Demonic Consultation

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Custom Legal
Vanguard Legal
Leviathan Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Unformat Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Masters Edition II (ME2) Uncommon
Ice Age (ICE) Uncommon

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Demonic Consultation

Instant

Name a card. Remove the top six cards of your library from the game, then reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal the named card. Put that card into your hand and remove all other cards revealed this way from the game.

Demonic Consultation Discussion

SynergyBuild on Food Chain Sliver

1 week ago

Fellin22 It is part of a 2 card combo with either Tainted Pact and Demonic Consultation . With the +1 on the stack, you can name a card not in your deck with DC or just exile all the way through your deck with TP you win when the draw resolves. Seems good to me

AlwaysSleepy on The EDH Doomsday Primer

1 week ago

MrCommunist

Thanks man, I'm glad you liked it.

TheZodiac666

Sorry super late. New Jace plays much better with Demonic Consultation and Tainted Pact . Those win-cons are very strong. He's less amazing in DD since he's 4 CMC, but if you run him he'll have DD synergy.

Woodlake on Jace the Inventor

2 weeks ago

Hermit Druid , Demonic Consultation , Spoils of the Vault and Tainted Pact also synergise with Jace however they are not part of his colour identity.

markmanno on Najeela_JungleStax

3 weeks ago

Hey, love the deck. I too love Najeela and made a very stax oriented brew irl. You've just brought my attention to Grasp of Fate , so I may find a home for that one soon! I see you don't run Tainted Pact or Demonic Consultation with Jace, Wielder of Mysteries , so that may be a potential addition you may want to look into.

I would love any type of feedback on my Najeela Stax Deck as well if you feel like looking!

SideBae on (KFC) Kefnet's Full Control

3 weeks ago

So I'm not entirely sure how you play to win with Laboratory Maniac or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries . All the builds I've had with those cards use Demonic Consultation or Tainted Pact to exile their library, but I'm not sure how you plan to do that here outside using Sensei's Divining Top . I'm assuming I'm missing something. However, I've found that usually only one of those effects is necessary, so I'd consider cutting one of them (probably the Laboratory Maniac , as Jace, Wielder of Mysteries has applicability even if you're not going off).

Typically in EDH, I try to run around 33 or 34 lands. I've never been impressed with Halimar Depths , mainly because it ETBs tapped and blue has better top-deck manipulation in the form of Brainstorm , Ponder , Preordain and the like. So Halimar Depths is another card I'd consider cutting.

I've never been impressed with the card Dream Cache . It rearranges the cards in your hand, but it doesn't provide any card advantage for three mana; if it were one or even two mana, I'd consider it. But as things stand, I recommend cutting it. Portent is another card I'd cut. The delayed draw is really significantly worse than an immediate draw, and I don't think you need all of the possible one-mana cantrips.

Most of your instant spells have only or in their mana cost; therefore, redundant cost-reducers don't do much. Baral, Chief of Compliance and Sapphire Medallion are an excellent cards, but I don't think Primal Amulet  Flip or Curious Homunculus  Flip are quite good enough. I do see that Capsize gets a BIG bonus from several cost-reducers, but I don't think that's quite a good enough reason to run as many as you do. Arcane Melee would be my first card to cut, simply because it's symmetrical, and you're effectively ramping your opponents. I suggest running ramp like Coldsteel Heart , Sky Diamond and Mind Stone , as these tend to be cheaper than cost-reduces and the first two generate blue mana. These have the added bonus of being rocks to use with the dramatic scepter combo.

I think you're running slightly too much spot removal. Kasmina's Transmutation is good, as are all of your bounce spells, but I think running more than 3 or 4 is too much. So I'd suggest cutting Into the Roil or Blink of an Eye . Typically, trading one-for-ones in EDH isn't great, as you usually have three opponents.

I don't think you need Beacon of Tomorrows AND Nexus of Fate . I suggest cutting Beacon of Tomorrows .

I'd cut Rise from the Tides . I feel like just having a Talrand, Sky Summoner is good enough for this effect, and Rise from the Tides creates the tokens tapped for more mana than it's typically worth. Similarly, you may want to cut Docent of Perfection  Flip.

I'd cut Rewind . Four mana is a lot to leave up at the end of your turn, especially since mono-blue doesn't exactly have an abundance of ramp magic. You have plenty of two-mana counters.

I don't think you need to run both Archaeomancer and Call to Mind . Which to cut is a meta call, as Call to Mind is easier to cast, but Archaeomancer provides a body to block with.

Swiftfoot Boots is a card I'd consider cutting. I don't think your general, while powerful, is going to draw the same amount of removal as Arcum Dagsson or Zur the Enchanter , so I think your counter-magic should be enough to protect you.

Generally, in combo decks, you want to focus in on the combo and tutoring it out. Whir of Invention and Reshape are worth considering as methods to tutor out Isochron Scepter ; I see you already have a lot of ways to tutor the Dramatic Reversal . I advise cutting out the cards in your deck that are not focused in on fetching and resolving that combo, as these will speed up your deck and make you a more potent threat earlier in the game.

SideBae on Teenage Mutant Ninja Owls

1 month ago

Cover of Darkness is a good tribal evasion-giver.

I highly suggest some sort of top-deck manipulation. Unfortunately, a lot of the best cards in this arena are very expensive: Jace, the Mind Sculptor , Sensei's Divining Top and Scroll Rack all cost a pretty penny. Soothsaying is another good option, as it lets you stack heavy CMC cards on top of the deck to hit opponents more reliably.

I don't think 3-drop mana rocks are very good. I suggest Coldsteel Heart instead of Commander's Sphere .

You should consider the new ninja they spoiled today: Fallen Shinobi. I think it'll be pretty good.

I think Demonic Tutor is better than Insidious Dreams . I think you should run it if you have access to it. Lim-Dul's Vault is a good sort of tutor, is more affordable, and also allows you to stack your deck with high mana-cost cards to flip off your general.

Commandeer is a good piece of disruption with a high CMC. It's still about $20 though.

Counterspell is superior to Familiar's Ruse . Also, Mana Drain is superior to Counterspell , although that card is very difficult to get ahold of.

Windfall is a good way to refill your hand.

If your meta runs a lot of mass draw effects, Notion Thief is a good inclusion. Similarly, Ashiok, Dream Render is a good card.

Preordain is similar to Ponder and Preordain . I suggest it for the same reason the other two are good.

Bolas's Citadel is a good way to get cheaper cards off the top of your deck. Also, if you combo it with the aforementioned Sensei's Divining Top , you can clear annoying lands off the top of your library.

I don't think you should run 36 lands. Cutting 2 or 3 is very much on the table.

I see you're running extra turn cards. You should consider Time Stretch and Nexus of Fate .

Board wipes are always important in EDH. Toxic Deluge , Damnation and Cyclonic Rift are all REALLY good.

Augury Owl should be mainboard. You can play it, scry something big to the top, attack with it the next turn and then ninjutsu out your general to flip the fatty.

Repeal is a good way to return some ninjas to your hand for protection, and doubles as removal. It's also a cantrip. I also suggest Chain of Vapor as a one-mana bouncer.

Night's Whisper and Chart a Course are good two-mana draw-twos.

Jace, Wielder of Mysteries / Laboratory Maniac with Tainted Pact / Demonic Consultation is a good combo you can run as an alternate win condition.

I think there're probably better one-mana counter spells than Abjure . Dispel , Spell Pierce and Turn Aside are all good cards.

Baleful Strix is a good creature you can return with a ninja. When it enters it draws a card, so being able to repeatedly cast it will give you a lot of card advantage. Looter il-Kor and Cloud of Faeries are also good two-drops to be running, as they are difficult to block and provide extra value.

Twilight Prophet is a good card, as it draws extra and works within your decks theme.

Curtains' Call is a good, cost-reducing creature that can two-for-one your opponents.

Morphic Pool is a good dual land.

Good luck with deck building!

inGtSToRm on Kess Storm [Small Primer]

1 month ago

helldanno Thanks for the response!

  1. The consultation version of the deck tends to rely heavily on the Laboratory Maniac + Demonic Consultation or Tainted Pact plan. In this deck, consult is just an end all be all out to win. High Tide really amps up the storm plan because of the untap effects (example: Frantic Search ). On the consultation plan, if you would like to have a storm out, it would be more on the route of Paradox Engine + mana rocks. That being said, storming off that way would be more of your secondary win condition outside of Lab man and the new Jace, Wielder of Mysteries .

  2. I've considered Narset, but have yet to own a Wheel of Fortune or a Timetwister . If you have access to those cards, wheel payoffs like Narset get a lot better. As for Bolas's Citadel , running Paradox Engine would be a necessity. Adding in a 6 cmc and another 5 cmc card would bring the curve of the deck up too high in my opinion. I may test this in the future by swapping out other high cmc cards such as Mind's Desire in order to keep the curve as painless as possible off of ad nauseum.

  3. Basalt Monolith is just much worse than Grim Monolith or Mana Vault at it's 3 mana cost. If you don't own vault or grim, basalt would be fine to play until you can pick up the others.

Thanks again and let me know if you have any more questions or concerns!

SideBae on Aminatou, the Esper Child

1 month ago

Counterbalance with Aminatou seems sort of like a build-your-own one-sided Chalice of the Void ... with your Sensei's Divining Top it become bonkers.

You might also like to run Silence as combo protection; however, depending on how fast you want to go off, Teferi, Time Raveler works as well.

Depending on the meta, Supreme Verdict might be better than Kaya's Wrath . Dispel may be better than Absorb as well.

I'm not sure why you're running Warping Wail . You might want to replace it with Demonic Consultation , which also combos with your Jace.

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