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Artifact Creature — Construct
Whenever Scrap Trawler or another artifact you control is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, return to your hand target artifact card in your graveyard with lesser converted mana cost.
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Scrap Trawler Discussion
5 days ago
Thanks for the suggestion. Sword of the Animist is dominant in this format,
As of just checking now, I'm 0.08 under budget. Sword of the Animist is $2.81, so would need to cut (if I do 1 for 1 instead of downgrading a bunch of other cards), $2.81 - $0.08 = $2.73. Graveborn Muse, Noxious Gearhulk, or Mindslaver are the only possible cuts.
I would probably cut the Scrap Trawler $1.62 or Go for the Throat $1.55 = $3.17 - $2.73 = $0.44 to replace 2 cards. Price of Fame is $0.25, leaving $0.19, which could be Costly Plunder $0.15 or Acidic Slime $0.24 (puts me a bit over).
I was also hoping to get a Hex Parasite in here, but he's $1.76 a little pricey, might need to get both these in. Also have Wanderer's Twig, Traveler's Amulet, or Golgari Keyrune could look at for cheaper ramp, but not as dominant as the Sword of the Animist.
1 week ago
Vukodlak: I am glad that you enjoyed it.
I ran Memory Jar for quite a while but and it is a decent option but never seemed to line up quite right. Most of the time I cast it, I had to wait a turn to use it or else I would just be ditching cards that I did not want to discard (this deck has a lot of high CMC cards) and if I had to wait the extra turn, people would keep up mana to stop what I was doing when I used it or would just destroy it before I got to do anything with it. It was almost always a better option to just cast more ramp and play Kozilek. Or if Kozilek was already in play, sacrifice and recast him. I may try it again one day, but for now I am not that big of a fan.
Dreamstone Hedron is one of the best mana rock in the deck as it gives a ton of mana on Paradox Engine turns and can be sacrificed for 3 cards if you have mana and nothing to do with it. Getting to 10 mana is very important for the deck and that gap right before you get to 10 is one of the only times that the deck is actually vulnerable so I doubt that I will ever cut this card.
The same issue that originally kept me from using Scroll Rack still persists: I don't have a lot of ways to shuffle my library. If I could ditch 6 cards, crack a fetch land and not have to redraw them, I would absolutely run it but it was not relevant enough often enough for me to want it so I cut it.
I actually just explained a few comments ago why I think that Haunted Cloak still deserves it's inclusion but that can be an easy meta call if you don't end up wanting to run it.
Inspiring Statuary is a card that I would still run even in a meta with no Stony Silence/Null Rod effects. Not only is it the best card in the deck if someone is running the aforementioned cards, but it is very useful to be able to turn a lot of the random artifacts that just sit around into mana rocks. And if the deck plays anything for you like it has for me, you can expect to see a lot more artifact hate in your meta in the near future. Cast an Eldrazi titan on turn 3 a couple of times and people will start to notice and adapt.
As for Junk Diver/Scrap Trawler, it is a bit of a meta call. This list is supposed to be the highest possible power level that the deck can reasonably achieve, hence the ridiculous price tag. The extra recursion is fine but not often relevant in cEDH unless you were planning on using them for combo purposes and this deck runs a lot of graveyard hate so I try to avoid combo pieces that don't do much if you aren't using them to combo as it is fully possible that they will get exiled by Relic of Progenitus or Scavenger Grounds rendering them useless. Kozilek's shuffle effect can make a lot of random cards in the deck into a win condition when looped so it is very rarely necessary for the extra recursion anyway.
I hope this was helpful. Sorry for the late response, I have been busy with finals.
1 week ago
Vman, sweet, short, and to the point. I would be unimpressed most of the time, but I am impressed now, as it apparently really difficult for most people to allow others to do as they want.
Flooremoji. I would beg to differ. I like when an opponent Ruination's my 5 color combo list helmed by the Najeela. I may lose, but I don't mind it, because it is the appropriate answer to the decks in my meta with 3+ colors most of the time. That player won after the Ruination, with twelve turns of lock pieces like Static Orb, Thorn of Amethyst and I think a Tangle Wire or Smokestack, I don't remember which.
Point is, though the other two players hated it, I respect the deck trying to win with Kiki-Jiki, a lackluster commander at a more competitive table. This was a nice play, and while it may slow a game, and not be fun for some players, the same is for losing.
I like getting thoughtseized, killed by infect, getting my lands destroyed, and I really love watching KCI go off (I actually don't like the old Faith's Reward lists, much more a fan of the newer Scrap Trawler decks... they are great!).
Why do I like these things? Well, to start if I lose to infect, it is either in EDH and is hilarious, or is in modern (legacy infect is a meme, not a deck BTW) and I should be holding removal or countermagic or some answer. Otherwise I go to sideboard and probably have the wins the next two games.
Thoughtseize is a skill intensive card that is a staple in Legacy and Modern and even some EDH lists. It is a powerhouse, but needs to be played properly against. In modern, I find that against the decks that play it, it turn one isn't much better than a Inquisition unless they are Death's Shadow. I don't play tron or anything with big cards too often, so I don't find that the two life loss is huge. Against my burn list, it isn't even that good.
Krark-Clan Ironworks decks are just amazing, all their little bobs and bits turning like a mad scientist. They are kind of hilarious, and you can just concede if you don't want to watch them. No one is stopping you, and as soon as they have cast like ~5 cards, they can't really fizzle often enough to matter. Sweet deck IMO. Played it myself for a while, after Scrap Trawler was released with Aether Revolt.
2 weeks ago
Hey welcome to EDH!
For Glissa she is an interesting commander as she is generically artifact based. To use her at the helm of the deck and the route you want to go, you should use a lot of synergistic cards that you can combine her with. Here is a budget list of cards that are synergistic and can match with Glissa.
- Executioner's Capsule
- Nihil Spellbomb
- Scrap Trawler
- Vault of Whispers
- Tree of Tales
- Trading Post
- Wayfarer's Bauble
- Burnished Hart
- Marionette Master
- Myr Retriever
- Shimmer Myr
There are plenty of ways to build Glissa. But here are some simple deck building tips. This is very general outline.
- What is your goal/win condition?
- Select cards that can help you achieve your goal/win condition.
- Add in cards to support or interact with the board.
Aside from that you can follow the 8x8 rule, which is starting with 35 lands and adding 8x of a card category i.e, Artifacts, Creatures, Instants, Sorcery, Enchantment, etc.
Hope that helps!
2 weeks ago
I primarily just wanted to say thank you for posting and maintaining this list. I really enjoyed reading it and I am going to go with Kozilek over Karn now for my colorless EDH commander as a result of your primer!
I am curious: what do you think of Memory Jar here? Seems like it could be a great way to pump out additional ramp while disrupting your opponent's in the process, and could potentially do more work than Dreamstone Hedron here.
Also, you mentioned in an old comment that you wanted to test out Scroll Rack but couldn't think of what to cut. Have you revisited this? Seems like it would be better than Haunted Cloak at first glance, or possibly even Inspiring Statuary depending on how often you are seeing cards like Stony Silence/Null Rod (maybe your meta has warped around your Kozilek deck and so these are way more prevalent, but in my playgroup, I seem to be the only person who knows about these cards!). Thoughts?
Final question: I tend to try and build with some recursion as a backup plan, but I see you don't include cards like Junk Diver/Scrap Trawler and their ilk despite the high volume of artifacts. Is this due to Kozilek's reshuffle ability or are your games just too fast to warrant their inclusion?
2 weeks ago
I do like this list, however find the mainboard Silences out of balance for the list.
2 weeks ago
Looking at the price tag I am assuming that for this deck your not really on a budget. Since your plan by what it seems is to abuse Daretti's ability I would recommend a sub theme of stax into your deck list. The reason being is to prevent your opponents from being allowed to do anything while you protect yourself.
Here might be some cards that can be considered:
Ward of Bones, Mana Vault, Metalworker, Goblin Welder, Scrap Mastery, Memory Jar, Scrap Mastery, Alhammarret's Archive, Crucible of Worlds, smokestacks, Nevinyrral's Disk, Scrap Trawler, Winter Orb, Mindslaver, Mana Web, Static Orb, Tangle Wire, Torpor Orb
There are quite a bit, if ya need help refining let me know! Hope this helps!
3 weeks ago
If soomeone uses a Krark-Clan Ironworks ability with a Myr Retriever or Scrap Trawler to take a card I'm targeting with Extirpate out of the graveyard, does my spell fizzle? I still targeted the card even if it moves zones after the fact.