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Demonic Consultation Discussion
17 hours ago
ChaosArmoury I really like it. I used to play Kess doomsday and won many a war with it. I would think that a few other ways to mill your whole library would be useful. Angel's Grace + Ad Nauseam = great way to draw your whole library. Tainted Pact and Demonic Consultation are both also good ways to make it work. I also personally like Wheel of Fortune and Winds of Change in Kess builds.
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1 week ago
ok, so first thing's first, your commander doesn't help at all with what the deck wants to do, combo off. He's way too expensive, offers little to no utility, and is all around bad. If you HAVE to stay in esper even though Breya gives you exactly what you want and red is a good color, I would recommend playing Zur the Enchanter as your commander. he is typically the go-to for esper colors. the best part about him is that he is relatively inexpensive, and doesn't requite a buildaround. All you need for him to be worth it is a few enchantments you should have anyway, things like Necropotence, Mystic Remora, Rhystic Study, etc, all provide fantastic card advantage and utility to the deck.
Tolarian Winds: this card is a worse Windfall, because normally you don't want to replace a full hand, but rather fill an empty one. windfall does this very well and messes with opponents the same way winds does.
Demonic Tutor: tutors are very good in combo decks. nuff said
Enlightened Tutor: your combo is made entirely of artifacts, why aren't you running this?
Mystical Tutor: good card
Ad Nauseam: once you get your average cmc down by like 1.75, this card is a 5 mana instant speed draw lots.
Draw enchantments (Necropotence, Mystic Remora, Rhystic Study): These are stables in any UBx EDH deck. all of them are good at almost any point in the game, and they all draw TONS of cards, with Necropotence drawing the most and sometimes digging straight to the combo.
Mana Rocks: These are pretty cost restrictive but things like Mana Vault, Mana Crypt, Mox Opal, Chrome Mox and friends will help you keep the value train going after you draw tons with spells or wheels, and sometimes allow you to win on the same turn.
Laboratory Maniac + Demonic Consultation: the way this works is that you play laboratory maniac and then play consultation naming something that isn't in your deck to mill your entire deck and win the next time you draw.
Thanks for reading this wall of text, feel free to ask me any questions!
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
Hey, I was looking over this list, would Laboratory Maniac/Demonic Consultation/Tainted Pact combo fit? it is 3 two card combos in 3 cards, and it is great with the amount of card advantage this deck can acquire!
If you are concerned because of the landbase not supporting Tainted Pact, drop down to one basic of each type and then add:
These will replace the 11 you dropped, and for what else I would consider dropping, Vapor Snag could be easily dropped for Chain of Vapor, or Unsubstantiate, either way I think it would be an upgrade.
What do you think?
2 weeks ago
This deck looks sick! I love Demonic Consultation and Tainted Pact decks. True singleton just looks so cool. Very, very tuned. Have you thought about playing a Lion's Eye Diamond to help facilitate early wins?
How has Cephalid Coliseum worked for you? I play a sort-of-competitive Seasons Past combo deck with Thrasios, Triton Hero and Tymna the Weaver at the helm, and I am thinking about putting in more ways to stock my graveyard pre-combo. Cephalid Coliseum seems like a pretty cool way to do it, especially with ways to recur it.
Similarly, how about Toxic Deluge? I played it in Doomsday Zur for a while, but in a slightly slower deck like mine I am a little worried about the cost in life, but I think it'd be worth it.
The only card in your deck that gives me a little pause is Spire of Industry. Do you reliably get to turn it on?
3 weeks ago
On another note, I really like the list here, the extra turn thing surprised me, but if it works, it works! I'll toss you a +1 for the unique take!
Spellseeker didn't make your cut? I saw it in the maybeboard, but since I didn't see you run it, I assume you have some reasons for that, I'd love to hear them!
Other than that, I see you don't run Laboratory Maniac (but have it in the sideboard), yet run Tainted Pact in the main deck, I know it works as a tutor, but you know, Laboratory Maniac + Tainted Pact/Demonic Consultation is a lot of fun. I see you run Entomb to dig out Kozilek, Butcher of Truth to reshuffle your yard in, which is clever, but running a reanimation package with Reanimate/Animate Dead/Buried Alive might not be the worst idea, considering how well I have found Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur to be with the discard synergies you run.
3 weeks ago
@Spazdiesfirst360, thanks for the thumbs up.
The Necropotence is in the deck for two reasons:
1- if i begin the game with a crappy hand that makes it impossible for me to combo-out at turn 3, i can still put it in play at turn 2 and draw into the things I need.
2- if i run against a deck that has artifact hate (for example Shatterstorm) than it is game over for me if i just had everything in play, leaving me with an almost empty hand and an empty board, except some lands. If i have enough lands however to put the Necropotence into play, i can draw a complete new hand and start over (if i get another turn).
you do have a point however that it might be better in the sideboard than in main, but i will leave it there for a bit i think. i have been considering to replace it by Demonic Consultation.
4 weeks ago
Have you considered swapping Damia, Sage of Stone for both Thrasios, Triton Hero and Ravos, Soultender? This does two things, it gives you access to white, which means additional wrath and utility effects as well as the two best spot removal spells in commander Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile. It also gives you an additional outlet for your infinite mana combo which is accessible at all times in the command zone. With the addition of Laboratory Maniac Thrasios becomes a tutor, and instant win by playing LabMan after you find him by digging with her ability. By adding Demonic Consultation in addition to LabMan, you have the ability to win turn 2 while holding some protection with a little ramp by using Consultation to name a card outside of your deck list. Consultation can also serve as a tutor in very dire situations. This will make you mana base substantially more expensive, however you state budget is no concern, so that shouldn't be an issue for you. Probably not what you're looking to do with the deck, I just hadn't seen it suggested yet and thought I would throw it out there. I also chose Ravos over Tymna the Weaver for a reason, while Tymna is more popular, your deck isn't looking to win through combat, so Ravos will allow you to merely wait a turn to go off by recurring whatever piece you need if any of your key pieces get destroyed before you can establish your combo. Best of luck in all future tournaments.