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Vizier of Remedies
Creature — Human Cleric
If one or more -1/-1 counters would be put on a creature you control, that many -1/-1 counters minus one are put on it instead.
Vizier of Remedies Discussion
4 days ago
3 weeks ago
shadowmage I think I might try Mirror Entity again; I like how it also can protect against Toxic Deluge , and if I do I'll try the Ranger-Captain as well. I'll test the Devoted Druid combo, I'm just concerned with Vizier of Remedies being a dead card without the druid. I do like the idea of cards like Uncage the Menagerie being able to tutor for both combo pieces though.
Also, just a suggestion, but Selvala, Heart of the Wilds works similarly to Marwyn, the Nurturer and Viridian Joiner for the purposes of Umbral Mantle , if you want a third copy of that effect in your deck (I'm not playing that or the joiner, but that's just because they are only mediocre without the mantle, and I like having a good average card quality).
3 weeks ago
I might cut City of Solitude sometime, but Dosan is good because it allows Green Sun's Zenith to find a Grand Abolisher type effect. Also, I always decline to cast these symmetric effects if I don't plan on winning that turn, so they aren't that risky. I haven't tried Ranger-Captain of Eos yet, but I didn't think it was good in this build because it is a single-use effect and it doesn't tutor for any important creatures. Grand Abolisher was also already in the deck (obviously; it's great).
I took a look at your list, and I think it's good as well, but there are still a few cards that I wouldn't play in my list (for my own purposes, not to suggest that you shouldn't play them):
- Angel's Grace is unnecessary. Because of Green Sun's Zenith , the infinite mill wincon with Selvala is already possible, and in my testing, Angel's Grace was always a dead card.
- I've considered Heroic Intervention , but my biggest problem with it is that it doesn't stop the most common board wipe in cEDH, Toxic Deluge . I still might try it sometime though.
- Devoted Druid and Vizier of Remedies , while being an infinite mana combo, doesn't actually win the game on the spot with this deck; it needs an infinite mana outlet (like Walking Ballista ), and part of the compactness of the combos in this deck is how each can immediately win the game with Selvala on the battlefield.
I could talk about these decks forever, so those are just the main points. Anyway, thanks for the feedback!
4 weeks ago
Wow! Okay! It's been a minute since I've been able to sit down with this page, so I'll just respond to everyone in one comment. Life has kept me busy.
Hmmm...it could be good for pulling out Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth but otherwise would be a bit slow in the ramp package.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope has too high a cmc to be considered here. If I want to add to Grand Abolisher , I'd rather go with Silence , Autumn's Veil , or Veil of Summer . Those might be good additions if I can find cuts. The thing Abolisher has going for him is he's a creature with 2 cmc, so he's easily tutorable. I also find Anafenza, the Foremost to be lacking. She'd be good graveyard hate, but that's about it. Her +1/+1 counter ability is too narrow.
Thanks! I hope it's been of some use to you!
Mikaeus, the Unhallowed gives non-human creatures +1/+1, so Ballista won't die from having no counters left. We either need a sac outlet to kill it or a Blood Artist to take advantage from it dying when we use the counter to ping itself.
I like Vizier of Remedies especially with Devoted Druid , but the problem is it doesn't combo outside of the persist creatures. Cards like Good-Fortune Unicorn and Bloodspore Thrinax will combo with persist creatures AND Ghave. We're going for combo synergy here, so it's best for the combo pieces to be as modal as possible. I really don't like Melira, Sylvok Outcast for that reason. She only combos with persist creatures and nothing else. Yes she protects against infect, but that's hardly ever a problem. Green Sun's Zenith is in the Maybeboard. But it might just stay there for now since Finale of Devastation is better thanks to it being able to pull from the graveyard as well.
How many of those combo pieces also combo with other cards in the deck? It's nice to have more combos, but we want a card to be able to combo in multiple different lines. I probably won't ever run Sun Titan due to cmc. If I'm paying 6 mana, I'd rather have Mikaeus, the Unhallowed since he combos with more cards. Renegade Rallier is good with Saffi Eriksdotter , but he doesn't work with Karmic Guide or Reveillark . I know Fiend Hunter is a common combo piece in decks running Karmic, but I don't know that he has a place here. These combos are nice, but they need to be relevant outside of these lines as well to make them worth a slot in the deck. Thanks for the suggestions!
1 month ago
Also, what do you think about Vizier of Remedies and Green Sun's Zenith . Vizier goes infinite with any persist creature and a sac outlet, aswell as with Devoted Druid , and Green Sun's Zenith is just another tutor. Melira, Sylvok Outcast works just the same way as vizier
1 month ago
So I was surprised to see Vizier of Remedies and not Melira, Sylvok Outcast . In that same vein, I am not sure about the -1/-1 counter synergies ( Flourishing Defenses ), especially if you double down on preventing -1/-1 counters like my last sentence. I think I would rather see Inspiring Call in that slot, or at least in the deck somewhere. I see 28 non-token creatures in the deck 29 with Ghave. Perhaps Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit could be a Juniper Order Ranger and Prowess of the Fair could be a Woodfall Primus . Lastly, I see an infinite combo with Devoted Druid , Ghave, Guru of Spores , and Vizier of Remedies and that you have Blood Artist , perhaps you could run Zulaport Cutthroat or Corpse Knight to work with that aspect.
That said I like where you are going with the deck. I am always a giant proponent of removal and of course feel there could be more, but I have made enough suggestions for now.
1 month ago
If Vizier of Remedies Viscera Seer and Wall of Omens Are in play and I cast Cauldron Haze with Wall of Omens as the target can I continually sacrifice it to Viscera for Scry and Draw since it has persist until end of turn?
1 month ago
Looks like a fun deck!
Dawn of Hope could be a good card-draw outlet with your commander. Can also help you generate tokens in the late game.
Martial Coup could be a good board-wipe/token factory.
Hope this helps!
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