Ad Nauseam


Reveal the top card of your library and put that card into your hand. You lose life equal to its converted mana cost. You may repeat this process any number of times.

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Ad Nauseam Discussion

Dunadain on [List - Multiplayer] EDH Generals by Tier

2 days ago

So... today for Lulz I played ANT Sidisi but replaced Sidisi with Kokusho. I made it as a joke but my playgroup stopped laughing after I won G1 T3, G2 T2. Coincidence to be sure but I've been working on a list and I think Kokusho should be moved to T2.5 or even T2

Kokusho, all the life

Commander / EDH Dunadain


obviously you have to run more tutors for Ad Nauseam but being able to reanimate Kokusho a few times to recast Ad Nauseam off of Yawgmoth's Will while Simultaneously lowering the demands on Tendrils of Agony and Exsanguinate is pretty sweet. I even managed to win just by reanimating Kokusho enough a few times.

ooop333 on Wait, WTF just happened?!!(Turn six win)

1 week ago

Dark Ritual, Cabal Ritual, Mana Vault

maybe put in Mindcrank combos as a backup win condition if you need them. they're pretty low-cost, your Ad Nauseam won't kill you.

illumfolly on Shirei is Love, Shirei is Life

1 week ago

Hey thanks --

Here's thoughts:

The winning combos are reanimation loops + a drain:

Phyrexian Altar + Nether Traitor + Pawn of Ulamog or Living Death + Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed + Phyrexian Altar

Mikaeus, the Unhallowed is 100% nonbo (non-Humans get +1/+1) -- and Triskelion is incredibly slow in Shirei, but definitely will consider adding this

Bloodghast is inconsistent -- will cut.

Bloodthrone Vampire gives an instant speed, repeatable sac outlet that can sac itself to its own ability, so its main purpose is death triggers -- but, it's on the chopping block

Crypt Rats is a holdover from decks that run Darksteel Plate, will cut

Deathgreeter -- will cut

Disciple of Phenax -- targetted discard on every turn? on the chopping block

Falkenrath Noble -- will cut

Hell's Caretaker -- extremely valuable, but on the chopping block.. it is grindy

Dark Prophecy --> Necropotence

Infernal Darkness -- will re-add

Vampiric Rites -- m8, this card is bad. but i'll add it to maybe

Mindslicer -- will re-add

Mesmeric Orb -- I might consider this as a way to set up a living death loop

Ad Nauseam -- eh, sure, why not, it's a great card.

Westvale Abbey  Flip is so fun. I had trouble making it work with other decks, but this deck seems right for it.

Wasteland I could probably find room for, always need to destroy pesky lands.

Inventors' Fair is a good idea for this deck. I always need one of the altars.

Liliana, Heretical Healer  Flip reanimates little doods. Incredibly valuable! But on the chopping block.

Toxic Deluge -- will re-add

sonnet666 on Shirei is Love, Shirei is Life

1 week ago


Cut -- Abyssal Gatekeeper (unlike Fleshbag and Co, this can hurt more than it helps since it isn't around to feed itself) Bloodghast (no real advantage with Shirei, and is inconsistent as redundancy), Bloodthrone Vampire (doesn't offer you anything for feeding it), Coffin Queen (better with high cost ETBs), Crypt Rats (doesn't function with your commander), Deathgreeter (life gain is pointless), Disciple of Phenax, Falkenrath Noble, Hell's Caretaker (too grindy).

Add --, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, Triskelion, Reanimate, Necropotence, Animate Dead, Grim Tutor, Imperial Seal, Vampiric Rites, Infernal Darkness.

Also consider, Dance of the Dead, Mindslicer (you only need to sac this once with a draw engine and you've basically won), Toxic Deluge, Mesmeric Orb (most efficient yard filler ever), and Ad Nauseam.

You could also safely cut some of the 0 mana creatures since they don't really do anything, Liliana, Heretical Healer  Flip, and Dark Prophecy (you already have a lot of draw, and this can actually kill you if you have a slow or unclear path to victory).

Some additional lands to consider: Inventors' Fair, you have enough artifacts to satisfy it, and it tutors some of your most needed cards; Westvale Abbey  Flip can get you out of a jam if you pay too much life; and Wasteland/Tectonic Edge/Dust Bowl help you play a little more into Crucible of Worlds.

xantm70 on Nauseous Drawseous

2 weeks ago

Along with Delay (which yeah, great call buildingadeck), I'd sooner run Ertai's Meddling or Unsubstantiate before Flashfreeze--my meta just doesn't have enough must-answer cards in green or red; the real killer is usually black. Negate, meanwhile, doesn't stop the must-answer creatures I really care about, and I'm leery of it.

Definitely interested in Elves of Deep Shadow over specifically Boreal Druid; for the time being, my one reservation is that every single point of life loss impacts my gains from Ad Nauseam. I'll want to do plenty of testing with each in that slot before I commit either way.

Specifically at theauthentic, this deck can't justify ETB-tapped lands, outside the possible exceptions of Boseiju, Who Shelters All and Bojuka Bog (and even those are maybes): I have to Win The Game Fast. In a slower style of deck (stax, hard control, battlecruiser), I'll very frequently run the karoos and other strong utility lands that don't tap right away, but I don't have that luxury in fast combo. A manland doesn't advance my gameplan (I don't care about the combat step) and could literally be the difference between winning and losing.

Regarding Mental Misstep: Yes. V good. Want can haz.

Kjartan on I'll just draw my whole library and go down to one

2 weeks ago

With Ad Nauseam + Angel's Grace you don't actually go to 1.

You go to a negative lifetotal, (most likely).

Rarian on Zur Ad Nauseam Storm

2 weeks ago

Hello there, I love this list :) it seems really cool and I higly prefer it to traditional lists focused only on DD. I got some questions, though.

  1. What made you cut Phyrexian Unlife and Etherium Sculptor? You mention them in a description a few times but I don't see them in a decklist.

  2. Why no Isochron Scepter? With Reversal it goes both infinite with storm count and infinite with mana. I guess in this list it may be a win-more but have you ever tested it :)?

  3. Have you ever tested Paradoxical Outcome? After drawing 25+ cards with necro and casting myr it may simply draw you another half of the deck :D it sometimes work as combined AN and recall/chain. I'm currently playing this storm deck - Rashmi, Crafter of Masterpiece (Paradoxical Storm) built around Paradox Engine and I just adore this card. I don't have the access to black and Ad Nauseam. Maybe in Zur it's just another "win more" but it seems fine on paper. Both legacy and vintage use this card in storm decks, though.

Anyway I love this list. You have my upvote and I will follow it and see what changes will be made :).

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