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Name a card. Remove the top six cards of your library from the game, then reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal the named card. Put that card into your hand and remove all other cards revealed this way from the game.
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Demonic Consultation Discussion
5 days ago
nvm I also see why Demonic Consultation does not work.
5 days ago
Sugesstions: Gemstone Caverns, Exotic Orchard, and Demonic Consultation.Gemstone Caverns allows for a turn earlier win. As you are running a 4 color deck Exotic Orchard will most likely be a dual land if not better. Demonic Consultation If you put both Fatestitcher and Bloodghast in your list is a turn eariler [Hermit Druid] combo. The way this would work would be turn one land that taps for black, and turn two Demonic Consultation naming Mountain milling your whole deck due to your lack of Mountain. Then this put Narcomoeba into play then play a land that taps for blue putting Bloodghast into play then tap that land for blue and unearth Fatestitcher. After this simply Dread Return them and target your Necrotic Ooze and performe the Hermit Druid line.Budgeting: I am on a budget and woud not like to buy the duals. To replace them I have considered artifact lands as I can fetch them and also fast lands because they tap for two colors. As you have more experience with this deck I was hoping you could help me decide which option would be better. Thank you.
3 weeks ago
Demonic Consultation is banned in Legacy and Restricted in Vintage.
4 weeks ago
I gave you the upvote, and yea. Who needs expensive decks? 90% of my decks are under $75 and they work fine. I've even made a turn 2 win deck under $100 (Around $50). Mind you it is casual, but all it is is Laboratory Maniac, Dark Ritual and Demonic Consultation. (With demonic consultation, name a card that isn't in your library, e.g., Lava Axe and you exile your library) There are so many decks you can build under $50 that are just as good as decks that cost hundreds. (If you build around the right cards) My first EDH deck is under $40. (It's called "Artifucked" and it's on my profile If you want to check it out.) it's not that good, but I thought a $30 EDH deck was a cool idea in itself. Not to mention the fact that it really isn't a bad deck at all. Your deck is obviously better, as it has almost 5x the budget and yours is really well made.
1 month ago
Now for some cuts:Gamble is bad, and it will make you feel bad. If you want a tutor, you are better off using a cheap black one. Increasing Ambition is a card you can use for example. Cabal Ritual and Dark Ritual are only good for Torment of Hailfire and otherwise they suck in your deck. I'd only keep them if you want your wincon for your deck to be casting and copying cards with big effects like that such as in Cruel Ultimatum, Ribbons, or Exsanguinate, which you could make your wincon, but you'd have to change around your deck. Izzet Charm is a storm card, you don't want this. Secrets of the Dead is way too slow. Just putting in a Sire of Stagnation or something would be most of the time way more efficient.Jace's Sanctum, while not bad, should be replaced by a card coming in Ixalan, Primal Amulet.
I think that the biggest problem with this deck is that it doesn't know how to win. Control with Kess can win in two ways. 1. Infinite Combo (with Laboratory Maniac and Demonic Consultation, Kokusho, the Evening Star and Rite of Replication, or some variation of the Splinter Twin combo). 2. Winning off of either one-shotting or hitting hard over a few turns with cards like Torment of Hailfire that I mentioned before, preferably copying those spells with Increasing Vengeance or Reiterate. You could put an infinite mana combo using Palinchron and Deadeye Navigator in too if you want to go that route.
This should cover most of my complaints. If you still need more things to cut, you probably don't need so many one mana draw spells. They get worse the more there are in your deck. You should really only be using them for the occasional extra draw with Kess when you have nothing to do with her, so only keep the most efficient ones like Gitaxian Probe and Brainstorm, etc.
1 month ago
Here are some suggestions: Talent of the Telepath lets you use the opponents removal (like if you need exile or enchantment removal), generate value, or it can be an emergency cultivate or something against a green player. Also its cheap. Memory Plunder is in a similar vein. Better when you need a specific spell, but it doesn't mill potential combo pieces, etc. Vandalblast is a great one sided artifact removal, and kess can cast it twice. Nightscape Familiar is a great cost reducer I don't see. Dack Fayden should be in your deck. At the minimun it's often ramp (can steal their mana rocks) or looting for what you need. At most it steals their combos. Toxic Deluge is one of the best board wipes in commander.Sire of Stagnation is great draw that makes opponents hesitant to play lands and can exile key cards. Sphinx of the Final Word this might only perform well in a certain meta, but worth considering. Imprisoned in the Moon You can't repeat this but its worth it. Shut down their commanders. Reliquary Tower Pretty self explanatory in edhDesolate Lighthouse is a great looting tool when you want itDemonic Consultation instant wins with Laboratory Maniac.
These next two are probably too expensive right now, but I am mentioning them because they are being reprinted in Iconic Masters which comes out in November so they're price will go down. Consecrated Sphinx great drawKokusho, the Evening Star usually kills all opponents with kicked Rite of Replication
1 month ago
You do have a lot of cards to filter through your deck for your win cons, which I assume are Reiterate+Turnabout+Enter the Infinite, or using Show and Tell to drop in Omniscience and playing all you can.
Also, Reset works just as well as Turnabout with Reiterate, so long as you can play spells on your opponent's turn. That being said, how about switching it in for Serum Visions? Preordain is better, anyways. (Scry after you draw? So silly.)
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1 month ago
Lordleumas Wow that actually really interesting! I didn't realize how much Serum Powder complicates the math. I think when it comes to card games, most people use computer-generated simulators to run the statistics, even though I am sure there may be a hard formula to figure it out. Still, that is an incredibly small chance that the deck will actually fail.
I haven't considered Demonic Consultation but I really should. Just having an extra card that gets the job done over a land would make a huge difference. Of course getting rid of that land means there's a smaller chance that I'll have the mana to cast Demonic Consultation.
Well I haven't played with this deck idea in a while, but I think I may revisit this deck and see if I can make some changes. There's a very slim chance that I'll actually build this deck in paper, but it's pretty cool nonetheless that you were able to provide that confidence interval. Thanks!