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Helm of Obedience
(X), Tap: Target opponent puts cards from the top of his or her library into his or her graveyard until a creature card or X cards are put into that graveyard this way, whichever comes first. If a creature card is put into that graveyard this way, sacrifice Helm of Obedience and put that card into play under your control. X can't be 0.
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Helm of Obedience Discussion
5 days ago
Sorry for the late reply ShatteredMoon98, been super swamped with replies.
But in regards with your question, since you are going to be focusing on a combo oriented version. Choose the line you want to win with first. At first glance I see three different main combo lines with an assortment of mini combos as well. If your going with the Deadeye Navigator / Peregrine Drake infinite mana route, you would need an outlet for it. I do see four outlets which is Duskmantle Guildmage, Mind Grind, Oona, as well as Geth. The other I see is Leyline of the Void / Helm of Obedience which is a great two card combo and than I also see the Mikaeus, the Unhallowed and Triskelion route. Out of those three you can probably cut the Mike + Trike combo, it doesn't necessarily further your game plan and would actually have to add some reanimation aspect if you want to keep it in.
I would actually cut those two pieces out and add in more protection and cards that benefit for the other two since, all your other mini-combos do work with the other strategy.
Lmk if there are other things you want to clarify on!
6 days ago
Hi iatetoomxch i really like your list. I play a similar list. So i will give you some recommendions. Because of your direct impact preference:
- Aura of Silence - hate and destroy one ^^
- Wood Elves - really good with the recursion possibilitys
- Plaguecrafter - best. Only creature Answer for planeswalker
- Ravenous Chupacabra - destroy target creature (an opponent controls)
- Ramunap Excavator - i play this card with - Azusa, Lost but Seeking and Oracle of Mul Daya and Yavimaya Elder to ramp lands or Wasteland or Horizon Canopy
- Grand Abolisher - make your turn save
- Grasp of Fate - sometimes you want more than one thing away
- Massacre Wurm - shave live
- Bane of Progress - destroy all enchantment and artifact
good but not direct impact:
- Underrealm Lich i like him... sure to mana expensive for your meta
- Bounty Agent - idk new try to kill commander i think
- Kambal, Consul of Allocation - soft lock for life
- Mesmeric Orb really good fill for the graveyard and annoys the other ^^
- Caustic Caterpillar
- Bloom Tender
- Helm of Obedience - against my deck all who can play Rest in Peace so this is the answer...
1 week ago
The Scarab God might be a good inclusion for this deck, as it provides repeatable graveyard recursion.
I would certaintly move Fraying Sanity from your maybeboard to the deck itself.
I do not think Secret Salvage is a great card for you. While you can fetch all your petitioners to your hand, you still need the ability to cast them. After you spend five mana on a tutor, that's going to be pretty difficult. Instead, consider running Fabricate . It can fetch your Thrumming Stone , your Mindcrank , your Helm of Obedience , or even a mana rock if needed.
3 weeks ago
Might I recommend some graveyard interaction? If you're forcing your opponent to discard, why not take advantage of that? Try cards like Reanimate , Necromancy , and Animate Dead to pull out some of your opponent's creatures. If you want to add some mean cards, consider Bojuka Bog or Leyline of the Void which combos with Helm of Obedience .
Also, I noticed that Nath says, "Whenever an opponent discards a card..." so you wouldn't need any cards with Cycling or cards that make you discard.
A deck like this can bring on a ton of negative attention during play, so I would also recommend adding cards to protect yourself. Making your opponents discard cards is going to make you a target. Maybe add some cards to help your opponents draw new cards so they don't wipe your board away.
3 weeks ago
Hope this has helped!
Mrs. and Mr. NV_1980
4 weeks ago
Cool. I'm glad to see you're taking this constructive criticism well (though I know I'd be feeling a lot of pet-love towards abom & some others), I know I wouldn't!
Some spicy, speedy combos that are tutorable:
Helm of Obedience & Leyline of the Void (obviously the most mana intensive at 9 mana, likely only tutored for if an opponent plays RIP/void against you, or it's a 5 mana combo if you start with leyline in play - pretty simple.
That's all I can think of combo-wise for speeding up the deck, I'm afraid. Not that you're intending to go fast. This is evidently a combat-based stax-deck... like a Najeela slow-roll, but with great consistency.
1 month ago
I don't think you understand Stasis is a lock piece, not a combo, Winter Orb, Static Orb, Tangle Wire, and many other cards replacing it when you need to shut down an opponent, and that the deck can be built on a different combo, oftentimes Rest in Peace/Leyline of the Void and Helm of Obedience or any walker that can ultimate, the combo isn't a major part of Staxshifter, while being useful. The deck is a Stax deck, and Aminatou can run other cheaper stax when it wants to. Fall of the Thran is a favorite budget stax include, and Bottomless Pit is too.
1 month ago
Thanks for the suggestions, Steinofthewest. Walking Ballista and Helm of Obedience look like great inclusions and I'll have to get my hands on them sometime. I own a copy of Phyrexian Altar but run it in a different deck (Djmentia Unchained) and am too lazy to move it back-and-forth between them. Might need a second copy one day.
P.s. No typo in the name, just my feeble attempt at humour and making the King of Kjeldor sound like some guy you might run into at the local.
Helm of Obedience occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.05%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%
W/U/B (Esper): 0.06%