Force of Vigor

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Custom Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Modern Horizons (MH1) Rare

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Force of Vigor

Instant

If it's not your turn, you may exile a green card from your hand rather than pay this spell's mana cost.

Destroy up to two target artifacts and/or enchantments.

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Force of Vigor Discussion

Jack-Frost on Who You Calling A Fossil?

1 week ago

Actually, I will give a few thoughts.

The Immortal Sun - What does this do for your deck or game plan? It tries to do a lot but instead only does a little of a bunch of things for too high of a cost.

Lifecrafter's Bestiary - Doesn't do enough and costs extra every time you want to activate it. Instead run Elemental Bond or Guardian Project .

Rishkar's Expertise - Most of your creatures are going to cost more than it can provide, so it's honestly not worth it. Look into Sylvan Library and Colossal Majesty instead.

Harmonize - I'm not a fan of paying mana to draw cards as it tends to kill most of what you were going to do on your turn. Instead look into cards like Defense of the Heart or Descendants' Path .

Decimate - Zacama, Primal Calamity should take care of most of your artifact and enchantment destruction on his own, making this redundant, but this card also comes with the unfortunate problem that you can ONLY cast it if you have viable creature, artifact, enchantment, AND land targets. If you are missing any one of the 4 it's a dead card, and if one of those 4 is your own then you're forced to destroy that. Now, if you find that you really need more artifact and enchantment hate look into cards like Krosan Grip or Force of Vigor .

Savage Stomp - Why would you risk your creatures with this? If you are able to target them then you already have removal in the form of Path to Exile or Swords to Plowshares , not to mention Zacama, Primal Calamity ability to deal damage to creatures. If your opponent has a combat trick then you just lost your creature. It's a gimmicky card and I think there are better things you can do with the card slot in your deck. For example, Aggravated Assault or Reckless Assault will give you multiple combats which will really let you bring the full power of your dinosaurs to bear without giving your opponents time to recover.

Commune with Dinosaurs - A waste. Run Sylvan Library or Sensei's Divining Top for much better and more consistent effects.

Priest of the Wakening Sun - Why? If you need a fetch then run cards like Worldly Tutor , Finale of Devastation or Chord of Calling . If you need lifegain there are plenty of better sources. This just reveals cards in your hand to your opponents, gains a tiny bit of life, and kills an entire turn with your expensive fetch.

Atzocan Seer - Skip the returning Dinosaurs. You're a creature deck, and a big one at that. Just focus on constantly dropping big creatures and hitting your opponent, putting so much pressure on them that they don't have time to worry about strategy. Aggro decks don't really worry about their graveyard. As for the mana, you'd be far better served with Birds of Paradise or Sylvan Caryatid , or if you go non-budget then Bloom Tender .

Drover of the Mighty - Why do you care how big your mana dork is? You shouldn't be swinging with him anyway. Grab a Birds of Paradise or a Sylvan Caryatid instead.

Gigantosaurus - I'm honestly really not a fan of anything that costs 5 of the same color. This pretty much kills anything else you were planning on doing on your turn, which is absolutely not what you want to have happen. Sure it's a 10/10, but it's really not worth that downside, especially without trample. Look at Carnage Tyrant for a fantastic alternative.

Kinjalli's Sunwing - This draws unnecessary hate and really doesn't help your game out that much. You have a deck of giant dinosaurs. This shouldn't be an issue. If you really feel you need it then look into Authority of the Consuls or Urabrask the Hidden instead.

Runic Armasaur - Too specific and unreliable. There are better uses for the card slot.

Sakura-Tribe Elder - While a good card, your deck can't take full advantage of this and would be better off running land fetches like Tempt with Discovery , Nature's Lore , or Skyshroud Claim , all of which are better and come out untapped.

Samut, Voice of Dissent - Why in heaven's name are you running this? This card is awful? If it's for the haste then there are tons of better cards. Look at Fervor , Rhythm of the Wild , or Fires of Yavimaya . Even Urabrask the Hidden would be a better way to spend 5 mana. Is it for the untap effect? There are still much better options such as Seedborn Muse . This card burns 5 mana for no good reason. No. Just no.

Shalai, Voice of Plenty - Meh. I'd run Leyline of Sanctity or Privileged Position instead. Asceticism , Archetype of Endurance , and Sterling Grove are other good options. All are harder to hit and kill. It's nice but overall i'd run the alternatives instead.

Shifting Ceratops - Doesn't do enough. It's nice but not good enough overall.

Territorial Hammerskull - While not inherently bad, it's also just "meh". It's okay. I'd rather have cards that give your creatures trample and just march your dinosaurs through your opponents, and/or bigger and better creatures.

Thrashing Brontodon - This is redundant with Zacama, Primal Calamity and you'd be better served with instants like Krosan Grip or Force of Vigor .

Hull Breach - Force of Vigor is a better alternative to this that also has instant speed.

Jaya, Venerated Firemage - Why? This is a waste of a good slot. Run Warstorm Surge and get a far better effect than her. If you want more damage then run Dictate of the Twin Gods . She's really not worth it.

Samut, Tyrant Smasher - This card is awful. Run any, and I mean any haste enabler instead. Her negative is awful and her passive is better on any other card. Honestly, run Xenagos, God of Revels . He's amazing, gives haste, doubles a creature's power, and add's their power to their toughness.

Temple of the False God - I've taken this out of most, if not all, of my decks by now. It's not great honestly. It seems really good, but if you get it early game then it's a dead land that stares up into you and slowly seeps the joy out of your soul, and if you get it late game then it's just an extra mana that really doesn't matter to you.

skookes on Superfreinds Devotion (5-6)

2 weeks ago

Tuesday Night Modern: 2-2

Rock 2-0

Jund 2-1

Both of these games played out similar. This deck is susceptible to discard and removal. Veil of Summer could very well be main deckable if your meta consists of blue black decks. Drawing well and still landing my combo thru Jund being Jund was satisfying.

Hoogakk 0-2

These games were aberrations. I lost to my opponent having 2 peices of spot removal in the early turns to prevent my turn 3 combo and Force of Vigor completely wrecked the combo in the next game. i really don't expect that much interaction from this matchup, and usually expect the combo to prevail in a typical game against them. i'm not saying the matchup is favorable, i'm not really sure, i just expect losses to typically come from graveyard creatures, than the combo being interrupted by a deck that only runs 4 cards of removal in the maindeck.

Mono-Red Pheonix 1-2

Good battle with Elspeth, Sun's Champion overwhelming opponent. Second game, the tempo of opponent burning my dorks, i was not generating enough mana to play and or protect my planeswalkers. Deciding game i mulled to 4, just no chance to have a mana dork stick.

Fun deck to play. i am taking out Karn Liberated and putting in Llanowar Tribe . Taking away a payoff for an enabler runs the risk of having alot of mana but nothing to spend it on, but i noticed my deck was having a bit of trouble getting off the ground.

hkhssweiss on Bloodstone Circle

2 weeks ago

Yo GhostChieftain~

Sweet deck, I used to pilot Karador as well as another one akin to my Teneb, albeit I went more dredge based route and used Hermit Druid as an enabler. I feel this resonance as your story is similar to my background story haha. Kindred Abzan souls yeeeeeeeeet boi.

Some recommendations that you may want to try out as they have been useful to me are:

Those would be some cards I would suggest to try out.

All in all feel free to chat and discuss deck strats and what not!~ Happy Magicking!

SharpRaptor on Omnath: Locus of landfall & combos

2 weeks ago

Hi, I hope that at least some of what i'm going to put here will be useful, and even if you don't use any of my advice then maybe you will be able to see where I am coming from and use the logic to find your own improvements :)

Ramp

As the previous commenter has suggested the amount of ramp spells that put lands in to play in your deck is a bit to low for a ramp deck especially one that has subthemes of landfall. Typical commander deck building suggestions say that you should have 10 pieces of ramp to tide you into the midgame. This goes for any deck, not just ramp decks. In ramp decks you will want more. At my count you have 12 ramp cards that are reusable (ie, aren't the one shot sacrifice elemntals) this will want to be more really, with a focus on them being ones that put lands in to play. Another of note, is that cards like Zendikar Resurgent don't really count as a ramp slot, as by the time we can cast it, we have a lot of mana already. 'Ramp' cards are ones that you want to see in your opening hand to get you into your game plan faster.

For this reason I would look into replacing some of the creature based ramp and some other low impact cards with this ramp that will get us executing our main game plan faster and better.

These can all be easily replaced with land based ramp spells as they don't get you any further ahead on mana than 1 land, or are one shot abilities when we want to be dropping big things multiple times over multiple turns.

Smokebraider Is unique because it produces 2 mana for only 2 investment, but only if we focus in on elemtals so can be left on a short list to be evaluated. We'll list other potential cuts later when looking at more over all deck evaluation.

The previous commentor has provided a list which at first glance seems to be comprehensive enough to provide some ideas for what to add.

Removal

More conventional commander wisdom suggests that you have at least 5 ways to directly interact with your opponents game plan. I personally nearly always play more than this, but you should have at least 5. This direct interaction is preferred to be the targetted simgle response cards that can remove threats in any shape or form. Of note, this removal count is seperate from the count of mass removal. At my count you have Song of the Dryads , the down tick of Domri, Anarch of Bolas and Ingot Chewer as easily accessable removal. Things like the trigger from your commander or things like Magmatic Force are more incedental as you can't rely on them doing what you want when you need it.

Cards that could be added in this slot are many. But it is a good idea to have as many as you can being generic answers to anything, but also you need to make sure that they are ones you can realistically weave into your game plan instead of leaving up those answers at all times. This is mostly a balncing act that is where fine tuning comes in from playing the deck. But potential recommendations for all purpose would be Beast Within and Chaos Warp . After that they become more specific but can be cheaper in mana,

Wrath

This may seem counterintuitive, seen as you are planning on being the big creature deck that wants the board presence. But sometimes the opponents boards just need answering (Not to mention that you might end up getting a lot of elemental death triggers from Omnath). As such having 2 or 3 creature wraths might be worth trying. And having 2 or 3 artifact and enchantment wraths will be good to have access to aswell. Something you already have so I assume you already know.

Creature wraths to consider in green red include

You already have the cards for mass removing artifacts and enchantments so I won't bother listing any more.

Card Draw

One of the most common recommendations I have to make to people about their deck is to up the amount of card draw or selection in their decks. There is no point in having sweet cards and synergies in here if we never get to see them! Normally I recommend having 10 ways of drawing cards in your deck, with some of them being repeating and some being one shot. At my count you currently have 7 (Or 8 if you count Praetor's Counsel which can do effectively a similar job), so you are nearly there but I would recommend adding a couple mr just to smooth out the deck running.

  • Harmonize is the most obvious recommendation withit being notorious for its colour pie break with not haveing a restriction based on creatures or similar.
  • Horn of Greed is universal, but we should be getting more value from it.
  • Greater Good is amazing if you keep having big creatures to sacrifice. Thankfully due to our commander triggers, we do!
  • Chandra, Flamecaller can cover multiple bases of what we need, it can be counted as both a wrath AND a card draw engine :) IT also even makes elementals (of note, they get exiled at end step instead of dieing so you won't normally get Omnath triggers. Sacrificing them to Greater Good though....... )
  • Rishkar's Expertise can be great card draw as you don't need to take a full turn off to refuel, you still get to cast something that costs less, which could be that removal spell or something you needed!

These overview sections are recommendations for generic cards that could go in. From here on, we will be looking at more specific card options, and possible cuts from the existing deck

Deck Applications

Now, again as the previous commentor mentioned, there are multiple ways you can take an Omnath deck. My take on them being

  • RG Big thing Ramp. No specific synergies in mind except for incidental ones like, I need land to cast my big spells, and this card cards about land. Not a bad deck by any means, just less commander or theme focused.
  • Elemental Tribal Ramp. This seems to be closer to what you are currently going for. Similar to the RG ramp deck, just with tribal synergies from elementals
  • Landfall / Lands Matter. Here we are focusing on many landfall triggers, and keep cycling our lands round and round to get them. This deck will likke having access to things like Crucible of Worlds and many effects like Exploration

Here, i will suggest some cards for each of them and maybe later on if you want we could look more into one or a mix of these strategies.

RG Ramp

  • Ruric Thar, the Unbowed This card is very very powerful. Expecially as the decks around you get more and more powerful and wanting to do more combo and storm bsaed strategies.
  • Gruul Ragebeast A good way of keeping the board under control when you play your 'large and incharge' creatures
  • Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger We have mana, they don't. Enough said really. Just beware that with this creature, sometines the adage If you can't remove the problem, remove the player can be applied to just killing you.

Elemental Ramp

Other than ones recommended here, perhaps a good idea would be to use Gatherer or mtg.wtf to find elementals in your colour. Or cards which reference elementals in your colours, the example in wtf would be this

  • Chandra, Acolyte of Flame can rebuy your ramp spells and can make elementals that will die to trigger Omnath.
  • Chandra, Awakened Inferno A wrath that doesn't kill elementals and can provide a reasonable clock on the game with her uptick.
  • Omnath, Locus of Mana Store mana for a rainy day. Or for hitting your opponents upside the head with it. Both work.
  • Parallel Lives Double the tokens, double the elementals, double the damage. We like.
  • Tornado Elemental clears out any things like Dragons, or Flying Slivers or similar. Also good at picking of planeswalkers as it has sudo unblockable.
  • Liege of the Tangle we can go REALLY all in on making all our lands elementals and meaning that if someone wraths us we can basically kill everyone from Omnath triggers
  • Budoka Gardener Ramp early game, big guys late game.

Lands Matter

This deck idea might have elements that are closer to a combo deck than the others, but will still mostly be a midrange deck.

Possible Cuts

Cutting Criteria

I won't re-list the cuts recommeneded in the ramp section. I will be evaluating cuts in the assumption that the deck is wanting to be a combination of an elementals ramp deck and a lands value deck. A lot of these recomendations for cuts will have very similar reasonings, which I will elaborate on first to be able to be brief later on. These recommendations will possibly sound rather brutal, however I find that it makes it a lot easier to have too many cards that are on the cutting block rather than not enough.

  • Too Slow. If the card takes too many turns to start pulling its weight then it could be replaced with something that does what we need sooner. This is common in cards which have 'at the beginning of your upkeep' effects as they will normally have to wait an entire turn cycle to start doing something. Enters the battlefield triggers or similar things that have an effect the turn you play them are often preferred.
  • Too expensive. This should be self explanatory. If the card costs too much mana, especially if the same effect can be achieved for less mana then it should be exmined.
  • Doesn't do enough. While the effect might be interesting and maybe something we actually want in the deck, The card just doesn't pull its weight in whatever role it is supposed to be doing
  • Doesn't contribute to our game plan This might be a good card, maybe even a great card in other decks. But perhaps the effect just isn't one we need in this deck

Cards

Creatures

  • Cytoplast Root-Kin Too slow. Doesn't contribute to our game plan.
  • Dragonmaster Outcast Too slow. Doesn't do enough
  • Grazing Gladehart Doesn't do enough. While we like landfall triggers. The life gain is small enough to be negligable unless we are massrecycling all lands from our yard multiple times.
  • Magmatic Force Too Slow.
  • Magmaw Doens't contribute to our game plan / Doesn't Do enough. We can run other sac outlets if we want ways to sacrifice our elementals
  • Scute Mob Possibly too slow. But I love me a scute mob so I'm fine with this staying in :D
  • Spawnwrithe Doesn't do enough. However this one can stay in if you have found that you realistically get to connect with it at least twice to have four of them
  • Tendershoot Dryad Doesn't contribute to our game plan. Though it is very good at gummin gup the board
  • Tyrant of Discord Doesn't do enough. However if you change to having some ways to knock your opponents off of lands then the chances of this hitting multiple nonlands go up and its value does too. However there are enough control players where the onlything this will do is destroy a land at random
  • Undergrowth Champion Deosn't do enough. It's got all the right keywords but thats about it

Enchantments

  • Retreat to Kazandu Doesn't do enough. THe landfall idea is good, but putting 1 counter an a guy once or so a turn isn't worth the slot really

Artifact

  • Sword of the Animist Too Slow. We want this effect, but we aren't attacking multiple times in one turn so there are better effects to get lands from our deck. We don't neccessarily even have than many small creatures to equip this too to get it active early enough for the ramp to be that useful as ramp

Sorcery

  • Animist's Awakening As much as i want this spell to ever be good. It's just not really at all.
  • Journey of Discovery Too slow. For this to be actual search out ramp you need to entwine it which is then 6 mana. Any of the 4 mana double basics would be better here. Or just Explore type effects that cantrip too.

Planeswalker

Turns out there is only slightly too much Nissa. (And not enough Chandra ;) ) All of the Nissas' contribute to our gameplan well except for Nissa, Voice of Zendikar . The general rule of Planeswalkers in commander is to assume that you will only get two activations if you are lucky. So with this one you will at best buff your team a little. Consider Garruk Wildspeaker instead maybe?

Other random Card Recommendations

Closing

Well I hope some of this helped at least a little :)

SharpRaptor

Shabompistan on Arti-fack You

2 weeks ago

Thanks for the comment Daedalus19876.

Sphere of Resistance , Damping Sphere , and possibly Null Rod are hard yes. I was thinking about maybe a Pithing Needle too so I can shut down the combos I know.

This deck originally was a Surrak Dragonclaw deck, and I initially took out Bane of Progress because the deck did not ramp good enough into 6 drops... but now that I have Animar, I will be adding him back in.

As for the other artifact hate spells, I heavily favored instant speed spells which is why I did not add Vandalblast , but it is on the top of my add list if I feel like I need more artifact removal.

I like Force of Vigor a lot, it is on my list, but I'm waiting to see if the price of the card will go down in time.

I looked up all the infinite combos that are commonly run with Animar for win cons, but I can pretty much only do Ancestral Statue for budget reasons. I don't feel comfortable dumping a bunch of money into a niche deck.

Daedalus19876 on Arti-fack You

3 weeks ago

Hello. Context, I play cEDH artifact combo, so I know how to Dismember it.

I know that the deck hates artifacts, but I might still run Null Rod as backup for Ouphe, as well as Sphere of Resistance or Damping Sphere (which brutally shut down a lot of cEDH-style lists). I'm surprised there's no Bane of Progress here. Beyond that, Force of Vigor , Pulverize , Vandalblast , and By Force can do good work in this sort of list :)

My first cuts would be Polukranos, World Eater and Sagu Mauler , I'd say. With Animar, you have access to a lot of good combos, such as Ancestral Statue -- why not include that, to instantly kick Animar to infinite power and start swinging with your commander as a wincon? A friend of mine has a Voltron Animar list that might help you find an unorthodox wincon:


O Seed of Creation [Animar Voltron EDH]

Commander / EDH* eleutheria_has_won

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