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1B, Discard a creature card: Draw a card. If the discarded card was a Zombie card, put a 2/2 black Zombie creature token onto the battlefield tapped.
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Necromancer's Stockpile Discussion
1 week ago
1 month ago
how much money do you want to spend on cards that can boost this deck in this deck ?
ADDons i would suggest and definitly worth in a cycling / Discard deck - Haakon, Stromgald Scourge - Undead Gladiator - Necromancer's Stockpile - Beseech the Queen - Cryptbreaker - Expedition Map - Dark Petition - Rise of the Dark Realms - Solemn Simulacrum - Burnished Hart - Conspiracy
all these cards can boost your deck or help your deck in my opinion. the question is how much do you want to spend
1 month ago
MTGgoldfish has an article about building a budget mana base that you should check out. One thing it suggests is using painlands, which will always come into play untapped, over checklands, which will come in to play tapped most of the time for you.
Remand isn't good in this deck. Counterspells are best in decks that play at instead speed, and this one doesn't do that. Get a few more creatures and removal spells over that.
Overall, you should use efficient removal over versatile removal. Anguished Unmaking and Oblivion Ring can get rid of anything, but they also cost 3 mana. Better to go with Doom Blade, Go for the Throat or Ultimate Price instead, and keep Anguished Unmaking in the sideboard for when you're up against some deck that has enchantments / artifacts that you need to remove. Better yet, use Fragmentize in the sideboard for that purpose.
Lastly, Prized Amalgam isn't great here. In your deck, 90% of the time it's just a 3/3 for 3 mana, which really isn't good enough for modern. If you want to REALLY take advantage of it, you want to be discarding or milling it and then get it back for free along with something else. If you wanted a deck that was focused on this you'd want 4x Zombie Infestation, 4xGrave Scrabbler, 4xDread Wanderer, and maybe some Haunted Dead and Necromancer's Stockpile along with your amalgams and gravecrawlers. Imagine a game where you cast Zombie Infestation turn 2, discard an Amalgam and a Gravecrawler, and cast the gravecrawler from the graveyard next turn to bring back the amalgam!
1 month ago
I like the concept as it seems original. Some thoughts I had:
I'm not a huge fan of the Altar of Dementia. Granted, it's your kill condition and it's a sac outlet, but you can likely accomplish this another way. Corpse Blockade, Carrion Feeder, Nantuko Husk, and Phyrexian Ghoul all count as sac outlets (and you could argue that the latter three could be game winners as a result). The diregraf captain works as your win condition in this regard and you can stay on theme with zombies. For that matter Gnawing Zombie also works, but his sac ability requires an activation cost so you can't really go infinite.
I presume that "forget" is a way to dump Haakon into your graveyard and not something you really intend to play on the opponent. In that case, maybe consider a card that has additional use like Forbid or Rites of Refusal instead. That way you get a little more utility out of the card (in countering a spell) and also get Haakon in the 'yard.
For that matter, you could also stay on theme with Zombies and use Cryptbreaker, Necromancer's Stockpile, Skirk Ridge Exhumer, or even Zombie Infestation. The first two are the strongest options as they also help filter your deck to get to the cards you want. They can also make use of excess lands you may draw throughout the game.
I like the deck overall though. Nifty idea.
2 months ago
Hmm here's what I'd cut:
Necromancer's Stockpile too slow/expensive.
Also I think you could easily cut 3-4 lands. I personally like 35 in 1 to 2 color decks but 36-37 is pretty common. Hope that helps!
2 months ago
Okay, first of all, I would cut Geralf's Masterpiece, Geralf's Mindcrusher and Forgotten Creation, they're simply not worth the mana cost. Always try to keep your curve low! Instead you should add Geralf's Messenger, it's a tad more expensive($), but it's a really good card, probably the best zombie card out there. Other zombies you should consider to add:
Plague Belcher - target your Gravecrawler turn 4 after combat and you've got a 5/4 with menace in combination with your opponent loosing 1 lige, plus you can cast Gravecrawler again. Potential trigger for both Diregraf Colossus and Prized Amalgam. Having Plague Belcher + Diregraf Captain in play at the same time strongly disencourages the opponent sweeping the board, since he/she will loose a lot of life.
Diregraf Ghoul - 2/2 for 1 mana, it's an okay card.
Cryptbreaker - Bit more expensive, but it can discard a Prized Amalgam, giveng you a nice 2/2 blocker, and gives you card advantage.
Relentless Dead - Also a bit more expensive, but this card is pure win, attack with it and if it dies you can return it to your hand and return a 1 cmc zombie to the battlefield, triggering Prized Amalgam.
Somewhat interesting zombies:
Lifebane Zombie - Sideboard
Zombie Outlander - Sideboard
Dark Salvation - You can pay X=0, giving you a 1 mana kill spell if you have enough zombies. If you have a lot of mana that you can't use otherwise you get a couple of tokens. A solid card.
Personally I'd consider cutting Unbreathing Horde, Butcher Ghoul, Cemetery Reaper (you want to keep your GY), Dimir Aqueduct, Bone Splinters, Ghoulcaller's Chant, Necromancer's Stockpile and maybe Rotting Rats in favor of the above.
Fatal Push - Great removal.
2 months ago
I would do that, but if I were to do that then I would probably put in Necromancer's Stockpile instead of Zombie Infestation. Plus even though this deck has lots of graveyard recursion, you still have to find it, which ends up being a problem, and then there's also the problem of graveyard hate, so I don't want to put that much important stuff early on in the game with discard effects. Especially when most of my playgroup has mass graveyard exiles.
2 months ago
lamogio: It is hard to argue with adding Chromatic Lantern as another rock. I will have to see if I can fit it in. I think I just have to try out the deck first before I move my mana base around to much.
CaptSillva: Thank you for the suggestions. Do you have a Scarab list yourself?
Necromancer's Stockpile is fairly interesting. It if you have a easy way to reanimate, there is no real downside here.
From Under the Floorboards: At first glance, three creatures for the price of one card seems ok. However, this is pretty back if you stop and think about it. However, people will argue the Madness ability makes it worth including... but just look at Army of the Damned. 8cmc = 13 creatures. Floorboards says 8cmc = 5 creatures... Pretty bad, even compared to flashback Army of the Damned. This card is to situational, and kind of lackluster.
Liliana's Mastery is not bad, but I would rather stick with creature Lords that I can reanimate.
Thank you again for the feedback! Don't forget to +1 if you like the deck!!!