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|Want (7)||Obsydyn , Meanee , xepherian , Kezoqu , Tezlik , chandraisbi , Rabu|
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|Duel Decks: Elves vs. Inventors (DDU)||None|
|Magic Origins (ORI)||Rare|
|Magic 2015 (M15)||Rare|
|Tenth Edition (10E)||Rare|
|Ninth Edition (9ED)||Rare|
|Ninth Edition Foreign Black Border (9EDFBB)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Shivan Reef occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.14%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.08%
UR (Izzet): 1.77%
RUG (Temur): 2.46%
UBR (Grixis): 0.87%
Shivan Reef Discussion
17 hours ago
Hey, good budget version of Niv.
Ophidian Eye is another combo enchantment to enchant Niv with. Consider cutting Curse of the Bloody Tome for Eye? With the difficult color casting cost of Niv and the less than ideal color fixing in the manabase consider Chromatic Lantern? To stay within the budget consider cutting That Which Was Taken for Lantern?
To help with color fixing in the manabase there's some budget lands to consider adding. Sulfur Falls, Shivan Reef, Wandering Fumarole, Ash Barrens, Grixis Panorama. These lands can help game play a lot more than $9 Caged Sun can. To stay within budget consider cutting Sun for these lands?
Evolve is not a very good mechanic in Commander because you want to consistently cast an Evolve creature early game to evolve as you cast other creatures. Consistently you're not going to have an Evolve creature to cast early and playing one mid/late game is not doing much. Evolve is a mechanic that benefits much with having 4x of same creatures in a deck which is not Commander. Consider cutting some creatures for a few more draw spells? Brainstorm, Opt, Frantic Search, Faithless Looting are budget good draw spells. Consider cutting Cloudfin Raptor, Simic Fluxmage, Petrahydrox, Ral's Staticaster for these draw spells?
Izzet colors at a budget are at a disadvantage for tutors, but there's some good cards that can copy an opponents tutor when cast letting you also tutor. Expansion / Explosion, Reverberate, Dualcaster Mage. These spells could also copy your own spell when you cast it. Consider cutting Wave of Indifference, Sundering Stroke and Reckless Air Strike for these copy spells? Talisman of Creativity and Izzet Signet are good budget two drop mana rocks. They could replace Heraldic Banner and Spinning Wheel.
In Commander you have access to good budget counterspells that don't have a restriction: Counterspell, Wizard's Retort, Arcane Denial. These counterspells could replace Scatter Arc, No Escape, Mystical Dispute.
I offer more advice. Good luck with your deck.
1 week ago
I mean, the easiest way to improve the deck as I see it is to improve the mana situation, both in the lands and in the rocks. For the lands, I suggest cutting one or two, since if you play more rocks (see below) you'll play faster and still have all the mana you need. Fetch lands (like Scalding Tarn or Windswept Heath ) are the easiest way to improve your mana consistency, but unfortunately they tend to be prohibitively expensive. I suggest running more duals like Shivan Reef , Battlefield Forge , Sea of Clouds , etc. instead of your ETB tapped lands like Mystic Monastery .
With regards to rocks, you're already running two of the best ones ( Sol Ring and Arcane Signet ). However, I've never liked 3-mana mana-rocks like Chromatic Lantern or Jeskai Banner , since in my experience things like Talisman of Progress , Talisman of Creativity , Fellwar Stone etc. are simply better. I'd advise increasing the number of cheap (CMC<=2) mana rocks in your deck, as well as cutting one or two basic lands for the same number of cheap rocks. This'll both speed up your deck in the first few turns AND increase the number of hits you get from your general's attack trigger.
Speaking of the attack trigger, consider Strionic Resonator . I play it in my Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger deck, and I've found it to be a pretty good way to press an advantage. Being able to see 8 cards rather than 4 with Narset, Enlightened Master 's trigger seems pretty good.
Depending on your personal theory of ethics, you may wish to consider mass land destruction (MLD) as another method of winning. I personally have no problem with it, but some people might not like it. Anyway, if you want to go that route you should run Armageddon , Cataclysm and (potentially since it's about $100) Ravages of War . Note that Jokulhaups doesn't really work, since it'll kill your general, too.
Wear / Tear is, I think, an auto-include in any deck including Boros colors. It's an extremely efficient method of spot removal.
I've always loved Dack Fayden in EDH. He steals rocks, loots you to where you need to be, and only costs three mana... If you have access to him, I highly advise including him.
Preordain is a good cantrip on par with your Brainstorm and Ponder . While it is admittedly less powerful when it comes to leaving a card you want to cast with Narset on top of your library (since you'd have to scry both to the top), it is a powerful enough turn 1 play that I think you should run it anyway. I have frequently found one-land hands keepable on account of cantrips, and running Preordain will make it that much more likely for you to hit a good opening 7.
The last card I want to mention is Proteus Staff . If you cut all the creatures in your deck except your general (which I honestly think you should strongly consider doing), you can use Proteus Staff to reorder your entire deck. The way it works is this: second main phase, after you've attacked with Narset, Enlightened Master and (hopefully) gotten an extra turn coming to you, you target Narset with the staff's ability. That tucks her to the bottom of your deck, but then immediately finds her again and puts her into play (since she's the only creature in your deck). Because Proteus Staff says to put the other revealed cards on the bottom of your library IN ANY ORDER, you can then put all the other cards in your deck in any order you wish (since your whole deck has been revealed). That means you can stick 4 extra turn spells on top, cast them during your extra turn, rinse and repeat.
Good luck! Hope this helps.
4 weeks ago
1 month ago
Use pain lands in your mana base, unfortunately I dont believe the gruul pain land; Karplusan Forest is legal in pioneer but, Shivan Reef will give you red and colorles, Yavimaya Coast will give you green and colorless, so on. Since oath of the gatewatch they have been retconned to give you colorless mana not just generic. Also look to play Eldrazi Mimic , seems to be good in aggro Eldrazi decks. Hope it helps :)
2 months ago
I do not know if Shivan Reef is worth it, with how many aggro/burn decks in the meta. I think running Shocks/Fast lands ( Spirebluff Canal ) and the rest basics might be a better choice. Mabey two Sulfur Falls if you’re having problems with colored mana.
2 months ago
Hey, you're welcome. Been a while since I commented on your deck. I like the changes you've made. You've learned a lot in 9 months. The differences are huge, good job. Are you consistently winning?
I think your deck can use streamlining. What I see is lots of high mana cost redundancy which you don't need because it's making the avg. CMC very high, rounded up 4.0. It's high because there's too many high mana cost cards. Consider cutting several for low mana cost cards that draw? Remember you have your high mana cost card that you want to cast, it's sitting in the Command Zone.
Streamlining means cutting unnecessary cards such as Arcanis the Omnipotent , Venser's Journal , Time Stretch and Warstorm Surge . Arcanis is not needed because you have Consecrated Sphinx and Niv-Mizzet, Parun ; both will draw many more cards, even the turn you play them and are flying threats. Having three six drop flying threats is enough. Journal is high mana cost no max hand size effect which is not needed when you have three other low mana cost cards that are better that give you this effect. You have Time Warp and Beacon of Tomorrows so you don't also need to play Stretch since Stretch is 10 mana. Both Impact Tremors and Purphoros, God of the Forge are better than Surge and Surge is six mana.
Another part of your deck that could use some improvements is the manabase. 26x basic lands is a lot and you don't have to play so many because there's even budget playable lands you could add. I'll suggest budget lands and some nonbudget ones:
- Shivan Reef
- Ash Barrens
- Grixis Panorama
- Mystic Sanctuary
- Cephalid Coliseum
- Castle Vantress
- Fiery Islet
- City of Brass
- Reflecting Pool
Other cards to consider adding:
- Narset, Parter of Veils : busted with wheels because your opponents discard their hands and don't get to draw, only you draw.
- Trinket Mage : tutor for Skullclamp, Sol, or Leng. Gets you a win condition, ramp or no max hand size.
- Mystic Remora : one drop, one of the best sources of repeatable draw in multiplayer Commander.
- Brainstorm : one drop, draw three.
- Ponder : one drop draw.
- Preordain : one drop draw.
- Faithless Looting : one drop, draw two, flashback good with wheels.
- Winds of Change : one drop wheel.
- Treasure Cruise : delve is good with wheels, one drop, draw three.
- Molten Psyche : wheel.
- Arcane Signet
- Talisman of Creativity
- Shared Animosity : repeatable pump the power of all attacking Insects.
- Bident of Thassa : repeatable draw, draw a card for each Insect that does damage to a player.
- Narset's Reversal
- Chain of Vapor
- Chaos Warp
- Mystic Retrieval : flashback good with wheels.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Temple of the False God: can't tap for mana until you have five lands in play.
- Venser's Journal
- Arcanis the Omnipotent
- Time Stretch
- Warstorm Surge
- Mana Flare
- Jushi Apprentice / Tomoya the Revealer
- Psychic Spiral
- Windreader Sphinx
- Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur
- Gilded Lotus
- Darksteel Ingot
- Keep Watch
- Enter the Infinite
- Thought Reflection
- Fateful Showdown
2 months ago
Loved UR prowess when it was in standard, and to start you have too many creatures and lands. 16 creatures and 18 lands I found to be efficient at the time using cantrips such as Slip Through Space and Expedite .
So I looked through some pioneer legal UR stuff and here's what I came up with:
Baral, Chief of Compliance was a neat find, lowering the cost of your spells, and turning any counterspell into a cantrip. This I think would allow you to run more counters to protect your creatures while keeping cards in hand. I think I'd go with 2-3 copies because Legendary if you do. Extras can be discarded with spells or abilities or held as backup.
Prowess works with non creature spells, so if you don't mind sorcery speed buffs that cantrip or draw when you connect these auras may be for you; Curious Obsession , Cartouche of Knowledge , Fate Foretold , and Ordeal of Thassa .
For spells Opt allows for filtering, Renegade Tactics is a cantriping evasion option, Thrill of Possibility is a great draw that can be used as a combat trick with prowess and being instant, Titan's Strength and it's ilk make for harder hits.
Also tapped lands are bad, so the less the better. Shivan Reef and Mana Confluence while pain lands are untapped and your game plan should make it so you deal alot more to them than you do to yourself. Ramunap Ruins can offer that last shock to win for longer games. And Basics if balanced usually fill out the rest.
Hopefully that helps some, ifnI were to get into pioneer this probably would have been my first stop as well. +1 for ya.
2 months ago
I saw your deck while looking for some Pioneer deck ideas. Really good deck, my dad used to play Izzet Drakes while it was still in Standard. Have you considered Spellheart Chimera and Steam Vents ? In my opinion, Spellheart is better than Enigma Drake , as it has trample, but you could replace Pteramander for it too. You only have 10 lands that make Sulfur Falls enter the battlefield untapped, and I think you need more to make it more consistent. Steam Vents fits that bill perfectly, as it's a duel land while also having basic land types. I think you should replace the Temples because you want to be using up all your lands to cast spells and creatures. You could also take out a Shivan Reef to make space for a playset of Steam Vents.