Carnage Altar

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Format Legality
Modern Legal
Legacy Legal
Vintage Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal

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Commander 2013 Uncommon
Zendikar Uncommon

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Carnage Altar

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3, Sacrifice a creature: Draw a card.

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Carnage Altar Discussion

rhystictutor on Ghave, Guru of Spores

5 days ago

I also noticed you're lacking in card draw which usually wins games in EDH: Phyrexian Arena, Sylvan Library, Ambition's Cost/Ancient Craving, Armorcraft Judge/Inspiring Call, Shamanic Revelation/Collective Unconscious, Elemental Bond, Mentor of the Meek, Syphon Mind, Dark Prophecy, Carnage Altar/Phyrexian Vault, Harvester of Souls, Promise of Power, Decree of Pain (so good), Infernal Offering... this would be a decent pool to pick out of. I personally try to run as much draw as possible. IMO, you'd want to run atleast 6 draw cards on a curve. On top of more draw spells, you could also go the Land Tax + Scroll Rack route. It depends on how much ya have to spend on cards :P

spulverin on Vertrauen ist gut, Kontrolle besser.

1 month ago

Zeit fr etwas konstruktive Kritik.. in der Beschreibung steht ja das es sich um eine Sammlung handelt...

also du willst scheinbar marchesa auf kontrolle spielen. Sehr gute Wahl :) fangen wir an..

Karten die ich cutten wrde und dahinter potenzieller ersatz.

Barrage of Expendables ersatz Goblin Bombardment

Breeding Pit cool aber zu schwach. du willst ja eigentlich deine eigenen Kreaturen (oder die von gegnern) saccen.... Tokens verschwinden einfach wieder und dein Comander profitiert nicht davon.

genau wie du noch meiner Meinung nach zu viele Zauber spielst, die dir kontrolle ber einzelne Kreaturen geben. dafr sind die Entchantments einfach zu 1. Mana intensiv und 2. Mana intensiv :P mal eben berflogen und bin auf 6 gekommen. Ist natrlich stark und cool.. aber Domineering Will (spielst du auch) ist viel strker.. du kannst die Kreaturen meistens ja eh saccen und dann gehren sie dir.. auerdem ist der instant :P Reins of Power ist etwas gefhrlicher weil du dann deinen Comander auch nicht mehr kontrolierst :)

Carnage Altarcool aber zu mana intensiv. ich wrde auf die gute alte Skullclamp zurckgreifen. du hast gengend sacc outlets um die zuverlssig zu triggern... und kostet wesentlich weniger mana :)

Life Chisel cool aber zu unflexiebel.

Allgemein willst ja 1 und 1 counter auf deinen kreaturen und dein live unten halten.. sag hallo zu deiner betsten karten :P Unspeakable Symbol

sehr angenehmn das du nicht noch versuchst die komplette blaue counter Schiene mit unter zu bringen.. :)

Du wirst weder mit den Lndern noch mit deinen Mana beschleunigern auskommen (passiert mir auch immer)

habe bislang auch keine zuverlssige draw engin gefunden.. sieht aber so aus als knnte das Spa machen wenns fertig ist. Schreib mir was du von der Kritik hlst :)

TomlordMighty on Goblin roast chicken

3 months ago

Or there is also a card,that is maybe better for this deck.Its also cheap.Carnage Altar

By the way,thats a lot Wilcin for a comment. :)

Vorthos_Jenny on Kari Zev Voltron

3 months ago

Bahaha. You're right though, I did misread the bit about the monkey. Perhaps Phyrexian Vault or Carnage Altar....

landofMordor on Jeleva, Mistress of the Arcane

3 months ago

Hey, so just FYI to mention a user you put double square brackets around their name, just like you'd mention a card. [ [card name here] ] or [ [ user name here ] ]. Took me awhile to figure out too(: but I'm happy to help!

Okay, so I love the changes you've made to this deck. I especially love your clever addition of scrying mechanics, so that you can manipulate the cards Jeleva exiles. Crystal Ball, for example, is perfect. I'd check out Fated Conflagration, Fated Return, or Fated Infatuation as potential additional scry effects. Sacrifice mechanics are also brilliant, since it's in your opponents' best interest to leave Jeleva alive, and you need to force a re-cast. Brilliant.

You've also added a lot of "haymakers" or "gamechangers" like Worst Fears, Cruel Ultimatum, etc.Many of these are great, but I feel obligated to mention a quick note on power level -- depending on who you play with, sometimes "extra turn" or "control someone else's turn" effects are frowned upon, or at least, the average power level of your friends' decks may be lower than those turn-control effects. Just be considerate, and remember that the most expensive cards don't always equate to the best cards for your deck (you may not be able to tell, but I'm a big proponent of budget deck-building, haha). Anyways, to the details:

I don't think you need Mind Over Matter, Price of Knowledge, Mnemonic Wall, and some haymakers like Searing Wind, Blood Tribute (Jeleva is your only Vamp, and she'll often tap to attack unless you give her vigilance through equipment, which seems wasteful) and Sorin's Vengeance and maybe some extra turn stuff. The reason I say this is that you don't need to cast a haymaker every single turn to win a game -- you just need enough to gain advantage and capitalize on it. You've put in scrying, which reinforces going for quality over quantity with your wind conditions. Furthermore, I wouldn't put in Traumatize or Liliana Vess from your SB unless you really want to -- they're not much valued added.

To swap in your SB, my most valuable card-cutting advice is to look for effects that your desired card will replace. For example Spelltwine's effect mirrors (and probably is better than) the effect of Mnemonic Wall, so that's a ripe card to swap. As another example, Necromantic Selection might be a fairer version of Plague Wind, which I'm sure your friends would appreciate (also has the benefit of destroying Jeleva, so that you can recast). The exception is when you don't just want to replace an effect, you want to add more of the effect, like with Lim-Dul's Vault. I'd put that card in for something like Mind Over Matter, just a straight swap of "I want this effect" versus "this doesn't help me a ton". However, one of the most rewarding things about deckbuilding is tuning your own deck, so I won't insult your intelligence and explain every card swap to you (: just remember that playtesting is hugely important, and you can playtest without having paper copies of every single card -- just put in a similar (or worse) card and see how you like it.

On that note, you should be sure to notice during playtesting how much card draw you're wanting. Grixis colors are awesome for card draw, and card draw is often necessary to maintaining your fuel during the course of a game. Granted, Jeleva is kinda like free card draw, but if you ever spend a game with 20 cards in exile and only 2 in hand, that's when I'd tweak the number of dedicated draw engines. Treasure Cruise, Staff of Nin, Preordain, Anticipate, Carnage Altar even. The cool thing about drawing is that it gives you more haymakers without actually having copies in your deck (since you'll go through your deck faster), and also ensures you get enough support to actually make the win happen (through land, ramp, utility spells, etc).

Sorry about the novella, but I hope some of this was useful! Best of luck with Jeleva-- you've chosen a cool and flavorful commander, and I hope all goes well for you. As always, reply if I can do anything else.

The_mad_coder on Mikaeus, the Unhallowed EDH

5 months ago

OK, awesome deck, +1. There are quite a few cards that spring to mind right away for this deck, like Sadistic Hypnotist, destroys everyone else's hands, and attracts so much hate, but there's very little they can do about it! Dross Harvester gets you infinite life once you get one of your combos going.Blood Artist and Falkenrath Noble get infinite life and infinite damage. Thoughtpicker Witch requires mana, but with a limited amount, you can control your opponent's top deck and with an infinite amount you can mill out everyone. Shadows of the Past gets you the same effect as Viscera Seer, but you need a sac outlet to get it to work. Phyrexian Plaguelord is a sac outlet that wipes the board once you get a fodder out. Also, wouldn't the infinite draw combos with Carnage Altar and Infernal Tribute only work if you have a an infinite mana combo out? I might just be missing something here.

I got all of these card suggestion from my deck I'm SAHRy you have to play against this deck, which is quite similar to your deck despite have different commanders, so there might be a few more cards that you could use.

GoldenDiggle on Budget Karador EDH Combo

5 months ago

Ok, so 20 sac outlets is a lot.

Altar of Dementia is a bit underwhelming since you don't do any other mill yourself, you are basically hoping your opponents deck themselves.

Blasting Station only reliably works with Evangel of Heliod (I could be overlooking/missing a combo), but it doesn't seem all to impressive.

Phyrexian Plaguelord has great options, but with a CMC of 5, he isn't the best to have. I would pick Sadistic Hypnotist over it.

At 5 CMC a sac, Elvish Skysweeper seems pricey at best. However, if flying is a problem, go for it, but its not going to stop an Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Sigarda, Host of Herons, and definitely not a Zur the Enchanter.

Fallen Angel is really cool to use, but falls short when compared to Fallen Ideal, which not only returns to your hand (just self sac if the enchant is gonna be destroyed), but also allows you to put the sac outlet on anything, including Karador.

I would actually replace Carnage Altar with Vampiric Rites, the comparison in value is crazy.

As far as tutors go, Fleshwrither literally grabs 1 of 4 creatures. Jarad, Meren, Solemn, or Flesh-Eater Imp. Sure, you can recast him, but paying 7 mana for a tutor like that when you could just drop Entomb to cast something or Jarad's Orders for one in 'yard and one in hand just look a lot better.

Ashen Rider is a bit pricey, but it has uses (especially with Soldevi Adnate) but if you don't have more ways to get him out easy, is he worth the CMC of 8?

I hope this helps with some insight! I have been a big fan of yours and you are always supportive of my decks! Good luck cutting! If you need more cuts, I'll be close.

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