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Ancient Grudge Discussion
2 weeks ago
This deck sort of looks like it has consistency issues. You're only running 5 polymorph effects, 6 ways to make a creature to polymorph, and 8 cantrips (I don't really count Remand ). I guess you also have Search for Azcanta Flip, and you can flashback Faithless Looting , but one Serum Visions ? One Polymorph ? Here's how I would build this deck:
First, we go RUG. 2x Khalni Garden . 4x Sprout Swarm and 4x Sprout instead of Hordeling Outburst and Spawning Breath . 2x See Beyond , 4x Serum Visions . Ditch the Search for Azcanta Flip, Rune Snag , and Remand . Shave an Izzet Charm , a Faithless Looting , and a Lightning Bolt for 3 more Polymorph s.
You're now playing 10 polymorph-able cards instead of 6, 8 polymorph effects instead of 5, and 12 cantrips, as before. Sure, you have fewer counterspells, but Remand is not a good card no matter what people say, and Rune Snag isn't that great, either. You can even buyback Sprout Swarm if you just need to keep chump-blocking.
Is Indomitable Creativity going to be hard to cast in a 3-color deck? No, this is modern--you can play anything you want. Green would also give you access to some better sideboard options, like being able to flashback Ancient Grudge .
On an unrelated note, I feel like a deck like this could actually benefit from running an Electrodominance package that included Restore Balance due to not playing literally any creatures beyond one, but there just isn't any room for it, sadly. Still, though...you could play Wheel of Fate to pitch an emrakul you drew...you could play Ancestral Vision ...the possibilities are limitless, really.
1 month ago
<table> <caption><h4>Stock List</h4></caption> <tr> <td width="200" align=“left”><font color=#EDD9B4>Land (24)</font></td> <td width="200" align=“left”><font color=#EDD9B4>Removal (10)</font></td> <td width="200" align=“left”><font color=#EDD9B4>Sideboard (15)</font></td> </tr> <tr> <td>4x [[card:Blackcleave Cliffs]]</td><td>3x [[card:Assassins trophy]]</td><td>2x [[card:Ancient Grudge]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1x [[card:Blood Crypt (RTR)]]</td><td>2x [[card:Fatal Push]]</td><td>1x [[card:collective brutality]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>3x [[card:Bloodstained Mire (KTK)]]</td><td>2x [[card:Kolaghan's Command (DTK)]]</td><td>1x [[card:damnation]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>2x [[card:Forest]]</td><td>4x [[card:Lightning Bolt]]</td><td>1x [[card:engineered explosives (MMA)]] </td> </tr> <tr> <td>2x [[card:Overgrown Tomb (RTR)]]</td><td><font color=#EDD9B4>Creatures (15)</font></td><td>3x [[card:fulminator mage]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>3x [[card:Raging Ravine]]</td><td>4x [[card:bloodbraid elf]]</td><td>1x [[card:grafdiggers cage]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1x [[card:Stomping Ground (GTC)]]</td><td>3x [[card:Dark confidant]]</td><td>1x [[card:grim lavamancer]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>2x [[card:Swamp]]</td><td>3x [[card:scavenging ooze]]</td><td>1x [[card:kitchen finks]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1x [[card:Twilight Mire (A25)]]</td><td>4x [[card:tarmogoyf]]</td><td>1x [[card:liliana the last hope]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>4x [[card:Verdant Catacombs (MM3)]] </td><td><font color=#EDD9B4>Disruption (10)</font></td><td>2x [[card:nihil spellbomb]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td>1x [[card:Wooded Foothills (KTK)]]</td><td>4x [[card:Inquisition of Kozilek]]</td><td>1x [[card:thoughtseize]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td><td>4x [[card:Liliana of the veil]]</td> </tr> <tr> <td> </td><td>2x [[card:Thoughtseize]]</td> </tr> </table>
1 month ago
I don't have enough experience with Elves to comment on your mainboard, but I've played a TON of Gruul, so here are a few thoughts for possible inclusion in the side:
- With all the Cindervines , I'm not sure there's a need for Destructive Revelry too. And FWIW, I prefer Ancient Grudge over Revelry for almost all metas anyways.
- I generally prefer Scavenging Ooze to Relic, especially vs. Dredge.
- If Burn is a challenge, Kitchen Finks is almost unbelievably broken with Rhythm of the Wild .
- If Grixis Shadow is a challenge, Chameleon Colossus is basically just game over for them. Especially since it's an Elf too :-D
Good luck (and good skill) with the brew!
1 month ago
Thanks for checking it out and the suggestions ReaperGeko! I am definitely going to add Scavenging Ooze in the SB and check out Wild Cantor . I do like Nature's Claim as well, but I do have Ancient Grudge for instant speed artifact removal w/ flashback to top it off. That being said I probably do not need 4 pieces of side artifact hate, but it sure is fun dropping a T2 or T3 Creeping Corrosion after affinity has just dumped their entire hand. To me Hornet Queen is a great versatile threat, that can either hold up huge creatures that our opponent has because they cannot attack into 5 deathtouchers and buy us turns to go off and win. It can also easily be a finisher with Kessig Wolf Run or a final on Garruk Wildspeaker . I used to run Primal Command in the mainboard in this deck and more often than not I would tutor up the Queen with it.
1 month ago
Trying to push as close to all-permanents as I can get, and build upon the light Aristocrats theme.
2 months ago
Appreciate all the feedback guys!
weezle101 I will definitely keep Fracturing Gust in mind while playing and see if I think it out weighs Creeping Corrosion . I am just worried that one turn extra to play it can make a games difference against affinity, I was actually considering switching to Ancient Grudge for more speed and versatility.
2 months ago
As an additional P.S. ...
2019 is just getting started of course, but we've actually had six Artifact hate cards in the Top 20, over the last two weeks: Abrade #2, Ceremonious Rejection #6, Nature's Claim #7, Stony Silence #9, Ancient Grudge #14, Knight of Autumn #20.
2 months ago
clayperce i actually did a lil check too. Jan 13, 2019 top 8 decks all ran 2-3 artifact hate cards other than kci running 4. i dont think its gone up over time, i think its just we have many different choices nowadays versus Ancient Grudge and Stony Silence from the past.
it is very interesting data tho. personally i think 2-3 artifact hate cards is pretty low, especially with most of the top 8 decks on that particular date atleast running 2 side.
Ancient Grudge occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.0%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%