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Boros Signet Discussion
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
Hey, well done so far, but Zelalpa looks way out of place, almost a meme. You can build your own Zelalpa with Syr + equipment :)
Consider more lands or better yet mana rocks? With a mana curve avg. of 3.7 that's high for only 33 lands and no mana rocks. You risk not being able to cast spells from your hand because you're land screwed. Mana rocks and other additional mana sources can help gameplay.
- Sol Ring
- Arcane Signet
- Knight of the White Orchid : Knight, land ramp, can get a Plains dual land such as Godless Shrine .
- Forging the Tyrite Sword : ramp with two treasures, third turn it's an equipment tutor.
- Commander's Sphere
- Orzhov Signet
- Boros Signet
- Rakdos Signet
- Mind Stone
Some other ways to help gameplay are to include more repeatable draw:
- Sram, Senior Edificer
- Mask of Memory : equip, repeatable loot.
- Zephyr Boots : equip, flying, repeatable loot.
- Midnight Reaper , Knight, helps against board wipes.
- Akiri, Fearless Voyager
Sram and Akiri are not Knights, but they're worth including because of repeatable draw effects with equipment. Can also improve game play with other draw effects:
Armory is like draw since it can tutor for your best equipment.
Some budget land upgrades to consider:
- Command Tower
- Exotic Orchard
- Unclaimed Territory
- Path of Ancestry
- Nomad Outpost
- Caves of Koilos
- Battlefield Forge
- Rogue's Passage : make Syr unblockable.
- Axgard Armory : equipment tutor.
- Smoldering Marsh
- Ash Barrens
Would you like more advice? I offer more advice in another comment. Good luck with your deck.
4 weeks ago
Hey jakeyuki12! I do use the standard London mulligan for my commander games. While I would normally agree with you in the fact the land count is rather low, with this particular deck being so low to the ground we can consistently hit our curve. You'd be surprised at how quickly you can run out of things to do if you've got too many lands.
With my mana base, I've got a lot of 0 drop and 1 drop artifacts, and cards like Thrill of Possibility to pitch to the grave to fuel my 3D printer, so it's normal to open with a hand of 1 or 2 lands and have 3 artifacts we can cast on turn 1. Additionally in playtesting I didn't really like using Faithless Looting , simply because I didn't want to run many sorceries in the deck, we've got a handful of targets for Isochron Scepter and with the way I'd play this deck I'd much rather be casting instants over sorceries.
Osgir has a unique ability to crack open an artifact and turn it into 2, in the Mana Weaving section of my deck description we cover all the ways we can do this. We end up with a lot of mana, and most of the time it's not even from the land base. With this being a high-power deck as well, we look for a turn 5-7 win, not technically cEDH, but we don't want to drag it out too long.
I have a scenario actually from a night of commander games. Taught me to really take in everything going on at the table. The board just got wiped by an Ashling the Pilgrim boosted by a Dictate of the Twin Gods and the active player healed a ton through Basilisk Collar , my board had a bunch of artifacts that stuck around. Notably 2 Thousand-Year Elixir s, 4 Sol Ring s, 8 Wurm tokens from 4 copies of Wurmcoil Engine , 2 Coveted Jewel s, Boros Signet and I believe Rings of Brighthearth , nothing of value in hand, also only on 4 lands at like turn 6 or 7, not an uncommon occurrence. In my grave I had a ton of artifacts, one of them being Mirage Mirror . Life Totals for the 3 players remaining were 158 for the Ashling player, 28 for the player across from me, and I was at 14. So doing the math my turn, I had to kill everyone somehow, I drew and it wasn't Basalt Monolith , which would give me infinite mana for my Walking Ballista in the grave I could get out with Myr Retriever ... so first thing was first, I recast Osgir for 6 mana tapping those Coveted Jewels. Then I used my lands and my signet to reconstruct Mirage Mirror 4 times thanks to Rings, paid 8 mana into 4 different Mirage Mirrors to make copies of a thing. We chose to make 4 Dictate of the Twin Gods and swung 3/3 Wurms for the win. Doing the math, one 3/3 dealt 96 damage with 5 Dictates in play. With all of this situational stuff it doesn't explain much, but it shows that the land base doesn't matter all the time, 1 land and 2 land opening hands in paper magic are a common thing for this deck, and that's fine, we make more mana along the way. Not everything has to be statistically accurate when it comes to making your own mana.
1 month ago
- Boros Signet
- Ash Barrens
- Evolving Wilds
- Rugged Prairie
- Scavenger Grounds
- 3 Plains
- 3 Mountain
- Random Land (Basic OR Mutavault )
1 month ago
I see the deck doesn't look much like it did before. 2.4 advantage cmc is definitely decent. I would like to start by saying I'm really glad to see some staple tutors in your list, i know you were initially against them but a little consistency in your 99 card deck doesn't hurt. So I noticed you don't run any mana rocks, which i think is a bit of a mistake. Mana rocks help you power up by getting with equip costs when you don't have a better way of getting them onto your commander automatically. Sol Ring , Talisman of Conviction , Boros Signet , Mind Stone and especially Thought Vessel would be good includes to make sure you're able to ramp those equipment onto your commander. On that note Danitha Capashen, Paragon while not as good as stoneforge or puresteel, is very decent at reducing those pesky equip costs. Also, Spirit Mantle is unblockable and lets you draw a card. Other than that you may want to think about removal: Swords to Plowshares , Path to Exile , Generous Gift , and/or Chaos Warp are good answers. I'd also think about utilizing Sunforger because it can fetch any if your answer cards. I know most of these suggestions aren't really the "fun" cards to run, but it'll keep you in the game more often than not and help you stop your opponents from going off via combo kill.
I'd cut trusty retriever because if you need either of those effects then there's lower cmc cards that you could do that with. Blood mist good card, but it's not an aura or an equipment so even though it's a neat effect I wouldn't run it. Metalworker probably does pretty decent with all your card draw, but it's giving away a lot of information for a deck that's trying to win through combat. Sculpting steel, I've never really liked how this card ends up working, our not working in most cases lol. Thespian's stage, you're going to spend too much time and resources on it getting it set up for the pay off to be good enough. Spectral steel doesn't give enough of a boost and the graveyard ability it's really worth it either. Idyllic tutor I can appreciate the fact that you're running tutors, but you're leaning into the equipments and only running the cream of the crop of auras... So spending 3 mana to search for an enchantment isn't ideal. Kor cartographer is too much mana to only get 1 plains, if you really want that effect you could get Solemn Simulacrum so that you could search for a mountain if you really need to. Encroaching wastes I'm not a fan of land destruction, especially eye for an eye types, especially if you have to pay 4 and lose a land to do it. Sword of body and mind good protections, but the 2/2 wolf is not great and the mill can be actively bad against graveyard decks, especially when you don't have graveyard hate. Knight of the white orchid i love this creature, but it's limited possible land fetch that doesn't do much else, I'd suggest Keeper of the Accord because it's repeatable. Disenchant I'd suggest running Heliod's Intervention because it's more flexible and can be used for life gain if needed.
Besides that it's looking sharp, you've got some serious power in this deck. I really like wyleth and i think it's a very fun and powerful deck. Wyleth is an engine and a win condition in one, which is very hard to find. Again, don't take my suggestions as criticisms, it's just what i would do if it were my deck (honestly I'd trade that metalworker for a Mana Crypt , Teferi's Protection , and a Smothering Tithe lol)
2 months ago
sorry for spam
i forgot to mention ramp should cost less then average cmc to be functional
with a deck average of 3 you want to consistently have 3 upright and available on 3
so Rakdos Signet , Orzhov Signet , & Boros Signet
would out perform Commander's Sphere , Mardu Banner , Savai Crystal
4 signets + 3 Talismans puts you at 7 , you would need 8 more sources to consistently have one in opening hand
2 months ago
Awesome deck! Love the commander. Certainly one of those I love seeing at the table because I know there's going to be a lot of fun.
Some recommendations for cuts: Ancestral Blade seems kind of weak for the deck. Give you a token you cant recur with Alesha and only gives +1/+1. Boros Signet and Rakdos Signet , as I don't generally like the signet's, but I know a lot of people like them. Promise of Tomorrow seems like a good win con card, but it doesn't work with this deck since Alesha want's to bring creatures back from the graveyard. Inspiring Captain seems like a good card for the deck, but you cant bring it back with Alesha and really will only help once or twice at best. Archetype of Aggression , Rogue's Passage , Demystify , Return to Dust , Shimmering Grotto , and Take Vengeance , are other cut's ID make personally. They don't add enough or do enough and there better options available.
I could see Rise of the Dark Realms being an awesome card with this deck, but it fits in almost all deck hahah.
I hope these recommendations helped. Upvote from me.
2 months ago
So honestly, the thing your deck is going to suffer from the most, is the same most other Kaalia of the Vast decks suffer from. Kaalia is a Kill on Sight commander. I think trying to get her out quicker and protect her to enable you to start triggering her abilities and swinging in is going to be the biggest issue.
Lightning Greaves and Swiftfoot Boots will enable Kaalia to be protected and have haste when she comes out to play, and just simple ramp like Rakdos Signet , Orzhov Signet , Boros Signet and also the Talismans as well, could really help you speed up getting Kaalia down, and doing what she needs to do.
Hope this helps