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Creature — Dinosaur
, Sacrifice Thrashing Brontodon: Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
7 months ago
So I loved your suggestions but it was hard to find cards to swap them with. I Swapped Krosan Wayfarer for Springbloom Druid and I rlly wanted to add Thrashing Brontodon but I couldn't find something to swap it with. So I turned to my ramp and considered swapping in Neverwinter Dryad for Farhaven Elf but Farhaven Elf requires less mana to execute once you get the Meren recursion going so I looked away from it. With the problems I alr had with the swapping in and out cards I had to leave Manglehorn out because it didn't have as much to offer as the other things you had to offer. I put the other three is the MB so I don't forget them tho
7 months ago
Many people (like me) play Meren in more expensive / tryhard ways but I love to see people offering feedback for more budget friendly versions, so knew players or just people in casual enviroments can play with her too.
8 months ago
Thanks for commenting, Lord_of_Cardboard!
This deck would do exceptionally well against a Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger deck. This is for the same reason that cards like Jace's Archivist do so well in the deck: if you have have Muldrotha on the battlefield, any cards you discard might as well still be in your hand cause you can simply replay them from your graveyard. If anything, an opposing Kroxa player is almost helping you by disrupting your other opponents' hands.
As for a budget version of the deck, here's some advice on budget options and replacements. Just note that this is advice specific to my Muldrotha deck, i.e., advice for the big mana and big X-spell strategy. If you'd rather play a more typical creature-based, swing-to-kill type deck, there may be better Muldrotha lists to look at.
The mana base makes up a large portion of the deck's budget, and I would leave that mostly up to your own discretion. Just keep in mind that fetch lands like Evolving Wilds and slow fetches like Bad River are good for being replayed every turn with Muldrotha. Also, for a budget version of the deck, it's important to run more basics than I do since you'll probably need to fetch more with your ramp. Cycle lands like Lonely Sandbar, Tranquil Thicket, and Barren Moor are fantastic, especially with Life from the Loam. Some other good options:
Which brings me to another point: if I had to pick one somewhat expensive card that's worth putting in a budget Muldrotha deck, it's this one. It's a one-card value engine, giving you card draw, mill, and lands. And depending on what utility lands you choose to run, it can do a whole lot more. And if you're worried about Kroxa in your meta, Life from the Loam is a great counter to it, allowing you to fill your hand with lands to discard.
Now to address key cards for the deck's "big mana" strategy. Important cards for generating a lot of mana include Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Cabal Coffers, Dryad of the Ilysian Grove, Crypt Ghast, and Nyxbloom Ancient. You could just replace these cards with normal ramp; casting X-spells for X=10 is still good and easy to accomplish without these cards. If that's unsatisfying for you, you could consider options like Zendikar Resurgent and Mana Reflection. Unfortunately there aren't many great cheap options for producing a lot of mana. This is an important part of the deck though, so it's up to you if it's worth spending some extra money on it.
To avoid this comment being any more lengthy than it already is, here's an extensive list of some budget alternatives for the deck. The great thing about Muldrotha is that being able to replay removal makes a lot of sub-par removal actually pretty good, so it's pretty budget friendly.
Win-Conditions: What's in the deck isn't too expensive, but here's some cheaper options.
- Mass Manipulation
- Gelatinous Genesis
- Mind Grind
- Hydra Broodmaster
- Other hydras (there's lots of them)
- Plaguecrafter / Demon's Disciple
- Seal of Doom / Shriekmaw / Executioner's Capsule
- Night Incarnate
- Outland Liberator Flip
- Thrashing Brontodon
- Kenrith's Transformation / Frogify / Kasmina's Transmutation
- Vraska the Unseen / Ob Nixilis Reignited
- Sidisi's Faithful
Draw / Mill:
- Vessel of Nascency
- Satyr Wayfinder
- Tatyova, Benthic Druid
- Mirror-Mad Phantasm
- Dreamborn Muse
- River Kelpie
- Witching Well
- Courier's Capsule
- Omen of the Sea
- Fact or Fiction
- Forgotten Creation
- Kiora, Master of the Depths
- Springbloom Druid
- Burnished Hart
- Dawntreader Elk
- Diligent Farmhand
- Kodama's Reach
- Wayfarer's Bauble
- Font of Fertility
- Omen of the Hunt
- Yavimaya Elder
- Kiora, the Crashing Wave
Control and other good stuff:
- Zur's Weirding
- Siren Stormtamer
- Drown in the Loch
- Elephant Grass
- Scribe of the Mindful
- Malakir Rebirth Flip
- Raven's Crime
- Malevolent Hermit Flip
- Energy Flux
- Other counterspells
If you have any other questions about budget options, let me know. I'm always happy to help!
9 months ago
I can't help but notice you have zero ways to deal with noncreature permanents! Trying to win while ignoring them is a possibility, but it would be a major drag to be shut down by something like Meekstone, Teferi's Moat or Grave Pact.
I'd strongly consider making room for a few answers to such cards - some of the premiere choices include Hull Breach, Nature's Claim, Ancient Grudge, Krosan Grip and Shattering Spree. Sticking more to the creature side of things, some good options include Reclamation Sage, Outland Liberator Flip, Thrashing Brontodon, Viridian Zealot, World Breaker and the blanket-answer Bane of Progress. Hopefully some of these cards can help dig you out of tight situations in the future!
11 months ago
I suspect you'd benefit from a few more White mana sources, or things that can find them. Blighted Woodland and Myriad Landscape are readily cast ramp that can find plains for you. Krosan Verge is on colour here, and is probably worth running as well, as it can find non-basic lands for you, like the Kaldheim Snow Duals. There are also ramp spells that can find those Snow Duals, so it's not just about the pricier Fetch Lands. The relevant Snow Duals are Arctic Treeline Alpine Meadow and Highland Forest. Farseek can find Meadow at least, and things like Nature's Lore, Three Visits, Skyshroud Claim can find any that are Forests. These have no other upside, but getting access to White mana off of Three Visits is going to help. Most people just find Shock Lands with Farseek, but Snow Duals are very solid options to have.
The other thing that jumped out is the low amount artifact/enchantment hate. Cards like this are really useful in Commander, there is almost always a target, even if you draw a few of them. Viashino Heretic is good artifact hate on a stick, Devout Witness can hate on either, but is worse at it's job. You can also run Green options, which often sac the creature like Thrashing Brontodon or work as a Comes Into Play effect like Reclamation Sage. Since you have big creatures and love to have Jared get hit, Ulvenwald Tracker can arrange for Jared to get swatted by the biggest thing on the board every turn, either killing it and growing or just growing.
1 year ago
Holy creatures batman! I like the deck name and it’s interesting to see another Nikya deck! (I have a player in my playgroup that runs her). Some ideas for removal would be Thrashing Brontodon and World Breaker for artifacts and enchantments, and you could also run a Treasure Nabber to temporarily steal other players artifacts to use as your own ramp! Thunderfoot Baloth is also a fun creature for buffing your other creatures and granting trample!
1 year ago
Hey, there's not much to say yet as this is just a list of cards you want to play, nice Swordtooth. Most of what you have so far on the low budget is good, but Decree of Savagery is not playable and Sun-Crested Pterodon, Elfhame Palace, Stone Quarry are really lackluster.
Do you own Gishath? I don't see him here, but I do see Atla. If you don't own Gishath then he's really not worth getting for $20 if you're on such a low budget. Atla is a fine Commander for Dinos and you have her. For $20 you could get many budget cards that are good with Atla rather than just Gishath.
Atla and Gishath will play very differently. Gishath is more straight forward, ramp and Dinos. Atla is more complex since you want ramp, sac outlets for Eggs and Dinos. Marauding Raptor is a combo Dino with Atla to kill an Egg right when it ETB. It also triggers enrage when a Dino ETB.
Some budget Dinos to consider adding:
- Marauding Raptor
- Quartzwood Crasher
- Apex Altisaur
- Ripjaw Raptor
- Thrasta, Tempest's Roar
- The Tarrasque
- Runic Armasaur
- Thrashing Brontodon
- Ranging Raptors
Some budget cards that have good interactions with Atla and/or Dinos or are ramp:
- Mirror Entity: is a Dino, is an Egg, can turn all creatures you control into Eggs, is a sac outlet.
- Garruk's Uprising: repeatable draw when Dinos ETB and give all Dinos trample.
- Goblin Bombardment: sac outlet for Eggs and each Egg that's saced can do 1 damage to another Egg to kill it too.
- Swiftfoot Boots: haste and hexproof protection for Atla.
- Arcane Signet: staple budget mana rock.
- Fellwar Stone
- Fertile Ground
- Wild Growth
- Farseek with Cinder Glade, Canopy Vista and Alpine Meadow.
- Forerunner of the Empire: puts the Dino on the top of your library to then sac an Egg. It can also kill Eggs.
- Mwonvuli Beast Tracker: puts the Dino with trample on the top of your library to then sac an Egg.
- High Market: sac outlet.
- Tyrite Sanctum: repeatable to make Atla bigger with +1/+1 counters and then give her indestructible.
- Fanatical Devotion: sac outlet and protection from most removal.
- Court of Bounty: can cheat a Dino from your hand onto the battlefield as well as be repeatable draw at your end step.
- Battlemage's Bracers: haste and double the Egg trigger of Atla.
- Fires of Yavimaya: haste enabler for all creatures you control including tokens.
Some budget land upgrades to consider:
- Exotic Orchard
- Path of Ancestry
- Jungle Shrine
- Opal Palace: cast Atla with it to give her one or more +1/+1 counter.
- Unclaimed Territory
- High Market
- Tyrite Sanctum
- Battlefield Forge
- Cinder Glade
- Canopy Vista
- Alpine Meadow
- Game Trail
- Fortified Village
Good luck with your deck.
1 year ago
Curse of Surveillance: Yeah, one of the scarier pieces of art so far. Get some gloves!
Spellrune Painter: Not really a fan of this design; feel that there's not enough of a payoff for managing the tension between one ability that rewards you for casting multiple spells and another that rewards you for not casting.
Stuffed Bear: Haha so goofy, I love it. Kinda wish it became a 2/2 with a 1 + 1 cost tho but whatever
Sigarda's Splendor: Meh, not the hero mono-white EDH is holding out for. You've all heard the criticism of Phyrexian Arena by now, and this is both more expensive and requires you to jump trough a hoop, all while making it harder to synergize life gain with life payment.
Lier, Disciple of the Drowned: Spells, period? Were they concerned with mindless counterspelling being too efficient for card advantage? Anyway, EDH-blue got unholy abominations like Resculpt available to it, so the lack of counterspells isn't as painful as it could be. Both Dralnu and Kess have been successful in EDH, but I can't say how much Lier trading extra colors for the ability to flashback more than will hurt him. Also, the flavor text foreshadowing more lovecraftian gods feels kinda redundant with Emrakul chilling in the moon, even if it's not new.
Moonsilver Key: oof, looks like Avacyn has gone and lost her head again
Vadrix, Astral Archmage: Obviously similar to Mizzix of the Izmagnus. Similarly to Spellrune Painter, I feel the actual day/night part is kinda incidental and self-deafeating. You can use power-boosting spells as rituals. Runechanter's Pike has found a home! Also, while I mean no offense, I feel like it was a mistake to include a bald black wizard-man with a black beard, white robes and a blue jacket in the same set as Teferi. (Yes, the latter has hair on his head but it's cut very short.)
Outland Liberator: That's more like it! The front is already rubbing shoulders with Thrashing Brontodon & Caustic Caterpillar, while the back gives pretty incredible repeatable value. (Also, is the flavor of the front that she gets eaten by the wolf?)
Ludevic: Yeah I always felt that the flavor justification for Ludevic, Necro-Alchemist being red was off, the guy's so unfettered... and it looks like he's gone completly off the rails here! Despite being an absolute clusterfuck, his backside has managed to avoided Horror-typing. (And yes, Olag seems to be him and not just a new creation.) Mechanically, I feel like he's mostly a The Mimeoplasm that traded green for more self-sufficiency. He might be more useful in the 99 as a self-miller that can eventually reanimate something.
Katilda, Dawnhart Headwitch: You leave my poor furries alone, they've suffered enough! Anyway, People-elfball goooo
Dauntless Avenger: Quite nice payoff for aristocrats decks
Morbid Opportunist: I like this design, making sure something dies each turn sounds pretty fun. No nontoken clause either!
Hound Tamer: How is the flipside a "Pup"?