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Kamahl, Fist of Krosa
Legendary Creature — Human Druid
: Target land becomes a 1/1 creature until end of turn. It's still a land.
: Creatures you control get +3/+3 and gain trample until end of turn. (This creature can deal excess combat damage to the player or planeswalker this is attacking if lethal combat damage would be dealt to all blocking creatures.)
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Last_Laugh on Your Old Friend Yew
2 weeks ago
Champion of Lambholt and Odric, Master Tactician will help you get damage through. Mirror Entity and Kamahl, Fist of Krosa will give you some finishing power.
Eternal Witness is 1 toughness and can be returned off pretty much anything dying... while returning something else to hand.
Well, I have an Abzan list but different commanders. Feel free to check out that list for some ideas on things like draw, removal, etc. that's not deck specific. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Added Layers of Protection - Tymna & Sidar
DreadKhan on Thantis the Warweaver
2 months ago
For Clackbridge, ymmv but I felt like mentioning that I've been burnt by it lots of times. I'm sure there are metas where it's a much better card, where people consistently have nothing they want to sacrifice, in my experience I was giving my opponent a free sac outlet every turn that also turned off my 8/8, which felt legit bad.
I use Deathtouch/Trample in my OG Multani deck, it's not especially rare for him to swing as a 30/30 vs the first opponent I'm going to eliminate, those two together usually means they can't block enough of his power to survive. Having both on an 8/8 is fine, but it's really great when you can get over 20 power with some consistency, I could see Grismold achieving that by the time you're ready to eliminate someone.
My issue with Sunder Shaman is that there are so, so many better ways to remove artifacts and enchantments in Jund, and most of them aren't RRGG to cast, an officially awkward to cast spell. I know he's got Green here, but I remember trying to make Kaya's Wrath work in an Esper deck. It proved consistently impossible to cast, and when I could it held up other stuff because it's just too colour intensive. Something like Kogla, the Titan Ape is probably many times the card, providing a bigger body that fights something on ETB sounds a lot better, add in that Kogla is maybe easier to cast with a bigger board presence and I feel the point should be made. If you want something small that can do something similar, there is Caustic Wasps, which is evasive and kills artifacts, as well as stuff like Thrashing Brontodon and Reclamation Sage, without using a non-creature option. Sunder Shaman seems to combine a so-so body with an ability that isn't particularly easy to guarantee, people can stop your attacks in a variety of ways and Shaman needs to deal damage. Kogla just needs to swing and something is getting blown up, that's much more relevant. If you want something earlier than Kogla you can use Outland Liberator Flip, which can work without attacking and on every attack if you can get it flipped, I'd actually say that's a lot more consistent than Shaman. If anything I'd run more artifact/enchantment removal, there are tons of people who run infuriating stuff like Propaganda and even the dreaded War Tax. If I was building Thantis like this, I think I'd want War Cadence, very politically relevant. I personally love removal in most decks, and I wouldn't hesitate to run some in a deck like this, especially clunky damage based wipes, because Thantis can be huge sometimes and survive a Blasphemous Act.
Haha, I think Duo AND Crown would be pretty absurd, both only hurt your opponents. Still, I do agree he might be trying to do too many things at once here, and that's why it's hard to cut cards.
Monarch is a good way to get people swinging, but Coveted Jewel is the real 'kingmaker' you can run to create utter chaos. It's one thing to turn down 1 free card, but to turn down 3 mana and 3 cards is just madness, and letting someone else keep that 3 mana for their next turn is likewise unacceptable, so it can create a ton of chaos. Something like Kamahl, Fist of Krosa could be pretty interesting, if a land is a creature it either has to get tapped down or swung with, and small creatures die. Jolrael, Empress of Beasts can turn their entire land base into 3/3s. I'm not saying you should threaten people's mana bases, but I'd feel remiss if I didn't bring it up.
Re: running more Green ramp, I like to run more Green mana sources in a deck that runs lots of Green ramp, as long as I have Green ramp and Green mana I can find whatever other mana I want. There are so many decent 2 and 3 mana ramp spells in Green, even stuff like Wood Elves or Farhaven Elf can work beautifully, if you dig out a tapped dual it feels pretty good with Wood, Farhaven just finds whatever basic you need.
fadelightningmm on Hidden Power - Mono-Color - …
2 months ago
I have 8 decks I regularly play and Kamahl, Fist of Krosa is the finisher in two of them. Great card easy infinite mana outlet that can turn a board of 3 creatures into lethal
Tur on Hidden Power - Mono-Color - …
2 months ago
Hello everyone! This will be a forum post for a "Commander - Hidden Power" series. My goal is to show relatively inexpensive cards which are often overlooked by commander players in semi-competitive and casual play. (This post is not designed for competitive play.) If you enjoy the topic, please upvote the post or provide positive feedback and I will consider creating similar posts.
The powerful cards I plan on discussing are mono-color cards which are strong with big mana in commander.
I will provide one card per mono-color identity. These cards will not include x-spells nor multi-color identity spells. (I.e. no Torment of Hailfire nor Zacama, Primal Calamity)
It is obvious that big mana is a huge part of semi-competitive play. Whether it is from ramping through creatures, artifacts, enchantments, instants, sorceries, or lands. Big mana is pretty fun. Mana doubling effects from lands are especially useful. In this article, I'll be focusing on mana doubling from lands, but other ways to generate big mana are always possible
Here are some common big mana effects for each mono-color identity:
- White (W) : Caged Sun, Gauntlet of Power, Extraplanar Lens
- Blue (U) : Caged Sun, Gauntlet of Power, Extraplanar Lens, High Tide
- Black (B) : Caged Sun, Gauntlet of Power, Extraplanar Lens, Crypt Ghast, Nirkana Revenant, Cabal Coffers, Magus of the Coffers
- Red (R) : Caged Sun, Gauntlet of Power, Extraplanar Lens, Gauntlet of Might
- Green (G) : Caged Sun, Gauntlet of Power, Extraplanar Lens, Mana Reflection, Zendikar Resurgent, Nyxbloom Ancient, Vernal Bloom
This is not an all inclusive list as Mana Flare, Heartbeat of Spring, Keeper of Progenitus, Sword of Feast and Famine, et cetera would work just as well. In each mono-color identity the artifacts Caged Sun, Gauntlet of Power, and Extraplanar Lens can be used, however the black and green color identities have an advantage for mono-color double mana effects. Furthermore, green contains cards such as Seedborn Muse, Awakening, and Wilderness Reclamation which allow for more interactions.
Well, let us begin in WUBRG order!
White: Sacred Mesa
This card is relatively unused. According to EDHREC, Sacred Mesa is played in 1511/849227 (0%) decklists and is under one dollar. You'd be surpized how powerful this card is with double mana. Imagine making some number of pegasus at instant speed as either blockers or attackers for your next turn. (The upkeep cost can be paid by making a summoning sick pegasus during your turn.) Not to mention power and toughness buffing effects are ideal with Sacred Mesa, examples include Dictate of Heliod, Cathars' Crusade, Caged Sun, or Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite.
It is often compared to Luminarch Ascension because they have similar effects. Yes, it makes a 4/4 angel instead of a 1/1 pegasus.
However, Luminarch Ascension has many downsides:
- You have to have four quest counters to use the ability. (That is, you have to not lose life during an opponents turn four times.) This creates a huge target on your life total and you'll see it surely chip away.
- Bounce effects, such as Cyclonic Rift really mess it up. Welcome back to square one!
- Common cards, such as Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider prevent quest counters from even occurring. Vampire Hexmage or Hex Parasite are also options to remove the counters.
Sacred Mesa is way more versatile and does not have such downsides. Not to mention is it only three mana, ideal for Sun Titan recursion.
It is very rare to see this wonderful card. According to EDHREC, Compulsion is played in 1000/945324 (0%) decklists and is under one dollar. Having an activated draw ability with very little downside on a blue enchantment is insane. Ideal when paired with Teferi's Ageless Insight or Thought Reflection. There are a few cards which have a similar effect, such as Triskaidekaphile or Kefnet the Mindful without having to discard a card, but having a two mana activation is much more versatile. I suppose that an argument could be made with Training Grounds, but that is too much just to make the Kefnet the Mindful ability more cost effective. Furthermore, discarding a specific card like Echo of Eons, Wonder, or a shuffle Eldrazi such as Kozilek, Butcher of Truth has some nice synergy. (In fact, it should be played in most bant enchantress decks, such as the commander Tuvasa the Sunlit. Replenish for life!)
Black: Chainer, Dementia Master
This is a wonderful card, but a little pricey compared to the previous two cards. According to EDHREC, Chainer, Dementia Master is played in 6344/983251 (1%) decklists and is approximately ten dollars. Yes, we all know that you can abuse Chainer, Dementia Master with Gray Merchant of Asphodel or Kokusho, the Evening Star with sacrifice outlets such as Phyrexian Altar. Suppose we don't want to abuse this card into the ground is it still just good card? Yes. We can fill up or graveyard with Buried Alive or Entomb and get back a creature card, or we can grab a creature card from an opponents graveyard. It can also be used to interrupt graveyard combos, such as Aristocrats by using the ability on an opponents Butcher Ghoul with the undying trigger on the stack.
An extremely powerful and undervalued card. According to EDHREC, Scourge of Kher Ridges is played in 1005/912333 (0%) decklists and is under three dollars. If you're able to untap with Sourge of Kher Ridges and double mana, your opponents are going to have a rough time. As you can put multiple activations on the stack, it provides you with a very high on-board presence. Even within a response to removal. I've heard players complain that Scourge of Kher Ridges dies too quick to removal and my answer is "from your opponents perspective it needs to die before you're able to untap". Ideal with lifelink (and deathtouch) equipment such as Basilisk Collar or Shadowspear.
Green: Kamahl, Fist of Krosa
Typically unseen in play. According to EDHREC, Kamahl, Fist of Krosa is played in 4786/880991 (1%) decklists and is approximately five dollars. It is odd how unused Kamahl, Fist of Krosa is compared to Ezuri, Renegade Leader when they basically have the same effect. Overrun as an activated ability which is stackable multiple times. I agree that Ezuri, Renegade Leader is better in elf tribal decks, however Kamahl, Fist of Krosa is great in most big mana decks. Ideal for wide aggro. Tall aggro will gain the benefit of trample. If you don't have extra creatures you can animate your lands as 1/1 attackers, correction 7/7 attackers. (Pretty interesting because these attackers get around Cyclonic Rift, they're lands.) You can also get some payback by animating your opponents lands in response to a creature board wipe. (From that reasoning it can be paired with cards such as Ascendant Evincar and Crovax, Ascendant Hero to destroy opponents lands through animation.)
All in all, these are relatively unused cards which have a lot hidden power with big mana. If your deck is mono-colored and designed for big mana spells or abilities, think about giving these cards a chance. See if they work well for you and your playgroup.
PulsarGR on Azusa, lost but seeking
5 months ago
I used to run Kamahl, Fist of Krosa in this deck and the mana dorks are remnants of that build I guess. Burgeoning I have but somehow I forgot to update my list thanks for reminder. Ramping with spells thins my deck in the process. I am not a fan of t1 commander plays in casual play groups. But for competition you're right about crypt and lotus. I will update the list shortly once I get some of the cards you guys helped me pick.As for rhe mana dorks I am a little hesitant to remove... for now.
Worx on Competitive Captain Sisay (Proven)
11 months ago
MstrCpr Thanks mate. It's been in the works a VERY long time and has won many many tournaments.
The Paradox Engine ban was at first a disaster, but now, I can still win turn 5-6 virtually all the time, and IF I get a good draw, then I can still win turn 4! ;)
I haven't made any notes for a long time and I really should update...
But to answer your questions regarding Vivien, Monsters' Advocate, Ashaya, Soul of the Wild, Ugin, the Spirit Dragon, and Eight-and-a-Half-Tails;
Let's just say that I am constantly tossing up whether to include Akroma's Memorial or not due to it's mana cost and the introduction of Crashing Drawbridge. I deliberately stay away from mana costs of non-creatures of higher than 4 so Gaddock Teeg is not an issue. So having a planeswalker of Vivien, with a cost of 5 with no real instant win - I just can't see it's value. Same with Ugin - just an overkill and horrendous cost of 8.
Ashaya is just to expensive for what it does. I mean I used to ALWAYS run the combo Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite and Kamahl, Fist of Krosa for win in removing opponents lands. But I also have a lot of wincons now so I just want to keep the mana costs down.
Eight Tails was a card I used to run, but I found I rarely needed it in Tournaments and if you are doing it only for removing opponents lands, then the above said Elesh Norn/Kamahl wins hands down.
The latest iteration and what I am working on is to ensure I can get the 'haste' out easily, ie Oswald Fiddlebender with artifact tutor so I can get Thousand-Year Elixir out, and then I can again remove Akroma's Memorial, and put back in Masako the Humorless
The deck has undergone a LOT of changes over the years, but still kicks butt and is VERY reliable. (I did sell some cards - mainly lands and foils - kicking myself over selling my foils of Selvala, Heart of the Wilds) So hat's why the lands don't seem 'stable'.
Thanks for commenting and the appreciation.
Fuzzy003 on When did you start playing, …
1 year ago
Started in 2002 during the Odyssey block. Began with a few friends lending me decks to play. Got a few boosters but couldn't make anything to compete until I got one of the precons. "Painflow" was my first and Thriss, Nantuko Primus introduced me to my love of big green stompy things. My first self made deck was spirits and anthems eg Phantom Nishoba + Mirari's Wake.
Bought and played casually fairly often up to Kamigawa.
End of '05 had some new owners take over one of my LGS. Got them to start hosting FNM and PTQ tourneys. Stuck around for the FNM but wasn't a fan of the PTQ crowd. They sold up around 2010-11 and I didn't get along with the new owner(neither did 90% of the other customers) and ended up saving a couple of decks to play and sold off most of my collection.
Started playing again last year when my house mate began catching up with some of our old magic buddies. Been grabbing singles and making decks but not going as nuts as I had previously.
Still miss when the Fat Packs came with the book for the set they were attached to and probably have the novels floating around in a storage box somewhere...
Still think the Odyssey block as a whole is still my fav and still use cards from them in some of my current decks(shoutout to my barbarian buddy Kamahl, Pit Fighter, the Lightning Bolt on legs).
Still miss some of the janky oddball decks we used to play back in the day when we couldn't find a playset of the cards we wanted so some other synergistic interactions went in and you'd occasionaly come accross a combo that you were not even looking for(looking at you Goblin Sharpshooter and my druid buddy Kamahl, Fist of Krosa).
Not so much a fan of power creep in the game. I like to play and see some of the interesting ideas my friends come up with, just a little disapointed when it's like a turn 3 I win... I've made decks that can compete with the speed but don't overly enjoy playing them.
If one of our players could be bothered making some EDH decks we'd play more of that as most of us enjoy the swings and round-abouts of that style of play rather than the speed of constructed 60's.
I've tried Arena and it's a good way to play when everyone else is busy but the social side of things is why I came back to playing again. Still play other games(board/rpg) with other members of my group so if Magic starts to feel stale again I've still got other reasons to go see people.
LinkOpensChest_wav on Yikes! Humans!
1 year ago
Today is payday, so I'm ordering Tireless Tracker, Champion of Lambholt, Kyler, Sigardian Emissary, and Devout Chaplain. Tireless Tracker hurt to buy, but I don't think it's likely to come down in price anytime soon, so I think it was a good investment.
I ordered Beast Whisperer too. Poor elf is going to feel a bit out of place amidst all these humans and angels, but hopefully they'll accept him :P
Harmonize is cheap, so that was a no-brainer as well.
I've also started to think what I can cut and what I can replace.
I will cut: Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa, Kamahl, Fist of Krosa, Cathar's Call, Durable Handicraft, Lunarch Veteran Flip
I will add: Tireless Tracker, Citadel Siege, Parallel Lives, Cathars' Crusade, Beastmaster Ascension
I'm not sure yet where I'll add some of the other cards I just ordered, but I'll have to tinker around with the deck and see where I can replace things to get the most value. I might backtrack on some of this too after next time I play it. Cards like Cathars' Crusade and Beastmaster Ascension might put a mark on me, whereas sometimes those small budget spells can fly a bit more under the radar, such as Durable Handicraft. It doesn't really have a "reputation".
You're amazing though. I feel like you should get some credit as this deck's co-author haha
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