good point, but i have more than enough ramp cards to compensate for it.. It should be fine, but i'll keep my eye out if the lands is too little as i playtest this deck more.. thanks!
@XOXOmagic - I don't know about Butcher of Malakir , it has higher cmc than i would have liked.. But the Vindictive Vampire is possible to be included.. It's a slightly less efficient Blood Artist .. so, Thanks for the input!
@Afromancer55 - aside from Toxic Deluge and Damnation , most mass removals for golgari has high cmc! Although this deck currently has a lot of ramp, so it might not be as bad as I'm thinking.. I'll consider those options, thanks!
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
Dash Hopes and Mana Tithe were both printed in Planar Chaos - a set that was focused on breaking the color pie (also: Damnation ). RG has no business having a hard counter. That said, I love Guttural Response . Countering a cryptic with that is just ... oh so good lol
3 weeks ago
I have noticed that the majority of EDH deck that contain the color red contain Blasphemous Act , and I am wondering why that is.
Is that card popular because it is so powerful? Is it because that is the closest equivalent that red has to Wrath of God and/or Damnation ? What does everyone else say about this? Why is Blasphemous Act so popular in EDH?
3 weeks ago
As others have said, you should be in good shape. Mono Black can be very easy to run on budget, excellent at creature removal, and can find ways to out tempo ramp decks.
I wouldn't worry about blocking ramp as much as I would focus on creating it in your own way. Along the lines Dark Ritual or Artifacts. Cabal Stronghold is the budget alternative to Cabal Coffers . Crypt Ghast might be slightly out of budget, but does the job of Nirkana Revenant somewhat cheaper. I'm a huge fan of Life's Finale , which is criminally underplayed and pretty budget, especially in a meta that isn't in their own graveyards too much. It's always good to have a boardwipe or 2 on deck, but I find mono black can get quite a lot done with spot removal, and that is far easier on a budget. You already have Damnation when you need it. Black Sun's Zenith is also an option because you can proliferate the counters later. Lashwrithe and/or Nightmare Lash are good and not expensive. Disciple of the Vault is again criminally underplayed if you want to go that route. Get yourself some cheap tutors cause thats Black's go to. Diabolic Tutor , Scheming Symmetry , Beseech the Queen are the best budget options. Card draw is a must, and you get Sign in Blood , Read the Bones , and a host of other cheap draw spells to go along with you Phyrexian Arena .
And I hate to be that guy, but infect is pretty budget, on theme, and works wonders even if you just splash it as a win con. Tainted Strike Plague Myr Ichor Rats . You can then use your Commander to pay and discard a card a few times to win.
Black has a ton of options even on a budget. Just depends which way you want to go.
Damnation occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.08%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.09%
UB (Dimir): 1.11%
UBR (Grixis): 0.55%