Demonic Consultation

Demonic Consultation

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Name a card. Remove the top six cards of your library from the game, then reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal the named card. Put that card into your hand and remove all other cards revealed this way from the game.

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Demonic Consultation Discussion

the_expanding_man on Sui Black Hatred (Replacement card ...

3 days ago

The Suicide Black archetype is a personal favorite of mine and that goes double for the Hatred iteration. I know that Suicide Black hasn't been Legacy viable for a while (especially in this form.) However, I own a lot of the cards, so I decided to build an older, casual version of the deck here

The most notable change is the lack of Demonic Consultation. Without it the Hatred kill isn't as instantaneous, reliable, and unstoppable. Mainly, I'd like to know if there were any cards or combinations of cards that could serve in its place. Currently I have Sign in Blood in it's stead for draws but it's no where near the same caliber as Demonic Consultation.

spiegel421 on Help With a Crazy Deck ...

1 week ago

I've been working on a deck lately that features Barren Glory. The trick is to trim the library down to Hellcarver Demon, Barren Glory, and Wrath of God with the use of Doomsday, then play the demon and have it attack next turn.

After the demon attacks, the top three or four cards are exiled. Wrath of God is first to be played, then Barren Glory. Next turn, I win.

The deck wins between turns four and eight when it does win; when it doesn't, it's usually because of the halved life involved with Doomsday, and I'm trying to find a means of alleviating some of this concern.

I added in two copies of Angel's Grace, and I think that that helps somewhat, but I'm wondering what else I can do.

I'm also trying to get rid of Demonic Consultation as well as make the size sixty cards in order to make my deck legacy legal, but in either case I'm not sure if I'll be able to get the cards I want when I want them.

Any suggestions for cards to add or remove?

spiegel421 on None

1 week ago

I've been working on a deck lately that features Barren Glory. The trick is to trim the library down to Hellcarver Demon, Barren Glory, and Wrath of God with the use of Doomsday, then play the demon and have it attack next turn.

After the demon attacks, the top three or four cards are exiled. Wrath of God is first to be played, then Barren Glory. Next turn, I win.

The deck wins between turns four and eight when it does win; when it doesn't, it's usually because of the halved life involved with Doomsday, and I'm trying to find a means of alleviating some of this concern.

I added in two copies of Angel's Grace, and I think that that helps somewhat, but I'm wondering what else I can do.

I'm also trying to get rid of Demonic Consultation as wells make the size sixty cards in order to make my deck legacy legal, but in either case I'm not sure if I'll be able to get the cards I want when I want them.

Any suggestions for cards to add or remove?

Deckologist on 2015-02-28 update of Mishra, Lord ...

1 week ago

Well as I mentioned to you via my board I have always loved Mishra. I couldn't help but dive right in and throw some suggestions your way. Please feel free to give me your thoughts on these suggestions as both positive and negative responses will help me narrow down your focus. With that being said....

The List

Mana Crypt great way to start any game off

Mana Vault see above

Grim Monolith see above

Master Transmuter most times people will have responses to you casting your win con or your lattice. This little lady helps you cheat things in and out of the game.

Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir is amazing control and combos with Knowledge Pool and Possibility Storm. Both combos allow you to cast spells but your opponents are locked out.

Imperial Seal very expensive but very very worth it.

Fabricate this little guy lets you tutor for your artifacts. Tutors are good stuff in EDH.

Treasure Mage another artifact tutor with a body

Vela the Night-Clad by herself she's a bit meh and her cost is high. She does offer your creatures with damage dealing abilities a nice chance to swing without being blocked though. She also does 30 damage to all opponents of you throw a Rite of Replication kicked on her. Rite is a decent card by itself too. A fine answer for when someone decides to cast a blightsteel. What's better than one? Five.

Bitterblossom nice token generator for cards like smokestacks.

Bottled Cloister seems like a terrible card but paired with Ensnaring Bridge you've got some fun.

Riptide Laboratory effective way to recast teferi, venser, trinket Mage, memnarch, treasure Mage. Just good utility.

Helm of Obedience this card screams to be in your deck as it can steal a creature AND it insta kills someone if you have let line of the void out. I can explain the interaction in more depth should this tickle your fancy.

Muzzio, Visionary Architect another great way to cheat out artifacts. Not at reliable as Arcum Dagsson but you don't uave enough artifact creatures to use his ability.

Cloud Key + Magus of the Future/Future Sight + Sensei's Divining Top allows you to draw out your library to get whatever card you need.

Basalt Monolith + Rings of Brighthearth is infinite colorless mana. Always nice.

Grand Architect + Pili-Pala is infinite colored mana. Even nicer.

With all that mana you need a mana sink. Oh look. An artifact that steals permanents and swings for a decent amount. Memnarch you crazy s.o.b where have you been?

Laboratory Maniac + Demonic Consultation says you win. Just cast demo cons before you draw call a card you know you don't have exile your library go to draw and win.

Mycosynth Lattice + Null Rod. No ones tapping anything to activate nothin! Not even lands can tap. I do not recommend this unless you have overwhelming board presence or you just need a few turns to get some breathing room going.

These are all just off the top of my head. Further contemplation will hopefully bring forth more options. Hope this helps!!!

mooffalosystema on Modern Dimir Mill

1 week ago

Figag Tl;Dr: There is no such thing as an Eldrazi in Graveyard for you to target.

Eldrazi shuffling into deck from GY is state-based.

You can't respond to it with Dimir Doppelganger or any other smart card you can think of. If it's an ability you activate or spell you cast (outside tapping for mana), it won't work. Extirpate, even being split second, can only go before it's in GY or after Eldrazi effect resolves, not at the same time or in response to Eldrazi being in GY.

If it's an effect, that's in play BEFORE Eldrazi is put in to GY, it works.

Eldrazi hitting the GY without Leyline of the Void to intercept it BEFORE it goes there means it WILL get shuffled along with the rest of the GY. Eldrazi needs to be in GY before you can doppleganger it, and as soon as it's in GY, the ability becomes State-based trigger and effects targeting it resolve in the same stack, making it a illegal target for that effect since Eldrazi ability always resolves first, being the first thing on the stack and since it's no longer in GY after resolving, it's an invalid target.

In the same vein, Progenitus never exists in GY, it's revealed and shuffled to the deck before it goes to Graveyard. It won't shuffle the rest of the GY with it tho.

Considering having ONE Eldrazi in any deck effectively makes basic pure-mill archetype moot since you HAVE to mill it to GY at some point to win in the first place, it's worth noting and making a big fuzz about. Especially if people start losing to said mill deck and meta-play it as sideboard pick. Moot discussion, until one actually shows up. And weird, silly hard-counters always pop-up in MTG.


Oh, and this for the deck builder if you want to be extra cheeky. Demonic Consultation + Hive Mind It's illegal/banned/restricted in most anything but pure lolz ensue if you manage to get it off. Unfortunately opponent does get to name his card for his copy Demonic Consultation. Totally worth it in casual play since it's so damn unreliable.

Epochalyptik on Dominus - Dreamcrusher Edition

1 month ago

Those cards are far too risky to be practical.

Tainted Pact introduces the possibility of exiling a key combo piece before it's needed. If that happens, I'd be forced to choose it and have a dead card in hand for the next few turns. I'd rather just tutor for the card I actually want so I don't waste resources.

Demonic Consultation sidesteps the shortcoming of Tainted Pact, but it falls off the cliff in the process. If I exile the named card as one of the top six, I end up exiling my entire library. Demonic Consultation also doesn't come with the same "stop here and take a subpar card" safety feature that Tainted Pact has; you must continue revealing until you hit a predetermined card.

imarockyou on Dominus - Dreamcrusher Edition

1 month ago

Have you thought about playing Tainted Pact orDemonic Consultation , like another Demonic tutor

bongkey on Tiny Tetsuo Doomsday

1 month ago

Honestly, the Vault Skirge was put in as a flier when I had Paranoid Delusions still in the deck. It just never got cut...

I'm thinking of putting in Demonic Consultation in over Personal Tutor as well. Its another combo piece with Laboratory Maniac, and isn't as mana intensive as setting up the whole Doomsday scenario (which I'm thinking I might just cut entirely).

Color(s) Black
Cost B
Converted cost 1
Avg. draft pick 1.05
Avg. cube pick 13.32

Legality

Format Legality
Vintage Restricted
Commander / EDH Legal
Duel Commander Legal

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Set Rarity
Masters Edition II Uncommon
Ice Age Uncommon

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