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Flash (You may cast this spell any time you can cast an instant.)
When Deceiver Exarch enters the battlefield, choose one ---
Untap target permanent you control
Tap target permanent an opponent controls.
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Deceiver Exarch Discussion
1 week ago
Not having Imperial Recruiter makes it tough on Animar, because the Recruiter enables so much of what the deck wants to do, on top of being the key piece in a lot of combo chains. I agree with a lot of what JMCraig has said, but I'd like to offer some advice in regards to running Kiki-combo in Animar:
First, I'll acknowledge that running Kiki-combo comes at a small cost in consistency, in that all those cards could instead be mana dorks or ways to draw more cards. Those slots could also be used for silver-bullet spells geared to your meta, such as running Scavenging Ooze for dealing with The Gitrog Monster (which is Animar's only real way of interacting with Gitrog's combo beyond stealing Gitrog with Gilded Drake). That being said, Kiki-combo does offer you a combo that doesn't rely on having Animar in play or necessarily require chaining with Recruiter.
If you are running Kiki-combo, you'll also want Bloom Tender, Glen Elendra Archmage, and Birthing Pod in your deck to give your Kiki-combo pieces added value and integrate them better into the rest of the deck. Bloom Tender is great in general, and if you have both it and Animar with 2 counters out Deceiver Exarch and Pestermite essentially become pseudo-Dark Rituals by untapping Bloom Tender.
The reason you want Birthing Pod and Glen Elendra Archmage is because they let you go: Activate Birthing Pod and sacrifice the Archmage -> Persist brings back the Archmange -> fetch out Zealous Conscripts when the Pod's ability resolves and use the Conscript's trigger to untap Birthing Pod -> Activate the Pod and sac the Archmage again to fetch out Kiki-Jiki to combo off with the Conscripts.
You can also use the Pod to sac a 2-mana creature -> fetch Pestermite -> untap Pod -> activate Pod and sac the Pestermite to fetch the Archmage. You are stopped there for the turn, but just having the Archmage out (hopefully with some blue lands untapped to use its ability) can put a lot of pressure on your opponents. They now have to play around the Archmage, and if they can't either kill it once or force you to use its ability then you are threatening to end the game on your next turn. The whole process is fairly easy for your opponents to interrupt if they time their removal right, but on their own both Birthing Pod and the Archmage offer a lot on their own as deck inclusions anyway.
Beyond those combos, you can used Pestermite and Deceiver Exarch as "free" creatures when comboing off with Cloudstone Curio, or to tap down potential blockers or counterspell mana at the end of an opponent's turn. And on more than one occasion I've cast Zealous Conscripts right after casting Kozilek to give Kozilek haste and swing for the Annihilator trigger.
As a side note, I've found that I don't like running Splinter Twin in Animar. I've often found having a 4-mana non-creature spell that is only useful in specific situations to often just be a dead draw. However, I know some people have included it for extra redundancy, so whatever suits your fancy.
Anyway, if you do end up keeping Kiki-Jiki in the deck for a while longer, I hope these ideas help.
1 month ago
So after racking enough counters on Animar with the Hoverguard combo, I'm guessing that you just bounce back Metamorph, copy Imperial Recruiter again, then tutor and cast Walking Ballista for the win? That's the simplest line I can currently think of to kill multiple opponents in one turn.
And yeah, I've been looking at Brutalizer Exarch. It's sending me on a bit of a nostalgia trip, because I had included it back in my first version of my Animar deck.
Mad World Rising is my current Animar list, but there are a number of cards that are due to be replaced. Bloodbraid Elf, Venser, Shaper Savant, and Slithermuse only occasionally give me the value I would like from them, and Duplicant is a recent addition that I'm still not sold on. Brainstorm has done good work for me but may not be worth including now that I finally have a Sylvan Library for the deck. Priest of Titania is another recent inclusion that I'm second-guessing. I'm going to keep the Kiki-jiki package for the now because Pestermite and Deceiver Exarch have integrated themselves into how I like to pilot the deck.
So if you are up for giving me some suggestions; lets say I freed up 6 slots in my deck by removing the cards I mentioned above, based on your experience what would be your top six recommended cards that I should include that I don't already have?
1 month ago
Thanks for the reply!
So what would your thoughts be regarding having the Kiki-jiki combo in Animar? I know that a number of people consider it too slow and awkward with its mana requirement, but it does come with the benefit of being a 2-piece infinite combo that doesn't required Animar on the board. Cards like Eldritch Evolution and Vizier of the Menagerie have also gone a long way to making the combo more accessible.
Kiki-jiki combo pieces do take up a number of slots though, and can warp how the deck plays. Pestermite and Deceiver Exarch tie in well with Cloudstone Curio combos but they also make you compromise deck space that could go to other functions like more ramp, card draw, or silver-bullet cards like Scavenging Ooze.
When I first saw your list, I was surprised that it did not include Wirewood Symbiote because I thought it was a powerhouse for netting extra value and Animar counters with cards like Rishkar, Peema Renegade, Elvish Visionary, and Reclamation Sage. Would you say that there just aren't enough elves in the deck to make the Symbiote's inclusion worthwhile, or was it excluded for another reason?
1 month ago
@EpicFreddi: I'm surprised that list doesn't have Heart of Kiran, a way to sac permanents, or some other way to remove a loyalty counter from a planeswalker. Heart of Kiran + Sun Titan + Saheeli Rai. You remove a loyalty counter to animate Heart of Kiran, -2 Saheeli Rai to copy Sun Titan, then bring Saheeli Rai back to the battlefield and repeat. That's a cool deck! One of the better Modern versions I've seen.
Part of the issue with the Saheeli Rai + Felidar Guardian combo in Modern is that it doesn't operate at instant speed like Splinter Twin + Deceiver Exarch/Pestermite. That was what made Splinter Twin so brutal was the fact you can just lose at any moment your opponent has access to and .
When trying to go off at sorcery speed, you have to cast Felidar Guardian/Saheeli Rai during your main phase, pass the turn, and hope you untap with one of them in order to go off. That gives your opponent an opportunity to play Abrupt Decay, Maelstrom Pulse, Path to Exile, fetchland + Fatal Push, a couple of Lightning Bolt(s), and so on.
In other words, all of the removal Splinter Twin would face, and then more removal on top of that. Not to mention, you have to tap out on your turn, so your opponent is free to laugh at you when they combo off and kill you when you pinged for damage and scry'd once.
1 month ago
ajacobik, Erebos, God of the Dead is essentially just a mono-black draw commander, he really isn't that powerful as lifegain is not as important in multiplayer EDH. Ertai, the Corrupted on the other hand has access to two more colors, has an ability that can combo with dies triggers, combos with Mind Over Matter and Paradox Engine, and has built in interaction with your opponents. Ertai, the Corrupted is by far the more powerful commander between the two and deserves his spot in tier 3, the same can't be said of Erebos, God of the Dead.
On a side note I wholeheartedly believe that Arjun, the Shifting Flame is NOT a tier 4 general. He may not be as powerful as some other storm commanders but his ability is not one that can be ignored. His Mindmoil ability combos very well with Alhammarret's Archive and Thought Reflection which can be used to draw your entire deck and win with Laboratory Maniac. Having Arjun as your commander will usually let you see your entire deck just by cycling though it. This makes him one of the best commanders for a Splinter Twin/Pestermite and/or Deceiver Exarch/Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker as well as numerous other combos in izzet. Due to his cycling ability he makes an excellent storm commander because you can constantly cast the cards you need to and get rid of the leftovers.
I believe the most competitive list I have (the one I put on the cEDH subreddit) is here: Arjun, Flame on!
It operates by storming off with Alhammarret's Archive, Paradox Engine, and/or other draw or mana positive effects then win with Laboratory Maniac or Aetherflux Reservoir it can do this (with or without Arjun) as early as turn 3.
It is for this reason I believe Arjun is probably a tier 2.5 commander and if not, at least tier 3. He certainly does not deserve tier 4 because competitive builds with him are viable.
2 months ago
Interesting deck, so +1 from me, here's my 2 cents.
- There are some cards that are great in Commander that fit your theme! Among these are Whispersilk Cloak, Rogue's Passage, Cloak and Dagger, Swiftfoot Boots, Invisible Stalker, Shadowmage Infiltrator, Thalakos Deceiver, and Quietus Spike.
Coastal Piracy also comes to mind.
The next cards I'm going to suggest aren't exactly on theme, but I think they do enough in your deck that they should be included regardless, as they have such powerful synergy with what you play.
If you want any more suggestions feel free to let me know!
2 months ago
2 months ago
Just saw the Pestermite and Deceiver Exarch. Don't know how I missed those with Kiki-Jiki. I'd either keep or cut all three. Since it's a combo that doesn't interact with your commander or the theme of the deck, it could be cut, but I don't know how often you pull it off. If it's not often, that's 3 slots for good stuff that compliments the deck. If it is often, then by all means keep it.