|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Printings View all
|Scars of Mirrodin (SOM)||Rare|
Combos Browse all
Creature — Ooze
As long as Necrotic Ooze is on the battlefield, it has all activated abilities of all creature cards in all graveyards.
Price & Acquistion Set Price Alerts
|Have (28)||Justinaut , Supremespeed , gamerhat , Vasbear1 , vishnarg , killstars , lava_lava , Razulghul , , gosora , Joblaska , Shiromakuro , Epidilius , Metaphisyk , Fineontheoutside , elemental55 , Cazaz0816 , beatdown36 , Sav547 , mlouden03 , Venser_the_Sojoner , LegacyHunter , , Mortiferus_Rosa , , ZombieFood , Lindough , Nemesis|
|Want (40)||kodie53 , iscottboy123 , OriginalBlue , Sky_Ward_Syndicate , Swagrajag , TheEyesOfLife , The_Munchkin , SirFowler , CarlyRaeJepsenMTG , Lordaether , Victorp99 , thebfg , kawa , Robbibob , SacredKittay , R.C. , lastkingofdenmark , tazartheyoot , Turgenyev , relon , Nino_Cambo , MirrorMountain , GarethGrey , Deiaros , duff87 , DerektheRed , RoninH3RO , cdgalucard , Aleksey85 , Hayliiel , DangoDaikazoku , Nerukad , Henryen , Maulhawk , buildingadeck , CaptianClueless , Ariumlegion , notsaying , cartemagic , Piekan|
Necrotic Ooze Discussion
16 minutes ago
1 week ago
Necrotic Ooze seems like a promising card. You can sac out utility creatures and still have them on the board.
2 weeks ago
thegigibeast here are some of my thoughts on the matter, dunno if it helps!
Wait... Myojin of Seeing Winds is tier 5? That is the best Omni-Show deck in the format, being surprisingly powerful with proper gameplay, running as a controling sort of deck before dropping Omniscience and going all Super-Saiyan and drawing the deck and casting it all for free. It uses it because when you get Omni out you can cast your commander, then Chain of Vapor, Into the Roil, Snap, and Blink of an Eye it to hand and draw into more bounce and card draw to draw more bounce to bounce Myojin and keep storming off until it hits Enter the Infinite and wins. Surprisingly a really sweet list. Tier 4?
Also, Ragnar is Tier 5? That is the second best commander for creature-based bant stax decks, very close to Derevi. I mean, protecting the other creatures you run is really important, and Mother of Runes and Sylvan Safekeeper can't do a ton against sweepers like Austere Command, so Ragnar really helps the list. Tier 3 for me.
Ayesha Tanaka is a reasonably powerful commander for Azorius Stax, stopping many cards such as Basalt Monolith's untap, Grim Monolith's untap, Dramatic Reversal, Strionic Resonator, Aetherflux Reservoir, etc. Tier 4.
Dosan the Falling Leaf is a reasonably well-powered elf-ball commander, helping out stopping almost any interaction on combo-turn. It really is good, despite not being an elf, it is low-costed enough to be cast on turn two from a turn one elf, and easily go off turn three given little hate. Tier 3.
In tier 4... well there are a lot I disagree with:
Adun Oakenshield is a powerful midrange-combo commander, being good with Hermit Druid lines in a way most aren't. The line is a simple one, using Morselhoarder, Devoted Druid, Dread Return, Necrotic Ooze, and Walking Ballista, yet also is surprisingly powerful with the ability to use the commander to rebuild if the combo is disrupted, using Krosan Reclamation to bring cards back into the deck immediately and Riftsweeper to shuffle back in the Reclamation, the list also can use Adun to bring back key cards to attempt to recombo out the very next turn, given sufficient mana. Backup wincon in Survival of the Fittest/Protean Hulk/Apprentice Necromancer in case you can't access the druid. Tier 3 (Similar to Xira Arien in terms of as a card and power level).
Anafenza, the Foremost has been already discussed, and is much, much more powerful as a stax/hatebears commander than a load of currently much higher rated lists. Tier 2-3?
Dragonlord Dromoka is a commander that always surprises me as a really impressive commander for stax. It even has a relatively effective wincon in beatdown. Being able to stop interaction on your turn, laying out a thicker field of stax, every following turn, while also having a commander that is difficult to interact with (dependent on interaction) is really much stronger than people expect when they see the 6 cmc. Tier 3.
Eladamri, Lord of Leaves is another good option for elfball, leaving extremely little interaction. It can be targetted itself because it was errated, but it is a cheap, effective wall against targetted removal, and so should be considered more often in comparison to other lists. Tier 3 is my pick.
Heidar, Rimewind Master I have only seen once, and it didn't do amazingly, but after I looked at the list was a reasonable Dramatic Reversal Isochron Scepter list that uses all snow lands except for an Ancient Tomb using Scrying Sheets really well. The commander isn't amazing, but the interaction hitting nearly anything while being able to synergize with the countermagic suite the deck runs really seems good in the grindier games, in which it disables most other decks' combos for a turn or so if it sticks. Tier 3?
Linvala, Keeper of Silence is one of the better mono-white stax lists, along with Hokori, Dust Drinker, I would imagine they are better in the current metagame than most would expect. Tier 3 seems reasonable for both.
Masako the Humorless should be tier 5. I don't think this ability is useful at all in cEDH, and when we have Atogatog in tier 5, a commander that could replace many old Scions and Najeelas in the C-Zone and no one would notice in tier 1-2, this card shouldn't be considered tier 4.
I will write up lists for these if you want, but I think most speak for themselves.
2 weeks ago
thelaymensgamer Yes, I've considered some cards from it. May be current and previous guildmage would be benefical. But there are not much recurring surveil. Demon is too expensive to consider adding him. What my deck really needs, is more solid wincon. Now, except for just blathantly doing some combat damage, i can win with Necrotic Ooze + Phyrexian Devourer + Triskelion, but it's quite a fragile combo. Now thralling my lgs for two infect creatures and eldrazi processors(green and blue one).
3 weeks ago
what do have dual lands to do with these changes?
i never said you should change anything besides the cards mentioned. vial smasher gives red color identity but you dont need red cards at all. red color identity lets you use morselhoarder in a B U G deck! its only about color identity. not lands or whatever. you never cast morselhoarder anyway.
thats why i was suggesting these changes in the first place. i was not suggesting going 4 color or building an entire different deck.
3 weeks ago
Thanks for the upvote JKRice !
Necrotic Ooze sure is a strong candidate for this deck! I think I'll have to squeeze at least one into it.
Too bad it doesn't benefit from: 3x Conundrum Sphinx, 3x Sage of Epityr and 4x Skill Borrower. I also have an idea that this deck should not be hurt too badly by sideboard gravehate... But it's definently something I need to sit down with a stout and think about!
3 weeks ago
I can honestly say I’ve never seen this strategy, and that deserves an upvote in itself. One suggestion: seems like it might be fun to make a variant that kinda goes mill-ish or dredge, adding in something like Dakmor Salvage and Thought Scour as a cantrip (both of which mess with the top card of your library for skill borrower) and then have Necrotic Ooze, allowing you to have all activated abilities of creatures on top and in the yard. However, the deck seems kinda packed as is so it might be hard to fit it in there
3 weeks ago
DangoDaikazoku You're probably right about Szadek being bad, but I still want another 2 card kill that doesn't involve Necrotic Ooze, since it's a common target for removal. I'll try using Necropolis Regent, since they are generally more cost effective, but I'll probably cut it later.
I notice you run a lot of tutor effects already, but some them are a hard to buy and non-repeatable, so might I suggest Heirloom Blade? If you have a sacrifice outlet you can, for example, use Avatar of Woe to fetch Phage the Untouchable. As a bonus, the blade works around effects that prevent or punish searching libraries, with the downside that your opponents see part of your deck. Disciple of Deceit also seems pretty good, since it's effect is cheap and repeatable, but is another card that requires a certain amount of build-around.