|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Iconic Masters (IMA)||Rare|
|Masterpiece Series: Kaladesh Inventions (MPS)||Mythic Rare|
|Modern Masters (MMA)||Rare|
|From the Vault: Relics (V10)||Mythic Rare|
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At the beginning of your upkeep, you may put a charge counter on Æther Vial.
: You may put a creature card with converted mana cost equal to the number of charge counters on Aether Vial from your hand into play.
|Have (2)||Hellsing , lorddarkstar|
|Want (10)||Halbrech , AngryDrosophila , Stiggen , olivo426 , yesacs , Jmannen , appleseiter15 , sonnet666 , whowasfone , mike-2|
Aether Vial Discussion
1 day ago
Thank you so much for your suggestion. I had considered Metallic Mimic and Collected Company but I saw some issues with the two. I didn't like how mimic was dead in the late game. As for Company I'm still on the fence as I saw it be used more for a deck that's reactive kind of like spirits which has stuff like Spell Queller and Mausoleum Wanderer but then again it's used in elves. I like Aether Vial and will definitely attempt to incorporate it into the deck.
1 day ago
1 day ago
So after sharing ideas and looking at the direction you were headed with your list i made one of my own. Calling it Retribution Rock. So subtle differences from yours and reasons. Dryad Arbor over a Pendelhaven . i like the idea of fetching a creature to sacrifice. Other lands that peak my interest for this deck Mutavault Bojuka Bog Llanowar Reborn So a huge reason i ran Aether Vial was because of how difficult it can be casting double and triple colors. Many opponents will board in Blood Moon against me even when i was running 4 Channeler Initiate and 4 vials, and surprisingly it always tempo'd me or sometimes shut me down. So Sylvan Caryatid helps reach that triple black, since casting Geralf's Messenger is priority in this build, having a hexproof manadork helps ensure one hits the board. Also the big butt on Caryatid triggers evolve, and can absorb 2 -1/-1 counters from Plague Belcher in a pinch. Speaking of, that extra damage from a zombie dying from the Belcher can really mean the difference, hence i strongly believe in running a playset. I really look forward to my Tuesday night modern. I really look forward to pilot the deck and have creative lines of attacking and interacting with Retribution. Will report back with how it fares.
2 days ago
I love zombies. I have a few things to say about your deck that I think you should consider though. In your sideboard, you play Engineered Explosives , this is very bad in mono black because you can only get up to 1 counter on it. for mono colored decks, a similar effect can be achieved with Blast Zone or more conventionally Ratchet Bomb . About Undead Augur , life is worth far less than a card, and being able to replace zombies that have died is what I think puts this tribe over the top. Basically, I dont think lifeloss is going to be a problem, as this is the only card that will deal damage to you in your entire deck. Being mono colored means you dont take damage from your lands, making this card all the much safer. now about lands, Mutavault is awesome, but I am not sure if it has a place in zombies. The problem is that zombies require a lot of black mana, and being stuck with a Mutavault instead of another black source can be backbreaking. I see you have Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth to solve that, but it can really only be a one of, so it doesn't do a good job of solving the problem. Also Relentless Dead is Awesome, I'd try to run 4. Also Consider adding Aether Vial , trust me it is very good being able to play an instant speed Undead Augur or Carrion Feeder , or be able to put a Relentless Dead on the battlefield with mana open on turn 3 vs a heavy removal deck.
In short this is what I would say:
+1 Zombie Lord
-1 Engineered Explosives (Sideboard)
+1 Ratchet Bomb (Sideboard)
+4 Aether Vial
-4 Something, rly up to you, probably Smuggler's Copter and something else.
Anyways, awesome deck, you had some stuff in there that I never heard of and I am 100% adding now. Feel free to check out the deck I made, http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/16-06-19-mono-black-zombies/?cb=1560
5 days ago
most things that your opponent will use to target Phantasmal Image are things that would kill it anyway, so thats not really an issue. being able to copy any stackable sliver effect is huge though. as for the rainbow lands, you shouldn't have too many of those anyway. i use Sedge Sliver and Collected Company in my build as well, and almost never have trouble getting blue for Phantasmal Image . maybe it'd be easier for me to explain if i just list my manabase.
4x Bloodstained Mire 4x Polluted Delta 1x Godless Shrine 1x Overgrown Tomb 1x Blood Crypt 1x Watery Grave 1x Stomping Ground 1x Breeding Pool 1x Steam Vents 4x Sliver Hive 1x Mountain 1x Forest 1x Island 1x Plains 1x Swamp
thats 24 lands. 12 of which can produce/fetch for green, 13 of which are or fetch for a swamp, and 12 of which produce/fetch for blue. and thats before taking into account that Manaweft Sliver can make blue, or you can just Aether Vial / Collected Company the Phantasmal Image into play.
6 days ago
not sure what you mean by "utility". slivers are meant to be aggressive. Dormant Sliver just doesn't help the deck. it buys the opponent too much time to recuperate and find an answer. the only method your deck has for actually winning is to attack, and Dormant Sliver prevents that. if your opponent blows up your Necrotic Sliver while you still have a Dormant Sliver in play, you lose. the bottom line is that you're forced to attack in order to win, and pumping your slivers is the best way to put yourself in a position where you can make favorable attacks. i've been playing slivers for over 3 years in modern now, so i have a good amount of experience with what i'm talkin about. also note that slivers put into play with Aether Vial won't trigger cascade
2 weeks ago
No worries, tribal decks can be confusing at times! I've played Merfolk, Humans, Spirits, Slivers, and more, so I get it. To answer your questions:
1) Creatures like Diffusion Sliver , Leeching Sliver , and Lavabelly Sliver stack depending on how many you have. To be more technical, each additional copy would trigger its own instance. For example, if you had two Diffusion Sliver s, your opponent would decided whether or not to pay the 2 mana for the first one, but they would still have to pay 2 more mana for the second one if they wanted their spell or ability to resolve. Likewise, if you had two Leeching Sliver s or Lavabelly Sliver s, each copy would trigger separately, so the first copy would do one damage, and then the second copy would do its one damage.
2) Crystalline Sliver only affects Slivers on the battlefield. Unless its text specifically mentions cards in the graveyard, like Silent Gravestone or Grafdigger's Cage , it won't give Slivers in the graveyard shroud. Dregscape Sliver will still work.
3) I usually board in Harmonic Sliver in matchups where I expect the opponent to almost always have artifacts or enchantments present, like Affinity, Hardened Scales, or Red Prison. I rarely side Aether Vial out if I'm on the play, but if I'm on the draw, it usually gets replaced, as Vial is significantly worse on the draw. However, in matchups like the above, I prefer having Harmonic Sliver even if it means occasionally having to nuke my own Vial, as taking care of Arcbound Ravager , Hardened Scales , or things like Ensnaring Bridge or Chalice of the Void is well worth it.
Hope that helps!
2 weeks ago
I have some (stupid) questions about slivers:
I know that some Slivers (Give Lifelink, Vigilance, and so on) don't stack and some (all Slivers get +1/+1) do stack. But what about the likes of Diffusion Sliver , Leeching Sliver or the new Lavabelly Sliver . I always thought I know the rules pretty good for an amateur, but I'm really not sure anymore. :-) How can I identify if they stack or not?
If your own Aether Vial is the only artifact or enchantment on the battlefield and you play your Harmonic Sliver you must destroy your own Vial? How do you handle this in the matchups where you side in Harmonic Sliver ?
Thanks in advance.
Aether Vial occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%
All decks: 0.33%
All decks: 0.41%