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Demonic Consultation Discussion
2 hours ago
Really it sometimes hurts Captain Sisay's Paradox Engine and Teferi, Temporal Archmage's The Chain Veil occasionally, and most decks have good long-game and don't need to combo out immediately, waiting to remove it.
What decks do they need to stop? Protean Hulk, Hermit Druid, The Gitrog Monster, all 'when this creature dies' triggers, Most Pod lines with Karmic Guide, all of the reanimator/Worldgorger Dragon lines, like Kess Twin with their silly Intuition for Laboratory Maniac, Demonic Consultation & Reanimate or Buried Alive for Phyrexian Delver, Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, and Deceiver Exarch. It hurts so much of the fast-combo decks, and is in incredible hatebears colors, I don't think it is just 'on par' with Gaddock Teeg, Gaddock Teeg would have to be lucky to be 'on par' with Anafenza, the Foremost.
Oh yeah, with Captain Sisay, Anafenza, the Foremost also shuts down the main Paradox Engine, Bontu's Monument, Mikaeus, the Lunarch/Saffi Eriksdotter, Captain Sisay, Bow of Nylea line for infinite damage by constantly recasting Mikaeus, the Lunarch/Saffi Eriksdotter from recurring it.
5 days ago
1 week ago
Hey, so here is the deck I copy and pasted and modified a bit:
I took out Pyroblast and Notion Thief because I don't play against enough blue decks to justify it, and replaced them with Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time. At that point, I figured with those two and Time Spiral, Ad Nauseam would have the potential to do just way too much damage to me to be worth it. I took it out, and thought for a bit on what could possibly ever replace a card like that in a deck like this. I ended up adding Whir of Invention to EoT Aetherflux Reservoir, but now I'm left wondering if it's even a lab man deck or not now. Is Mind's Desire and Demonic Consultation really what fuel the lab man win, and are they enough on their own? Or at this point, without Nauseam, is it even worth having lab man in the deck?
I also revised the lands a bit as well. I have the duals, and I wanted to use the cool new battlebond dual lands, since this is for competitive pod commander, not 1v1 or anything.
What are your thoughts on my version?
1 month ago
First of: Welcome to EDH: the format where you can pretty much brew anything you like!
However, some cards are much stronger than others in this format, and theres a general rule to evaluate the cards in your deck. First you have to evaluate how you win the game. Then you have to look at the cards and say: "Does this card forward that goal". For instance a card like Stronghold Confessor is not very good generally. It is a creature that deals at most 3 damage. At this point you could also play a Diabolic Tutor, finding part of a two-card combo that will win you the game. Avoid any cards that dont forward your gameplan. The best example is Serra Ascendant. A lot of people wrongly include this in their decks. Yes, it is a 5/5 flying lifelinker for . But if you can't kill them with it, the 20+ damage it might deal is not relevant.
So what cards should you run? Usually the answer is combo of some sort. And then all the cards that get you there. In black you can add a reanimation package (Pathrazer of Ulamog or better It That Betrays does win you a game if played on t2), you can go for an infinite damage combo (see for inspiration), or you can get lots and lots of mana using Cabal Coffers and the like and play a very big Torment of Hailfire.
If you wanna play reanimator you wanna get all the good reanimation spells
Most of them arent that expensive. The expensive part about this strategy is buying the targets. But it should be ok, just find some you like.
If you wanna build combo just play all the tutors you can afford. Also the all-in ones like Demonic Consultation.
If you wanna build big-mana.deck consider the following
- Crypt Ghast
- Thran Dynamo
- Primal Amulet Flip (double the Hailfire)
- Expedition Map
- Temple of the False God
- Caged Sun
- Extraplanar Lens
... and so on. A wierd tech you will not find anywhere else: Onyx Talisman ;)
Good luck brewing my guy!
1 month ago
Deadman5six: I took out the George combo as it was too fragile. It was essentially an all-in combo that could be easily disrupted. I decided to add it the Dramatic/Scepter combo with Aetherflux Reservoir as an easy storm win, and also Demonic Consultation to win even easier. So far it has been working out really well.
1 month ago
I was wondering if there would be a space to put in a Demonic Consultation as a 4th wincon? And what card could it potentially replace?
1 month ago
I would also suggest Consuming Aberration which is great in casual groups.
1 month ago
Hi! It looks like a cool deck. But there's something I don't get, why are you playing Tainted Pact? You have like 15 basics in here! If you want instant speed tutors I would go for Demonic Consultation, which is more risky, but really effective and super fun! :D