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Creature — Elf Druid
Other Elf creatures you control get +1/+1.
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Elvish Archdruid Discussion
7 hours ago
Thank-you, Bulldawg1310 - I've actually played several versions of this deck with those cards. I originally replaced Chord with Elvish Visionary and CoCo with Sylvan Messenger because mana for casting was rarely a concern, and I often got a better overall benefit. Its not uncommon for me to get three, four or even five creatures in play with Sylvan Messenger as opposed to the two CoCo might get me, but that only works reliably when I don't weigh the deck down with non-elf cards.
Throne of the God-Pharaoh is the one card I might consider lifting my 'all-elves' rule for this deck, but its definitely an option I'm aware of - that's why I asked in the forums to please not get away from the deck concept as it is... I'm looking for potentially better elvish options, not the same card suggestions that pretty much everybody is already using.
The whole point of the deck is that going with elves who do useful things - even if its not quite as perfectly done as other cards might - accelerates the entire deck in a more efficient manner; Heritage Druid, Immaculate Magistrate, Elvish Archdruid, Shaman of the Pack all work better with more elves on the board.
8 hours ago
The Channeler Initiate and Drover of the Mighty are in because this list is super super light on lands, which means that we need to make up for it in some of the nonland ramp. Tapping for multiple colors is more important here than the elf typing, though I might add in things like Wirewood Elf and Leaf Gilder sometime.
The Elvish Visionary change is actually somewhat recent, and I haven't updated it here yet. As it stands, since we have Heart Warden as our wincon of choice, I'd probably swap out Elvish Visionary for another ramp piece.
Lys Alana Huntmaster was the old Hackball wincon before we discovered Phantasmal Image, It's cheaper, and thus might be fine if you can't afford Phantasmal, but I'd greatly prefer Phantasmal Image due to its usefulness earlier in the combo turn. If you can't afford Phantasmal, a better option might be Altered Ego.
Finally, the 3 mana ramp pieces like Elvish Guidance and Elvish Archdruid aren't in because our 5 mana need can be met with 2 dorks and 3 lands. This means stuff like a 1cmc dork plus a 2cmc dork, plus 3 lands, would get us to 5 mana just as easily as a 1cmc dork and Marwyn, for instance. Thus, this list will stick to the cheaper forms of ramp, since they add up easier.
10 hours ago
A lot of the cards in the deck seem to be leftovers from Multani when Marwyn really wants to be an Elf deck, of which you're not really running enough.
Umbral Mantle + Marwyn makes infinite mana. Spend 0 to equip, tap Marwyn for 1, untap her by paying 2 additional mana from other sources, and then tap her for 3, then pay that 3 to untap her again, and now she taps for 5. You'll net gain X + 2 mana every iteration of this loop.
Staff of Domination is expensive but worth it. Once Marwyn taps for 6 mana (which is as simple as casting some Elves), you can generate infinite mana, draw as many cards as you want, and gain as much life as you like.
For your creatures, you need to run Boreal Druid, Fyndhorn Elves, maybe even Joraga Treespeaker. In the case of the former two, they let you cast Marwyn on turn 2, instead of 3. Your ramp should be aiming to put her down t2, and if it costs 4 or more mana to ramp you should drop it. Animist's Awakening, Cultivate, Grow from the Ashes, Harvest Season, Hour of Promise, Kamahl's Druidic Vow (you have a whopping 3 legendary permanents in this deck), Kodama's Reach, Map the Wastes, and even Splendid Reclamation (unless you're playing against land destruction, otherwise it's an extremely blank card), and Tempt with Discovery. You don't need land cards in your hand anymore; this isn't Multani. Adventurous Impulse can go too. Replace all of these cards with Elves or cards that produce Elves- Imperious Perfect, Elvish Champion, Farhaven Elf, Arbor Elf, Elvish Harbinger, Boreal Druid, Fyndhorn Elves, Elvish Archdruid, Priest of Titania, Elvish Visionary, Fierce Empath, Immaculate Magistrate, Joraga Warcaller, Wirewood Channeler, Nullmage Shepherd, Lys Alana Huntmaster and more, are just some of the cards you could add. The Elf lords are important, but make sure you run every 1 drop Elf that taps for mana (and if you want to go full elfball with it, run Heritage Druid as she enables absurd plays with the right starting hands). Heck, even Dwynen's Elite isn't bad here since it's +2/+2 to Marwyn when they enter play.
Bottom line is: Marwyn wants Elves to enter play in order to grow. If you run few Elves, she won't grow very much.
So, you add more Elves and now Marwyn can tap for boatloads of mana by turns 5-6, so what do you do with that mana? Genesis Wave, Slate of Ancestry, and Ezuri, Renegade Leader make solid mana sinks. Similarly, Yisan, the Wanderer Bard and Skyshroud Poacher give you something to do with your oodles of mana too. You could add more tutors and draw (Chord of Calling is a personal favorite but there are cheaper options).
Instead of Hour of Promise, you could use Sylvan Scrying to find something like Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, but if you're not going to be running Nykthos then either card is pretty mediocre so I wouldn't bother with it.
Aerial predation is cute, but Beast Within kills whatever and a 3/3 token hardly matters in a format with 40 life.
Ancient Animus is also cute, but it's heavily reliant upon your board position (IE, you already have to be 'winning' in order for Animus to do anything), whereas Song of the Dryads turns someone's Commander into a tree and, unless they have something that lets them sacrifice a land, they can get stuck without their Commander for a whole game. It's one of the best removals in green, truthfully.
Blossoming Defense gives you 2 extra mana out of Marwyn, but you could just cast Elves to get that instead. Heroic Intervention saves your whole board state from board wipes at only 1 mana more, which seems like the stronger inclusion.
All of those buffing equipment cards can probably go, too. Blackblade Reforged/Strata Scythe is adorable, but why use that when Coat of Arms is a thing? On another note, Thousand-Year Elixir would oftentimes let you get as much, if not more, use out of Marwyn and other mana dorks by letting them tap the turn they come into play, not to mention untapping them.
Anyway, I know this is a lot of recommendations but I hope this helped. My wife's been playing Elfball with basically every possible Commander since 2013 so I've learned a lot about it while helping her tune her Elf deck.
2 days ago
Well since you are new i can kinda understand some things now (no offense :c)
first thing above all else. you need 60 cards in a deck. not over. Otherwise you already are in bad shape. Don't worry though when i started playing I had an eldrazi standard deck back in oath of the gatewatch being released. It had i think 79 cards in it with like 30 something lands. was very bad XD. It had good cards but it just was never consistent so finally my friend sat down with me and we trimmed it down to 60 and it became much more smoother and I started winning fnm shortly after :p.
So for getting down to 60, I would suggest you cut the elvish abberation because it just wont have as much use in modern as other things. Lich's Mirror is just a terrible card. All it should say is "you have 1 more turn to play a land and die". Since it wont reset opponent at all it will just draw it out for 1 more turn and waste time. Helix Pinnacle should go as well. unless you find a way to go infinite with mana, get rid of it. Cause it will probably take more than 10 turns to actually win if your lucky and modern games usually end at about turn 9 or before. Immaculate Magistrate is a good card but it shouldn't be used in modern. If your gonna play something like elves, you want multiple explosive creatures and not 1 big creature. Engulfing Slagwurm seems like a dead card for an elf deck. It has no other synergies with your other cards and its not an elf.
Sorry If I sound a little rude I know it sucks having someone say to take a bunch of cards out but trust me it will help big time.
So now that we are back to 60 cards, lets go over another thing that new players don't catch on to usually. If you want to have a good consistent deck, you will want to have 4 of and 3 of with cards so you can get the most out of it and be confident to play with it. Unless it is a legendary card then it just depends.
I would suggest getting rid of the other Engulfing Slagwurm and Ezuri's Archers. There are not a lot of flyers in todays modern meta unless you go up against like a jeskai aggro deck or something which is not that often.
Let us also get rid of the Coat of Arms and Door of Destinies. Even though it seems like a bad idea, if you really think about it then the cards are gonna be worthless. for instance, Coat of Arms is a good card, but what if you went up against goblins? or merfolk? or humans? or slivers? or allies? See where im getting at now? and with Door of Destinies by the time you cast it you will probably have all your elves cast or at least the majority of them.
Let us also get rid of 3 of the Elvish Promenade. I say keep 1 because it could still be useful in an elf deck, just not as a 4 of cause it won't win you the game. However it is a great utility. I would cast this as late as possible without having it be a dead card so you can get the most out of it. Or possibly more ramp for Elvish Archdruid. I would also get rid of Imperious Perfect and Lys Alana Huntmaster
So in total that takes out 14 cards, now lets fill it back in. 1 more of the Elvish Archdruid is a good start, having 3 is a strong way to ramp. 1 of each Elvish Mystic Llanowar Elves. Now lets add some cards. Dwynen's Elite is probably one of the most strong elf cards so I would strongly recommend get a 4 of and get 4 of Elvish Visionary. the visionary is another strong card considering how much mana elves get its basically a free 1/1 that draws :p. Nettle Sentinel is another great card so would get 3 of those. And with all that you should have a much more consistent (and better version) of elves.
Now later on if you get the money, I would also get some expensive stuff like Cavern of Souls, Verdant Catacombs and Wooded Foothills to thin out your lands so you can draw more of spells instead of lands. I would also swap out your Naya Soulbeast and Worldspine Wurm for 2 Craterhoof Behemoth because that is just game ending in elves. Would also get rid of the 2 Genesis Wave for 2 Chord of Calling. But this is when you get the money. Would also get some creatures like Heritage Druid and Ezuri, Renegade Leader
I hope this information will help you annihilate opponents and win all the FNM matches :D. If you want to see my version of elves I will post it down below. I decided to go golgari colors instead of mono green however but the basic things I told you here is also in there so you can see how it works out.
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5 days ago
Good news: I play what I want, too. Moving on.
One thing I see is that you have to many Hydras and not enough mana. I would recommend loosing Primordial Hydra, bring Polukranos, World Eater down to 1 copy, and not use Rishkar, Peema Renegade. You wouldn't want to be tapping huge Hydras for a piece. Consider going with a Elf mana core like Mystic elf, Elvish Archdruid and Priest of Titania. Switch out the 4xTreetop Village for 2xNykthos, Shrine to Nyx and 2xRogue's Passage. Also Genesis Wave (and Genesis Hydra)!
1 week ago
Elvish Archdruid would be a good addition to this deck. Great deck :)
1 week ago
this deck will be run over by any and all budget'ish modern deck. Way too many spells, and too many of them at high cost. Early Harvest? Won't be needed much, since you ramp on creatures, not on lands. Explore is a good card, if you have a bunch of lands... but you don't. You have 20. Spending turn 2 on paying 2 mana to play a land is not really a great idea - actually it's a terrible idea. It draws a card? Sure it does. But so does Elvish Visionary, which you haven't found space for. Cultivator of Blades is a 5 mana card in a deck that shouldn't go higher than 3 mana. And there's 4 of them. 1, at most, and that's because it becomes a SURPRIIIISEE!!! Wincon! Joraga Treespeaker is mostly a 3 mana Elvish Mystic - and that's only after you've spent time levelling it up. Isn't it better to just get the 1-mana dork, and avoid all the difficulties of upgrading.
I think the "mainstream" elves decks all use Heritage Druid, Nettle Sentinel, and Collected Company (all of them as 4-ofs) to get their creatures on the table fast. Elvish Archdruid and Ezuri, Renegade Leader provide the beatsticks to close the game. I also think there's a reason they all do so - it might just be the skeleton that allows elves to be a deck at all (a bit like 12 lords and aether vial is for merfolk).
1 week ago
you need to drastically cut down the number of cards with a mana cost of 4 or higher. the only spells that elves should be running that cost 4 or more are Collected Company and Chord of Calling. definitely add Elvish Archdruid.