Made 1000+ decks or so, been pretty active. I play modern and commander, but not super competively in modern. I also like legacy combos for what it's worth.

From 7/24/2018 to 8/24/2018, I am #2 on the Deck Lords list, and #1 on the Top Helpers list! That's well over 4 straight weeks! From 8/25/2018 to 8/30/2018, I am #1 on both! Today, 8/31/2018, I have went back to #2 on the decklords list. as of 9/4/2018-10/20/18, I am the #1 user on both lists, Booyah! That's like a month and a half of being #1 on both Helper and Decklord. As of 10/21/2018-11/2/2018, I am once again #2/#1.

I love building competitive varients on any archtype or deck, and I also love budgeting competitive lists, this goes for modern, commander, or legacy. I also play standard, pauper, used to play Tiny Leaders, Pauper Commander, and have delved into some other lesser known formats like Noble and Collosus, and do limited events from time to time.


Check out All About EDH for an in depth description on the entire format, or Why Every Commander is Competitive for delving into cEDH.


I have been spending a lot of my time attempting to get new players into Magic: The Gathering, and I have learned something big, a lot of them don't want to spend a lot of money.

Yeah, I get it, I should have known that random people don't like spending hundreds of dollars on a game they don't know if they would like, and many dedicated players don't want to spend that much money either, but in all honesty, I realized it made a circulating loop.

When a player who gets a budget deck plays it, they normally lose because of their deck, and their lack on knowledge. If you teach them properly how to play, and then give them a reasonably powerful deck, as I have done (lost money in the process, but it was worth it for the bit of research), I have found they commonly branch out into other formats, keep playing, trying new things, and becoming a dedicated player.

I have since spent a bit of money on new players, or bought cards for people who I think would appreciate them, I met someone who wanted to play with 4 Armageddon s, they told me, "Who cares if it breaks a social contract, what will they do to me? They have no lands!" I thought it was hilarious, that showing someone the complexity of a game and putting a grip of cards in their hand will almost every time get them hooked, making them a Planeswalker for, at least months, I don't have much more research than that.

I know I can't get everyone to follow this, asking you to pay money to get more people into the game is beyond me. I do want to help you do it though. Don't spend $100 on someone that doesn't play MTG.

Whatever your favorite format is, whatever you think they will like, whether you play modern, vintage, legacy, standard, EDH, pauper, whatever it is, if you can, I want to ask you to spend $20.

$20 Decks is a link to a folder of cards I want to share to you, that will show you reasonably powered decks, some from $11-$24, around 21 decks as of 11/1/2018 spanning 6 formats, mostly Modern and EDH lists, that can win against many decks, with full sideboards (when applicable), manabases that attempt to consistently hit their colors, and cards that will be kept no matter how much they are upgraded.

Inkmoth says... #1

Wait... so this is basically mono-green high tide? ( Reset high tide where you just respond to your opponent winning by winning, with your whole deck being instant-speed.) -SynergyBuild

This description got me, man. Thanks for that! :D

March 18, 2019 11:06 p.m.

SynergyBuild says... #2

kirimi didn't see your message... Tier 3ish? IDK, as it wasn't cEDH.

March 18, 2019 10:22 a.m.

kirimi says... #3

What tier would you put that version of the chromium, the mutable deck that you helped to make with starsky? The voltron one?

March 15, 2019 10:46 a.m.

Dead-Ra says... #4

Didnt found an edit button....

To get people hooked to Magic is hard because of The expensive cards, but to get someone to Play Commander is easy -just prox him a nice list - and as He Starts to Play He will get hooked on ^^ and starts to experiment self with changes. You as group have fun and maybe He will buy The deck together Or not ;) just not important for commander;).

Autocorrection in german... ;)

February 28, 2019 6:32 p.m.

Dead-Ra says... #5

To get people hooked vor Magic ist hard because of The expensive cards, but to get someone to Play Commander ist easy -just prox hin a nice list - aus He Starts to Play He will get hooked. YouTube have fun and maybe He will nix The deck together.

February 27, 2019 2:59 a.m.

realsoupersand says... #6

I saw your recent post on the cEDH Sisay primer and I was hoping you might be able to look mine over and let me know what you think. There are a lot of odd meta choices in it, like excess creature removal in the form of cards like Last Breath, but these are for threats like Aven Mindcensor that I come across in nearly every multiplayer game.

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/and-the-wind-shall-scream-my-name/?cb=1550705146

I've tuned her as well as I think I can and she runs smoothly, but I'm sure I'm missing something.

If you're unable or unwilling, no problem :)

February 22, 2019 3:22 p.m.

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#1

Faithless Looting , Karmic Guide , Felidar Guardian , Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker , Red Elemental Blast .

Cast FL, discard another card and F-Guardian. Flash it back, mill the Kiki, keep the REB. Cast Karmic Guide, Return either F-Guardian to flicker Karmic Guide or Kiki to copy guide. go infinite when you have F-Guardian and Kiki. Hold REB for protection.

March 22, 2019 1:41 p.m.

Said on Yeva Draw-Grow...

#2

Shimmer/ Paradox Engine allows for mass, instant speed storm, at an insane ease. Yisan, while being better with Engine (untapping Yisan allows for fetching Llanowar Elves into Priest of Titania into Shimmer Myr into Temur Sabertooth or whatever, then keep untapping Yisan to go off until Great Oak Guardian then Sabertooth into infinite mana) still isn't an instant-speed spell, that is the issue. If the gamplan can be Swords to Plowshares ed at sorcery speed, the deck is doing something wrong.

Here's why:

If, just by playing lands, maybe a dork or some rocks, and passing, drawing cards, biding your time until the winning combo or impossibly difficult to win through lock hits the table, respond by casting everything you need to until you win.

This playstyle is Legacy Resetide ( Reset / High Tide with untap effects and a deck made up of Islands and instants, ready to storm until it casts a lethal Stroke of Genius on the opponent). I simply wanted to see if it was possible to accomplish a similar playstyle in Yeva.

You can't build Resetide in EDH because there isn't the consistency of running 7 Resets and 7 Tides (Legacy uses Cunning Wish as a playset for the 7 copies of every card in the deck it needs), nor can it even run enough instant speed draw and untap and ramp to pull it off without them, so mono-blue is out.

Zur can storm off at instant speed using Necropotence and Shimmer Myr , however doesn't have the luxury of doing it at anytime but on their own endstep, making it not a true-instant speed storm, as it can't do it in repsonse to an opponent winning on the opponent's turn.

Yeva, this list, can do it, only given a good hand and a lot of mana, but it can, with GoG and Cat. That was my interest in the deck. The issue was getting Cat, dorks that tapped for enough, and GoG, the mana to go off, and the interaction/protection to pull it all off.

Yeva was a long-shot, but if any deck could do it, Yeva seems like the one. The issue I found immediatly was wincon-lightness and tutor-lightness. The Cloudstone Curio , Paradox Engine wincons of the deck only go off at sorcery speed, so have big issues, however Shimmer Myr solves that, and allows for Walking Ballista , Candelabra of Tawnos (for Gaea's Cradle ), and more rocks to go off. The issue again is tutoring for that, then for the new combos. If this list had the tutor-density that a 3 color list like Zur would, it would work amazingly. As is, it just doesn't get there.

I am going to work further on this and try to get it to work, but Soren841 may be right that this is too difficult to accomplish.


Resetide may have friends in Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir . I may put some time into testing him out. That 5 mana cost is my biggest issue.

March 22, 2019 1:24 p.m.

Other cards in white that deal damage to you are rare, but some colorless cards exist for the job, here all of the ones that come to mind:

The white part of the Odyssey utility threshold lands: Nomad Stadium

Grand Coliseum and City of Brass

Mana Vault and Mana Crypt are even better than usual here!

Staff of Nin xDD to deal damage to you!

Ankh of Mishra would be amazing!

Off of that staff one I though of Blasting Station ... there is some infinite combo there, right?

Jinxed Idol might not be so jinxed after all!

Ancient Tomb is amazing as well.


That is all I have for that... now for some finishers once you have the life/token engine going!

Well of Lost Dreams / Mentor of the Meek ? They would do a fair amount of work in terms of drawing.

Felidar Sovereign / Archangel of Thune - normal lifegain shenanigans.

Jazal Goldmane / Cathars' Crusade / Coat of Arms / Mirror Entity / Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite - normal token shenanigans.

Anointed Procession for more fun?

Divine Visitation too...

Ashnod's Altar / Phyrexian Altar would be good value

Slate of Ancestry on that note.

That's all I got... other than random anthem effects like Dictate of Heliod , but that would be too weak IMO.

March 22, 2019 11:16 a.m.

Darien often is just a Soul Sister's deck that likes to deal damage to itself. It uses Darien and an effect like Soul's Attendant , Ajani's Welcome or Suture Priest ... Anointer Priest ... Angelic Chorus , Healer of the Pride , Impassioned Orator , Pious Evangel  Flip, and Auriok Champion ? I think those are all of them.

Then you just tap a Tarnished Citadel , deal 3 to yourself, gain 3 tokens, 3+ life, and have some effects that abuse the token generation. I think Mentor of the Meek or Cathars' Crusade style effects.

March 22, 2019 11:02 a.m.

Said on Yeva Draw-Grow...

#5

I haven't had more than about 6 hours of testing and brewing, over the weekend I can do more. As is I can't seem to make it work. Sadly, there isn't enough consistency in the list. More ramp and card draw is required, but the deck just can't support that.

I'll try to rethink it over the weekend. Until then I am just gonna ponder it at FNM.

March 22, 2019 10:44 a.m.

Also this was their only post. They did nothing else.

March 21, 2019 2:15 p.m.

His account joined 4 hours ago and so I think he though this was for another game.

March 21, 2019 2:14 p.m.

Looked it up, not a copypasta. Seems like gibberish IMO

I think a post that wasn't meant for T/O entirely. Real post tho.

March 21, 2019 1:55 p.m.

sergiodelrio You are right on how Counterspell would affect modern, definitively, however, you made a mistake. WotC doesn't care. Either that or they are too dense to tell.

March 21, 2019 1:51 p.m.

Also, your premise was that there would be little/no powerhouse reprints. I just doubt that, so my two examples, a powerhouse tutor and hate piece, do vioalte your premise.

March 21, 2019 1:41 p.m.

sergiodelrio my point was that they haven't reprinted some major legacy staples in a while, nothing else.

March 21, 2019 1:39 p.m.

Null Chamber = Kill two opposing commanders. Team up with an opponent, name the rest of the commanders between both. Win!

Dimir Charm = Have you read this card? It messes over the guy Vampiric Tutor ing for an instant win combo. It counters the Expropriate , then kills the Hermit Druid .

Boil /Color hate in general = Wins games. At any cost.

March 21, 2019 1:38 p.m.

Said on I'd like to ......

#13

You weren't referring to even chance. I said chance at all.

March 21, 2019 1:22 p.m.

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#14

What do you mean, a colorless 99 pile with no commander can beat the best lists in the format.

March 21, 2019 12:54 p.m.

sergiodelrio

Sorry I was unable to respond quickly, however here is my delayed response:

Any other set may not do, as legacy reprints are not made. When was the last printing of Recruiter of the Guard , Sanctum Prelate , Thalia, Guardian of Thraben , Life from the Loam , etc. Eternal Masters, Ultimate Masters, and some of the other Masters sets were a great addition to the reprints, but now that masters are gone, where are they gonna put them?

Also, legacy reprints don't need to be kept expensive, they sell packs. That is all they need to do.

March 21, 2019 12:50 p.m. Edited.

There are three reasons some powerhouse non-new cards would be printed:

  • The first is specifically to appease the community's need for reprints. Simple to explain, not a huge revelation.

  • The second is for limited playing. Powerhouse uncommon reprints like Swords or even a Force Spike could just occur to make playing limited more enticing. How many times do you get to play Force Spike in a draft?

  • The last is to sell product without hoping their cards are too backbreaking. If they want to reprint legacy staples, to lower prices, they can, however I'd imagine someone in Finance at Hasboro knows it won't affect sales of the product that much. The big thing is that if they are scared of ruining modern, which if the power level of the new cards is too high they might, having safe cards they have designed prior would be in their best interest. It is a safe option, not something I have seen them do a lot of, but not something they haven't done or won't continue to.

Also, for your theory on them printing Containment Priest into standard, there are only so many cards like Scapeshift or Crucible of Worlds they can fit. Those cards for the eternal formats that don't affect standard have an issue. They don't affect standard. They can't make 30% of a standard set's rare slots have no effect on standard AND not have flavor that goes with the set, so they only can fit ~5 cards for eternal formats max per set. Often 3 or less. I just don't see that occurring often.

Hope I could change your mind a bit. This is really interesting to chat about so I am glad you asked the community!

March 21, 2019 11:16 a.m.

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#17

No deck autoloses based on colors. That was my analogy to the colorless deck.

There is not a deck Orzhov can't beat.

March 21, 2019 11:05 a.m.

Also, do you have a link to the image you sent? I can't see it right now.

March 21, 2019 10:10 a.m.

Said on stax, budget...

#19

Sweet!

March 21, 2019 9:05 a.m.

I am sorry, I was unable to get on. I don't think I will pick it up, apologies.

March 21, 2019 9:05 a.m.

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