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Artifact Creature — Construct
Hangarback Walker enters the battlefield with X +1/+1 counters on it.
When Hangarback Walker dies, create a 1/1 colorless Thopter artifact creature token with flying for each +1/+1 counter on Hangarback Walker.
, : Put a +1/+1 counter on Hangarback Walker.
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Hangarback Walker Discussion
10 hours ago
Metallic Mimic , Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit , & Grateful Apparition seem to pair up well with each other. Tezzeret's Gambit fits with them as well. Venser, the Sojourner seems like a possible fit, too, though his CMC isn't ideal. I'm guessing you'd get more mileage out of Dovin, Grand Arbiter . Unclaimed Territory or Ancient Ziggurat seem like possible land additions.
Sideboard ideas: Blessed Alliance , Nevermore , Revoke Existence (super against stuff like Hangarback Walker , etc) Ratchet Bomb , Pithing Needle , Elixir of Immortality , Shalai, Voice of Plenty and Teyo, the Shieldmage are cheaper than Leyline of Sanctity , Celestial Purge
1 day ago
Well, looking at it, almost every card has an enormously weaker budget option:
- 4x Walking Ballista / Triskelion
- 4x Arcbound Worker / Sparring Construct
- 4x Arcbound Ravager / Arcbound Slith
- 2x Dark Confidant / Pain Seer
- 4x Hangarback Walker / Hooded Hydra
- 4x Steel Overseer / Chronomaton
- 3x Welding Jar / Herbal Poultice
- 1x Animation Module
- 4x Darksteel Citadel
- 4x Forest
- 4x Inkmoth Nexus / Dread Statuary
- 2x Overgrown Tomb / Foul Orchard
- 1x Pendelhaven / Hashep Oasis
- 1x Phyrexia's Core / Claws of Gix
- 3x Wooded Foothills / Evolving Wilds
The deck would suck enormously, but it would be a deck. Are there any better budget options I missed?
1 day ago
The first card that came to my mind was Mycoloth , but you've added your list since I first saw this post and I see you've already got it. Good stuff!
Triskelavus is a bit costly mana-wise, but could be a good inclusion. Not only does it enter with its own counters, it also allows you to remove +1/+1 counters on it to create tokens that a) have flying, b) are artifacts (so have the extra synergy you're hoping for), and c) have a built-in sacrifice ability, which could come in handy.
Have you considered Avenger of Zendikar ? It has potential to give a lot of bodies up front, and puts +1/+1 counters on each of them for every landfall after. Might be a little too much work since you're not trying to max out landfall, but perhaps it'd be of use.
This might not be the right place to put Nacatl War-Pride , as triple green may be too much for a three color deck, but it's a card I think has great potential for commander. Every time it attacks you have a possible swarm of tokens at your disposal (depending on your opponents, of course), and since they aren't exiled until end of turn, you've time to sacrifice them for profit. Reyhan won't help on death unless you get counters on them (which you very well may), but with Death's Presence every token sac'ed gives three (or more) counters to play with.
I have Hooded Hydra in one of my edh decks (either Ghave, Guru of Spores or Thromok the Insatiable , but I forget which at the moment), and both decks play on similar themes to yours. The hydra gives tokens on death equal to the number of +1/+1 counters on it, which I think makes it ideal as a payoff card because it can leave you with board presence should it be killed. With that said, Hangarback Walker fills a similar role, requires no colored mana to use, and gives flying artifacts, so adding the hydra probably isn't necessary unless you want the redundancy.
Noosegraf Mob enters with +1/+1 counters and spits out a token when any player casts a spell, at the cost of one counter per instance. With your ability to put counters on it, perhaps it would be a good reusable source of token fodder.
Blade of Selves would be an interesting inclusion, allowing for multiple Winding Constrictor s in a turn, for example. Any sacrificing shenanigans would have to happen before end of combat, when the tokens are exiled, but the tokens themselves can be sacrificed for profit. The downside here is that you couldn't copy legendary creatures (such as Reyhan). Helm of the Host gets around the legendary restriction, and the tokens get to stick around, but at a much higher mana cost and slower rate of production.
A handful of artifacts that might be useful, especially with the proliferate you have, are Trigon of Infestation , Golem Foundry , and Titan Forge . Of these, I think the forge would be your best bet. Foundry requires casting artifacts to get your initial charge counter, and I don't think you've enough in your deck to count on that. Trigon enters with three counters initially, and can add more, but requires colored mana to activate for more counters, has a mana cost to produce the tokens, and the tokens aren't artifacts. Forge doesn't start with any counters, but only needs generic mana to add a charge and spits out 9/9(!)s, which can benefit from Steel Overseer .
My last suggestion doesn't create tokens, but is a card I've found useful for abusing +1/+1 counter multipliers ( Doubling Season specifically, in my case, but it would work with those in your deck just as well). Power Conduit allows you to remove a counter from a creature to put two (or three or so on) back, or onto another creature. I've also used it to "save" a +1/+1 counter from a creature that's been destroyed when no other creatures are on my field, storing it as a charge counter on the conduit itself until I have another creature to buff. It's limited to a single use per turn cycle, though, unless you can somehow untap it.
Sorry I've taken so long to post this. I read the question and started on my reply the day it was first posted, but have had to squeeze it in bit by bit on my limited chunks of free time. It doesn't help me much that I'm doing this all on a phone; both the research and reply would probably have been done a lot faster were I using an actual keyboard, lol. Not sure if any of this will help you, but they were things I might consider were I trying to build this sort of deck.
5 days ago
Song of the Dryads has helped me with various nuisance commanders.
Hangarback Walker just feels right in this deck. At most stages of the game, I am never unhappy to see it.
5 days ago
Hangarback Walker will make a bunch of artifact tokens on death.
Sai, Master Thopterist will get you a Thopter each time you cast an artifact spell.
6 days ago
Kjartan I see what you mean for most of your points, but I'm also a bit confused on them too. Firstly, you say it doesn't need to be fast, just fast enough. I sort of see what you mean because it does need some setting up to work, but what kind of synergy am I looking for? Is the idea of using Hangarback Walker and Walking Ballista a part of that? What kind of mechanics would make this fast enough? Secondly, Vexing Devil . I don't understand and how the card doesn't fit or what makes it something to be on the fence about. Ultimately, this deck damages my opponents down, atleast the way I'm starting to understand it. Devil does this, and like you said, it pairs fairly well with Hidden Stockpile . I guess I don't see where your doubts on it are coming from. And lastly, Chromatic Sphere vs Chromatic Star . They basically do the same thing, except star needs to ping the graveyard, which from how I see it, is slightly less reliable. So why suggest it? And I was also curious of your thoughts on Impact Tremors . It works with stockpile, but I wasn't sure about it as I'm not going to be running creatures reliably, atleast as the deck sits now and as I understand it. So I'm on the fence about it, but is there a different perspective on it all that I should see? And should I keep the average cmc at about 3, where it currently is?
6 days ago
If a card with in the cost isn't being cast as a spell then X defaults to 0. In your example, Hangarback Walker has a converted mana cost of 0 and Genesis Wave will put it onto the battlefield with 0 counters. Green Sun's Zenith has a converted mana cost of 1, but Genesis Wave will just put it into the graveyard since it's not a permanent.
6 days ago
Hangarback Walker occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.08%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.04%