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Cryptolith Rite Discussion
7 hours ago
However, I can see Cryptolith Rite going into a more Good Stuff Animar build. The ability to produce any color of mana would be useful if you are running cards like Sower of Temptation or Zealous Conscripts, which would give you the opportunity to utilize the abilities on your opponents' permanents. That build may be not as viable a strategy in cEDH due to being slower than Combo Animar, but if you are building for a more "Pub Stomp" or "75%" meta I can see it working out.
9 hours ago
I've often thought of adding Cryptolith Rite to turn all those utility creatures who's effects youve used into more usable coloured mana. Do you think that's a viable option?
1 day ago
Secure the Wastes, Oviya Pashiri, Sage Lifecrafter, Sylvan Caryatid, Second Harvest, Sundering Growth, Devout Invocation, Anointed Procession, Parallel Lives, Sorin, Solemn Visitor, Ajani Steadfast, Ashnod's Altar, Zulaport Cutthroat, Cryptolith Rite, Purphoros, God of the Forge, Catacomb Sifter, Scion of Vitu-Ghazi, Skullclamp, Mentor of the Meek, Armada Wurm
3 days ago
Thanks for the input!
Mj3913 I am terrible at thinking about tokens builds, especially with Cryptolith Rite, but I believe that that could be powerful. I don't know that there's a way to ramp into Lili t3 with any combination of standard cards, but I think t4 Lili into Razaketh is probably gamebreaking. I don't know how to make that consistent, though.
jparker-sartori21 Yeah that's what I was thinking too! I'll have to tinker around with a list. I don't know that Reanimating a dude can be consistent enough for standard, though. I feel like the deck might have to have a solid midrange backup plan.
I threw together a list here:
Control being a misnomer since it has a good midgame like all B/W lists, but it can win with Brisela, regular beatdown, or Approach of the Second Sun which is instantly tutorable with Raza... What do you all think? This is my idea for a kind of toolbox build. I'm also going to throw together a prototype for GB midrange/value and Mardu reanimator.
3 days ago
4 days ago
Thank you for the tips, now that I'm looking at it, I probably will replace Dragon Appeasement, just not for Fecundity, a lot of the time I'll have my opponents creatures die with Grave Pact or Dictate of Erebos, so I'd rather not give my opponents cards. I also really like the idea of Cryptolith Rite, so thanks for that. Typically I'll use Conjurer's Closet for Avenger of Zendikar or Chancellor of the Forge, I dont on if I'll get rid of it yet, I'll think on it.
4 days ago
This looks like it would be a lot of fun to play. If you're looking for more card draw options, black has plenty of good ones in Necropotence and Phyrexian Arena. If you'd like to stick with drawing in the theme of Dragon Appeasement, look at Fecundity and Grim Haruspex. I don't know if you really want to skip your draw step, but if you don't, these two cards will work better for you than Dragon Appeasement.
I'm curious what you use Conjurer's Closet for in this deck? It seems like it would fit better in a blink-themed deck, but I could have missed something, too.
Overall, I think you've got a creative and fun build here. Nice work!
4 days ago
Hi Guint!! Here are some suggestions I think you could utilize for Ishkanah. So far it looks good!
The things we want to make sure you have in this deck are ways to activate delirium, as well as ways to activate Ish's tribal effects. Let's start with the spiders themselves~
If you can find it I definitely recommend buying a Swarmyard cause what's better than a land that prevents your dudes from dying?
Arachnogenesis Essentially a Fog with an added bonus of giving you a TON of spider tokens. Spider Spawning is also going to be a winner in this deck. Penumbra Spider gives you good value by making another token when it dies. Riptide Replicator is a fun artifact that can make spiders as well... and with all the tokens, a Parallel Lives and Second Harvest would definitely be cards to consider. Also a fan of the underused Parallel Evolution - it even has Flashback! Swarm them with tokens and then drop a Pathbreaker Ibex, Decimator of the Provinces or the ever coveted Craterhoof Behemoth... or you can go the route of Overwhelming Stampede.
Silklash Spider would be a good powerhouse to pick up. It's effect can kill off any flier on the board.
There aren't any other specific "spiders" that are noteworthy, but there are always shapeshifters. My favorite "spiders" are Metallic Mimic and Chameleon Colossus Alternatively you can get a Conspiracy and just make your whole deck into spiders. Then when they all die bring them back with Patriarch's Bidding.
Spiders have especially large butts on them, so Assault Formation can really be powerful. Things that benefit from the high toughness of spiders should also be up for consideration. Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper, Abzan Beastmaster, Grim Contest, and Kin-Tree Invocation are ones that come to mind immediately.
For a more tribal feel I def recommend trying out Archetype of Endurance and Archetype of Finality as well as Brawn and Filth. Bow of Nylea could be used as an alternative to Archetype of Finality if you so choose. There are also tribal artifacts such as Coat of Arms, Urza's Incubator, Obelisk of Urd and Door of Destinies.
Now onto the Delirium Mechanic. Making sure your own cards into the graveyard can seem counterproductive but a lot of things benefit from it. So first, how do we self mill?
- Deadbridge Chant is a personal favorite. Satyr Wayfinder, Crop Sigil, Grisly Salvage, Mulch, Grapple with the Past, Commune with the Gods, Benefaction of Rhonas, Sudden Reclamation. Stinkweed Imp or anything with Dredge. Golgari Grave-Troll is a popular one.
Now for some super fun cards that benefit from a graveyard presence.
- Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord, Lord of Extinction, Deathcap Cultivator, Deathrite Shaman, Traverse the Ulvenwald, Splendid Reclamation, and Meren of Clan Nel Toth. Did you mill a bunch of great cards you want back? Recursion is also a super powerful strategy. Eternal Witness is a Green staple for a reason. Greenwarden of Murasa, Seasons Past, Treasured Find, Animate Dead, Victimize. Sometimes you want to put specific things into the graveyard to fetch with recursion cards, so Entomb, Jarad's Orders, and Buried Alive become like tutors in a sense.
Now lets talk about Black and Green as colors in EDH. Black/Green has a few things that it needs to run undoubtedly. One of its major problems is card draw, so you're definitely going to want to auto-include Harmonize and Phyrexian Arena. I would also consider Lifecrafter's Bestiary.
Removal: Putrefy, Murder, Hero's Downfall, Abrupt Decay, Krosan Grip, Golgari Charm, Toxic Deluge, In Garruk's Wake, Acidic Slime, Beast Within. Dictate of Erebos to be used in conjunction with a sacrifice outlet like Ashnod's Altar (sac your extra tokens for mana!)
Ramp: Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, Solemn Simulacrum, Sol Ring, Explosive Vegetation, Thran Dynamo, Commander's Sphere, Golgari Signet, Cryptolith Rite, Harrow, Crop Rotation, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Yavimaya Elder.
The only other thing I want to say about your deck is that you should probably up your land count to at least 36. 30 is usually too little for most EDH decks in my experience. Unless you're going super aggro, you'll find yourself short on a lot of land drops.
If you wanted to upgrade your lands, here are some relatively inexpensive things you could add:
Golgari Rot Farm, Command Tower, Jungle Hollow, Temple of Malady, Woodland Cemetery, Overgrown Tomb, Llanowar Wastes, Tainted Wood, Grim Backwoods, Bojuka Bog, Hissing Quagmire, Temple of the False God, Drownyard Temple, Ghost Quarter, and any lands that Cycle in your colors :)