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Creature — Elf Druid
Other Elf creatures you control get +1/+1.
: Add to your mana pool for each Elf you control.
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Elvish Archdruid Discussion
13 hours ago
If you go through the linked article he explains a lot of the wheres and whys, first develops it into elf deck, then a better deck with more money, then finally "take out the worst 15 elves and put these in" which is the land stuff.
Elves kept: Caller of the Claw; Elvish Archdruid; Elvish Harbinger; Essence Warden; Fierce Empath; Immaculate Magistrate; Imperious Perfect; Joraga Warcaller; Lys Alana Huntmaster; Oracle of Mul Daya; Wellwisher; Wren's Run Packmaster; Yeva, Nature's Herald.
Elves lost: Arbor Elf; Birchlore Rangers; Elvish Mystic; Elvish Visionary; Ezuri, Renegade Leader; Farhaven Elf; Heritage Druid; Joraga Treespeaker; Llanowar Elves; Priest of Titania; Reclamation Sage; Timberwatch Elf; Titania's Chosen; Wirewood Channeler; Wood Elves.
Collective Unconscious got kicked for Shamanic Revelation, and Swiftfoot Boots for Lightning Greaves, just personal preference. The fella was cost conscious so I added to the manabase (Gaea's Cradle, Wooded Foothills, Windswept Heath, Verdant Catacombs and Misty Rainforest (basically the Forest Fetchlands and Cradle).
1 day ago
Thanks so much for the feedback, I highly appreciate it!
I used to have Joraga Warcaller in the deck but after thinking about it, I realized if I'm kicking him once I'm better off playing Elvish Archdruid and getting a mana-generating elf also, kicked for two he is ok and kicked for three, I am better off playing Ezuri, Renegade Leader and activating his ability and giving my creatures trample for one extra mana. I initially considered Craterhoof Behemoth but I figured that I would probably be tapping out a lot of my creatures to play him anyway but I will certainly give Craterhoof Behemoth a chance. I agree that 2 copies of Ezuri, Renegade Leader might be a lot considering he is legendary, I used to have 4 copies of him and had some problems where I got stuck with two of him but I lowered it down to 3 and havn't had too many more problems. Typically when I am stuck with 2 Ezuri, Renegade Leader, unless I have close to no other elves, or for some reason very little mana (although his regenerate ability really helps with chump blocks if you are stuck in a bad situation), then having 2 Ezuri, Renegade Leader is not too too bad since he is the main win condition and if you have him out you have a good shot of winning the next turn.
I agree that Heroic Intervention would be good but the thing is that I typically side in 2 Chord of Calling to search up the other cards I side-boarded in. Selfless Spirit is good because if I have a Chord of Calling in my hand then I can keep 5 mana up for an instant speed save from a board sweeper. By having 1 Selfless Spirit instead of 3 or so Heroic Intervention then I can almost be just as protected from sweepers while only having one slot in my sideboard taken up by an anti-sweeper card.
18 lands are working fine, sometimes I do get a bit mana-flooded, 18 lands is pretty typical of a modern elf deck from what I have seen but maybe not in legacy? Would you reccommend trying to drop 2 lands, and if so what do you think I should add?
Why not run Pendelhaven though? Sure it isn't useful most of the time, but isn't the few times it is worth having 1 of the legendary land in the deck. Or is the threat of Blood Moon just not worth it?
I think cutting white completely is probably something I should do, Kataki, War's Wage is just so good against Affinity though with Chord of Calling, what could I replace it with? I agree my sideboard needs a bit of help, I do want to keep the Chord of Calling with hate-creatures theme in the sideboard because I think it works really well and is a less expected way for me to sideboard. My meta consists of mainly Affinity, Infect, Naya Burn, Dredge, Jund and 8-Rack, but I don't want to restrict my sideboard to be soley against those, I want to make sure my sideboard can handle other powerful modern decks too. What suggestions do you have for my sideboard? What should defenitely stay in? What really needs to come out? What cards would you reccommend for it in place of Kataki, War's Wage and Selfless Spirit keeping in mind that I have the 2 Chord of Calling in there?
1 day ago
Honestly, I have always been more of a fan of the flicker variant of elves in legacy which uses Wirewood Symbiote and Quirion Ranger, but Ezuri, Renegade Leader is hard to ignore. Since you are goinf for the more stompy version of elves have you considered Craterhoof Behemoth and/or Joraga Warcaller, to this day those are my favorite way to win with elves. The mainboard looks pretty solid, I would personally only run two Ezuri, Renegade Leader due to the legend rule but three works, and I would cut Pendelhaven all together. Pendelhaven is a great card but with elfball you will always be playing Elvish Archdruid hopefully and that just shuts off Pendelhaven, I would also cut the white you have altogether as you don't need it, the sideboard looks like it needs some work so if you give me an idea of what your meta is I can help there as the side seems a bit all over the place. Heroic Intervention was mentioned earlier and I agree it is a card you should consider.
Finally, I am just curious how 18 lands is working for you, generally with elfball I aim for 16 so I'm just wondering how the two extra affect the deck for you?
2 days ago
Just to explain what you brought up in the description
Which, along with 3 other elves (not too hard to get) is infinite draw, then infinite mana, than ping everyone to death with a 1,000,000/1,000,000 Walking Ballista. (Tap Archdruid for 5, Symbiote back a Visionary to untap, Sabertooth your Symbiote, recast both. drawn one card.)
And elfball gives you the backup plan of, you know, Craterhoof Behemoth.
He can play stax cards because his mana dorks allow him more mana through Winter Orb.
And his tutoring lets him play more silver bullets than normal.
3 days ago
Would you accept Elvish Archdruid?
1 week ago
Hi, Nature comes with Skullclamp add that back in place of Implement of Ferocity. Clamp can be busted with the tokens Freyalise's can continually create. Drawing two cards from one mana. Clamp is just a really good artifact with Elves in general. Nature also comes with Swiftfoot Boots add it back in place of something. Even though you can't use it to protect your Commander, she isn't a creature, you can use it to protect (hexproof) another Elf as well as give an Elf haste which is good with many Elves.
Some other budget cards including other Elves that I've found to be good with the Elves are:
- Fyndhorn Elves
- Arbor Elf
- Wirewood Symbiote
- Dwynen's Elite
- Temur Sabertooth
- Wild Pair
- Lifecrafter's Bestiary
- Shamanic Revelation
- Primal Command
- Sylvan Messenger
- Lead the Stampede
- Sword of the Paruns
These can have much more impact and replace cards of the same casting cost here. Cards like Primal Command, Lead the Stampede and Sylvan Messenger are important because of the budget. There's going to be a lack of good creature tutor cards because most are not budget options, they're price is too expensive. These cards can help to find a potential lot of Elves or creatures and put them into your hand.
More draw spells are another way to overcome the lack of creature tutors. Shamanic Revelation is another as well as better Collective Unconscious and Harmonize is just a good draw spell for budget green.
Sword of the Paruns is the budget infinite mana combo artifact for Elves. It in combination with Elvish Archdruid or Priest of Titania and other Elves in your control can be used to make infinite green mana which can then be used to play a lot of spells or activate Ezuri, Renegade Leader's overrun ability a lot of times.
I also recommend that you add 4-5x more Forests to the manabase, giving you 34-35x lands. The avg. CMC (converted mana cost) is 3.6 this is high for only using 30x lands.
Good luck with your deck.
1 week ago
- Llanowar Elves
- Elvish Archdruid
- Priest of Titania
- Ezuri, Renegade Leader
- Heritage Druid
- Quirion Ranger
- Fauna Shaman
- Imperious Perfect
- Oracle of Mul Daya
1 week ago
My top ten are the following in no specific order:
Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury hey she counts right???