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Altar of the Brood
Whenever another permanent enters the battlefield under your control, each opponent puts the top card of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
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Altar of the Brood Discussion
5 minutes ago
Hey, I'm digging this list so far!
I would recommend cutting Glimpse the Unthinkable. A 1-time mill effect that only hits for 10 cards (at $30, to boot) just isn't going to have enough impact in the average game. I would HIGHLY recommend replacing it with Altar of the Brood. This card looks innocuous, but it does freakin' WORK. I played a Lazav deck for a while, and that card always over-performed, especially when dropped on T1.
Additionally, I would recommend replacing Duskmantle, House of Shadow for Nephalia Drownyard. For just one more mana, you get 2 more cards! You'll probably also want to run Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Cabal Coffers to help power out some of those huge X spells. Mind Grind for X = 20 is basically a game-ender in its own right, and that's easy to do with the Coffers doin' work.
I might also recommend Jace's Archivist. He may not seem like a good mill card, but he gets people churning through decks REALLY quickly. Not to mention he has crazy synergy with Sphinx's Tutelage. To that point, Jace's Erasure was another over-performer in the Lazav deck I played. I would cut Millstone for it.
It might be beneficial to replace Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger with one of the OG Eldrazi Titans, simply for the fact that they have the "shuffle your graveyard back into your library" clause. It would help you protect yourself against any incidental self-mill you'll be incurring throughout the course of a game.
My only other advice is to bump up your land count. Not by much, but 36 is usually bare-bones minimum unless your curve tops out at 4. I might recommend 37 or 38 for this build.
1 day ago
I appreciate the suggestion. I'm going for a more tempo/control oriented shell, with the combo as the main win condition. While it's "All-In" in the sense that the deck plays a full set of Serum Visions, Remand, and a copy or two of Dispel, it is still at the end of the day a control deck with an "I Win" button.
I have seen Altar of the Brood in some lists, but I don't think I want to dilute the deck with cards that don't do anything if I don't have the combo. The beauty of the deck in its current form is that all the cards do something individually, with the exception of Felidar Guardian who has a lot of synergies with the rest of the deck. Muddle the Mixture is an interesting suggestion, and something that still fits with the control plan of the deck. I may consider playing 1 and see how it performs.
I do see how I may have been unclear calling this "All-In", but it was more of a reference to the "All-In" Splinter Twin lists from back in the day, which played an extremely streamlined list that played a solid tempo/control game until they had enough tempo or card advantage to combo off.
2 days ago
This seems like worse Splinter Twin, combo which is ok, just make sure you follow the same principle: Your deck is really only going to win by comboing out (except in very cornercase scenarios), so you want many copies of your combo cards. Check out this list from 2015: Splinter Twin.
Then come the dig. Sage Owl is quite weak compared to something like Serum Visions. Your lands and tutors seem a little strange, so just some pointers for cards to add: Mana Leak, Spell Pierce, Negate and Dispel are all great counter spells for any combo deck, and cards like Lightning Bolt and Snapcaster Mage belong in almost any deck that can support them. Electrolyze is also very good.
One last note is that Eldrazi Tron is pretty good in this meta, and that deck plays Emrakul, the Aeons Torn sometimes, so finding an alternate win condition for the sideboard other than Altar of the Brood might be a good idea. I've seen March of the Machines work, as you can also use it to shoot down lands with Liquidmetal coating. Spellskite is another effective SB card to consider.
I also advise not to play the Kaldra cycle. It is very weak and easy to remove.
2 days ago
I don't think the regular mill subtheme works super well; it's a really convoluted win con for EDH excepting infinite combos, and you don't have many cards that take advantage of the graveyards of other people. I think focusing on the infinite combo aspect harder will give you a more streamlined gameplan for sure, and the alternate win-con should probably be tokens with Oona.
To that end, here are some more great tutors to grab Navigator and your other pieces:
Plunge into Darkness <-- works amazingly with Oona tokens.
There are some better board control cards as well:
Faerie Macabre <-- for graveyard synergies, if those are prevelant
Mind Stone etc.
And some more combos/alt win con ideas:
Scion of Oona can let you swing for the win.
Capsize + infinite mana lets you bounce whatever you choose.
Not that all mill pieces aren't good; Altar of the Brood obviously mills out with infinite bounces, Sword of Body and Mind is just good value, Jace's Mindseeker can be nuts with other go-big decks, etc. But the cards that exist just to mill, like Keening Stone, Mirko Vosk, Szadek, Dimir Guildmage--cutting these for a more streamlined approach will help the deck function smoothly.
Of course, if you love the mill strategy, play what you love! But a better commander for that approach is probably Phenax himself.
2 days ago
I think it is a cool combo +1 from me I checked out you first youtube video as well and it was very clear and well done.
I think my advise/comment for going "All-In" for a combo would be to run the Altar of the Brood + Liquimetal Coating + Saheeli Rai than can go off turn 3. also transmute cards like Dizzy Spell/Muddle the Mixture/Drift of Phantasms nearly guarantee you to combo out by T6. the same concept can be applied with Reckless Fireweaver to get around anti mill stuff. If you are curious check out my page and you will see my decklist.
2 days ago
2 days ago
Hey Icbrgr ! Thanks for the Upvote and the suggestion :)
Sound good for me :)