Creature — Elf Advisor
When Generous Patron enters the battlefield, support 2. (Put a +1/+1 counter on each of up to two other target creatures.)
Whenever you put one or more counters on a creature you don't control, draw a card.
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Generous Patron occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%
Generous Patron Discussion
4 weeks ago
Thanks for the posting. I didn't know about Skyshroud Poacher until now and that is an awesome find for a Marwyn player.
I have a couple suggestions for you - I think the untap effects are great, but the instant and enchantment versions of this are not as strong as creature based versions. Pulling one of those to make room for Quirion Ranger would be worth trying. Pulling the rest of them or other non-elf cards of your choice for Ivy Lane Denizen , Generous Patron , and Rishkar, Peema Renegade I would also suggest as those 3 cards are some of the most potent elf ball effects Marwyn has - at least in my experience.
Great deck, have fun, and happy holidays!
1 month ago
Thanks for the suggestions! I forgot to mention that I'm trying to keep this budget so I wont add singles above $25, meaning Staff of Domination , Survival of the Fittest , Gaea's Cradle , even Craterhoof Behemoth are out of budget (nor can I find them easily in my locale).
I did try Elvish Guidance in an earlier build but again, once a wipe hits, its no use. Might try it again. I suppose Crop Rotation is only for Cradle and Nykthos? If I dont run both these lands/ only Nykthos, is it still worth it? For now, I'm unable to find a Natural Order locally, but Eldritch Evolution seems to be doing the job, and also cheaper (real money wise).
Grothama, All-Devouring can act as a substitute Ghalta, Primal Hunger for the sake of Life's Legacy effects. I feel I have issues with early filtering. Would cards like Generous Patron , Oath of Nissa work?
1 month ago
Generous Patron group hug could be fun. Drawing 8 cards for attacking with two creatures seems pretty silly overall.
1 month ago
I have been thinking about Duelist's Heritage & Bloodthirsty Blade , I have always wished Assault Suit could be equipped to opponents creatures. I am unsure about the Vow's, every time I have played them I haven't gotten much value. If they were instants I may like them better. I am going to test out Bloodthirsty Blade to see if sticking around ends up having more value for me.
I am running Repercussion , Deflecting Palm , & Boros Fury-Shield in my doubling deck as they allow damage to go from 2X - 4X. Doubling deck link -The bigger they are, the better they fall. They used to be the same deck but they recently split.
Thank you all for the suggestions!
1 month ago
Dipping into green will give you access to +1/+1 counters. Most cards of that type can be put on any creature, not just your own. Additionally, cards like Generous Patron can even reward you for doing so. In red, the only ones I can think of are Act of Treason-like effects and Mutiny
2 months ago
Adds: Ancient tomb, gamble, grim monolith, blood pod, green sun's zenith, stax pieces such as trinisphere, winter orb or damping sphere, maybe also sylvan tutor
Cuts: Ripjaw Raptor (not consistently strong enough for its cost), Goblin Bombardment (marath legit just does it better by himself), 1x Snow-Covered Forest (for tomb), Nature's Lore (gamble is strictly better), Generous Patron (not strong enough, there are better value pieces and marath does better with stax), Illusionist's Bracers (if you're insistent on this effect Rings of Brighthearth does it better, otherwise cut for another stax piece or blood pod piece, maybe Red Elemental Blast depending on meta.
Hopefully I'm helping and not just being annoying! Loved your marath list in the game yesterday and would love to help you work on it
3 months ago
I like Walking Ballista because it’s one of the few ways I can get Marwyn back after a Gilded Drake by just dropping it with one counter and ping Marwyn. He’s tutorable removal which is never bad, plus he’s a simpler wincon that is usually more efficient than Primal Command loops. There are also times where you only have infinite mana because of a Sword of the Paruns or something, and Walking Ballista still wins the game in those situations if you have it in your hand. Kozilek, Butcher of Truth is in because he’s still good in non-infinite situations. Ten mana draw four is overcosted but it’s in my opinion better than only drawing one or two cards for less mana. Since there are so many redundant effects, as long as I can ramp to ten mana (which is almost never hard), Kozilek, Butcher of Truth will usually draw into a tutor or other mass card draw spell. In addition, once infinite mana has been acquired, he can draw your entire deck. It’s sort of like having four Elvish Visionary stapled together plus a decent plan D wincon, plus mill protection when relevant.
Return of the Wildspeaker was an auto include as soon as I saw it spoiled. I traded for a prerelease promo on prerelease weekend, I just haven’t updated the list online. I took out Carpet of Flowers , which is an amazing card, but it really depends on an opponent playing blue AND having Islands (or duals), which isn’t a guarantee.
It took me until you suggested it for me to realize how good Generous Patron is in here. I saw it on other people’s lists and thought it was bad because you don’t get to draw when you put counters on Marwyn. When you mentioned it was Divination I actually thought about it. I’m definitely going to pick one of these up, so thank you for that!
3 months ago
I would cut Walking Ballista and Kozilek, Butcher of Truth . If they're only functional when you have infinite mana then they are dead cards. Elvish Visionary + Temur Sabertooth draws your whole deck when you have infinite. Eternal Witness + Temur Sabertooth draws or tutors your whole deck depending on what's in your graveyard. Primal Command wins you the game if you have your deck in your hand, which means you can use walking ballista's slot for something with more functionality. I would run Return of the Wildspeaker and another eternal witness effect or maybe Generous Patron which acts like a Divination that beefs up marwyn and combos with temur sabertooth.
Also, what are your thoughts on Lightning Greaves ?