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Ad Nauseam Discussion
1 week ago
Sure. Setting up the win con is easy with so many tutors (intuition is THE best tutor here IMO). Leyline and vedalkan orrery are to expensive and slow but quicken might be test worthy. I will include a win cons step in my breakdown section (which is a WIP for now). Doomsday is one of the quickest ways to set up a lab man win so long as you have a cantrip in hand. here is a brief primer to doomsday piles. Necropotence has a multitude of uses but I guess the simpelest comparison would be to Ad Nauseam. It is a way to dig closer to your win con.
Feel free to keep commenting suggestions/questions/primer suggestions.
1 week ago
1 week ago
Well first for the good news. You got most of the expensive cards out of the way, so that's good. Te thing is that this is both an Ad Nauseam deck and not an Ad Nauseam deck and its not a storm deck in its current state. So if you wanted to lean into both Ad Nauseam and storm (which I think you should) You would need to remove a bunch of the spells that cost more than 3 mana and include some free spells and other large instant speed card advantage spells. These are the staples of storm decks. It isn't flash, it isnt Tendrils of Agony, its cards that help you cast many spells.
Cards that Need to go. Deadeye Navigator, Mulldrifter, Dig Through Time, Gush-unless you add Doomsday which you should, Future Sight, Leyline of Anticipation, Rhystic Study-its way too slow for this strategy, Tendrils of Agony, Treasure Cruise, Gilded Lotus, Vedalken Orrery, and Tezzeret the Seeker
Other cards that should be though about hard before including.
Guttersnipe, Peregrine Drake, all the red rituals-do you really have enough red to make use of them?, Turnabout-its expensive for the effect and usually there are better choices, Same for Paradoxical Outcome, without all the expensive cards As Foretold will probably be very lackluster when it comes out especially since you are trying to win fast, Past in Flames is the last one, it's very expensive when you have access to Yawgmoth's Will and usually 1 of these effects is good enough.
Now I have some suggestions on replacements. Helm of Awakening would be great for Mind's Desire and Hurkyl's Recall. It allows all of your 2 drop signets and talismans to be mana neutral which allows you to build massive storm counts. It also turns cards like Snap and Frantic Search mana positive. Speaking of that put in all 3 signets and both the talismans. Then add some card advantage, cards like Thirst for Knowledge and Fact or Fiction and Night's Whisper are far better than Rhystic Study. With all the untapping of lands a High Tide package would be good but you would need to add like 6-9 more islands but its very worth it. I have been play testing with Into the Roil and Remand as well. I find them to be super good at raising my storm count when I use them on my own spells/permanents. The last bit of advice I have is change Faithless Looting into a Dack Fayden. He combos super well with Notion Thief and can help you ramp.
1 week ago
Storm isn't a format that lends itself to "budget" very well. Unfortunatly with Kess your graveyard isn't another hand because you only get 1 extra spell a turn from it. That's nice but not enough gas for storm. What are the storm aspects of this deck exactly? Just putting a bunch of spells with the storm mechanic in doesn't make a storm deck. You need big card advantage spells and rituals. You arn't running nearly enough islands for High Tide to be effective and the win cards like Grapeshot and Tendrils of Agony are just dead most of the game until you try to win. The only good "cards right now spell" you have is Ad Nauseam. Blue Sun's Zenith and Pull from Tomorrow are just weak until you have your Isochron Scepter combo. Maybe add another infinite mana combo or take them out. What about Fact or Fiction? Why isn't Windfall in there? you also don't have enough artifacts for Mox Opal. Get a Mana Crypt, Lotus Petal, Mana Vault and maybe Helm of Awakening at minimum. Without Helm of Awakening Hurkyl's Recall is pretty pointless. Also I bet Blasphemous Act is fun to hit off Ad Nauseam
1 week ago
Oh man I have some advice on this deck if you would like to hear it. I have been playing storm exclusively for a few years now and I think with some changes this deck could get nasty. The thing is they would be some fairly large changes. However there are some glaring cards that don't belong in an Ad Nauseam deck, Dig Through Time and Treasure Cruise are the biggest offenders. If you would like some more advice let me know however you have the core of a really good storm deck. Your talking about turn 10-15 but you could win consistently with protection on turn 3-5.
2 weeks ago
So here is some hopefully useful data about my experience (25 or so games) with the updated list:
Notion Thief + Winds of Change/any other wheel effect: has been decent but fragile and I rarely ever want to tutor for one of these. Winds of Change in particular has been incredibly bad when I did not have the Notion Thief or if it was not cast post Ad Nauseam to mix up my hand. This is to be expected but I am still not sold on this card. For now, I will continue testing it to see if my opinion changes.
I still think this combo needs some more redundancy in case Notion Thief gets hit by removal or is taken by a Praetor's Grasp effect. If only Leovold, Emissary of Trest wasn't banned. The removal spell problem happens a lot considering this deck does not run a lot of relevant creatures to remove so I have noticed a lot of the time the rest of the table ends up "stockpiling" on creature removal. I can usually Force of Will my way through one or even two, but when there are 4+ removal spells that have been dead against our deck the whole game finally being useful again, it is hard to get this combo to work.
Tormod's Crypt: even with a bunch of graveyard decks floating around my meta, I have been incredibly disappointed by this. Although it is good as a free untap after a Paradox Engine, I would almost always prefer another source of acceleration or at least a card that cycles upon use. Relic of Progenitus is bad because it hits our own graveyard so I recommend Nihil Spellbomb. I feel the 1 extra mana is entirely justified because it can replace itself when it is not needed or to keep you up on resources if it is needed.
Llanowar Elves: I understand why turn 1 acceleration is important, but this card has been terrible for me in testing. Green mana is almost always irrelevant so it might as well just make colorless and mana dorks are mediocre on Paradox Engine lines because they are far more vulnerable to removal and cannot be used the turn I play them. If this was a more dedicated mana dork deck that could abuse Gaea's Cradle, I would like it far more, but I am not a fan. I would at least consider Candelabra of Tawnos as a potential replacement due to how good it is on Paradox Engine lines to just filter away the abyss of colorless mana we make into actually relevant mana. Candelabra of Tawnos can also help you fight through Back to Basics effects which are incredibly good against this deck (and have picked up in popularity since all of the 4 color flash+hulk decks took over).
Dark Petition: I finally actually had some good experience with this card and I do believe it is better than Fabricate. Although the 5cmc hurts on Ad Nauseam lines, the explosiveness of this card on Necropotence/Yawgmoth's Will lines is very good. Not a fan of it for Notion Thief/Wheel of Fortune lines considering the BBB is not particularly relevant but it is at least reasonable.
2 weeks ago
Those are the best 3 cards in storm, any reason you have none of these?
2 weeks ago
I assume this is the deck that you were talking about that the competitive bar is not in sync with your opinions of what the deck does. The average cmc of this deck is 4.23 whereas the average cmc of a competitive deck is somewhere between 1.5 and 3. Moreover, you have little to no instant speed interaction, none of which are counterspells to stop Ad Nauseam or the other major game-ending spells found in competitive edh, and your two boardwipes for creature based metas cost 5 and 6 cmc in a deck with only 8 ramp spells. In general, the deck does not pack the proper interaction nor have the speed to compete with a competitive edh pod. It is, however, a fun 5 color tribal deck with what looks like a great arsenal of powerful dragons. :)