Echo of Eons
Each player shuffles their hand and graveyard into their library, then draws seven cards.
Flashback (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then Exile it.)
|Have (2)||Bluboltar ,|
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|Modern Horizons (MH1)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Echo of Eons Discussion
3 days ago
I like your substitute for Intuition. Very nice. Personally, I would cut one Careful Study since you aren't playing Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath, and in it's place I'd play an additional Just the Wind or a Savage Swipe for removal.
Your sideboard is going to need a way to deal with other decks that toolbox the graveyard. If you cannot afford Echo of Eons I would recommend just playing a few copies of Tormod's Crypt. The burn matchup can be tough without Uro. For this reason, I recommend you also side two copies of Golgari Brownscale as well.
Job well done on making the deck more budget. I look forward to watching the deck's progress. Cheers!
2 weeks ago
Cards to play: Psychosis Crawler which will reward you for drawing by dealing damage. Ob Nixilis, the Hate-Twisted is the better ob nixilis for this deck. Whispering Madness, Dark Deal, Reforge the Soul, Magus of the Wheel, Incendiary Command, Wheel of Fate, Time Reversal, Echo of Eons are all wheel effects that make your opponents suddenly draw a ton of cards that will then let you deal damage to everyone. Prosperity Will have everyone drawing equally. Izzet Signet, Dimir Signet, Rakdos Signet, Arcane Signet are decent mana rocks you're missing. Arcane Denial counters a spell and lets them draw and replaces itself. Stormfist Crusader howling mine effect but punishes at the same time.
Cards to take out. Pillage Very inefficient. Quest for Ancient Secrets Very slow. Sadistic Sacrament not really what this deck is truly wanting to do. Shrieking Affliction 99/100 games your opponents will have more than 1 card in hand. Darksteel Plate just too expensive to be good for this deck. Ob Nixilis Reignited not as good as the other ob nixilis. Cerebral Vortex not usually going to deal massive damage and only damages 1 opponent. Painful Quandary I like this card and probably wouldn't get rid of it, but your opponents will usually have the card to discard. Crawlspace not really going with your overall game plan, it does slow your opponents down,but not by enough. Nin, the Pain Artist it's a lot of mana to sink into an effect like this. Curse of Fool's Wisdom only targets 1 player, it's really too limited. Torbran, Thane of Red Fell a lot of your debate sources are black, this is decent with your commander but not much else. Reverberate I didn't see a huge number of decent targets forthis spell and it doesn't do a whole lot of good. Darksteel Ingot I don't personally like seeing 3 cost mana ramp, I'd suggest replacing it with a signet.
I would like to say that I really like your deck, it's an interesting take on an interesting commander. This is meant to be constructive and all with the best intentions.
1 month ago
Cornelius_1216, the deck has even surprised me with its performance. This isn’t anything competitive by any means, because I wanted something that would be fun for me to pilot, but the deck can just blow up out of nowhere on turns 4-6. I’m glad you were able to find some stuff out of my brew to include to yours. Feel free to send me a link to your Omnath, Locus of Creation. I’d definitely like to check it out!
Metachemist, I am definitely on board with cutting Nissa, Vital Force and Echo of Eons for Enlightened Tutor and Worldly Tutor. Felidar Retreat I wanted to give a shot, but you do make valid points and I can make the cut for Fierce Guardianship. I think I might opt for Deflecting Swat over the other counter cards. Though I would need to cut something else over Wheel of Fortune. That card has disrupted my opponents hands and giving me a desperately needed full hand many times than none. I’m definitely open to more feedback from you.
1 month ago
So I have some more suggestions that I think would help tighten up the deck a bit, it leans it more towards combo/control but hear me out.
Cuts: Nissa, Vital Force it's good and it's synergy but I think we can do better.
Wheel of Fortune I know that draw is an issue for you but! I think this and Echo of Eons better fit in a deck that want to take advantage of the parity of up to 3 other opponents drawing that many cards.
My last cut is Felidar Retreat this card is cute and synergy but again I think we can do better
Adds: Fierce Guardianship tapped out from a big turn but couldn't quite close out the game? Would a Wrath or Counter really wreck your plans? Tell them to bugger off.
2 months ago
DeinoStinkus and , you're both gems! I appreciate it!
- totally agree on Temple Bell, et al. High cc's and we don't want to hand our opponent the perfect wrench to throw in our machine, especially if Nekusar isn't there to make the drawn cards work in my favor.
How do you both feel about the reanimation elements of the deck? Do you think they're a nice addition to the amount of drawing/discarding that Nekusar and his opponents are doing, or does it distract from the real task at hand: draw/discard pain?
2 months ago
how do you feel about
Scapeshift into Crop Rotation
it would allow you to turn any tapped land into an untapped cradle
and maybe Cultivate into Echo of Eons
dredge from loom is a fantastic mechanic but you loose out on cardvantage
an echo for its flashback cost feels like a power play once you have your lands ripped out of the deck
2 months ago
In defense on the consistency of +7 Storm, there is quite incredible consistency in the sheer redundancy of the effect. If we’re just looking at goldfishing consistency, it’s actually pretty impressive how smooth it keeps the wheels spinning. That doesn’t discount the argument of giving counters to your opponent. Just to say that it doesn’t stumble over itself that frequently. Echo of Eons is a fantastic spinner that is best pals with LED and thrives off being discarded by earlier wheels. The deck can fizzle in goldfishing but that’s really rare. Like exiling three named Demonic Consultation targets in your top six and finding the last on the bottom kind of rare.
Just pray your opponent doesn’t have Mindbreak Trap!
I’m not a Vintage officionado but I do think there’s space for a format over Vintage. I certainly hope I’m not conveying advocacy for removing the Restricted List. I think there’s space for safe Vintage (Legacy), Vintage, and unsafe Vintage (UV).
Keep on the mill out idea. I know there’s Paradigm Shift as well and plenty of ways to get the mill. Are there enough redundant mill out conditions (Oracle, Maniac, Jace)? I don’t know. So far, I’m having trouble assembling traditional one-meets-two combo with consistency. I think Doomsday sets up Oracle to win independently which is likely better than trying to get two separate pieces together.
2 months ago
I think my inclusions of Black Lotus makes pretty clear what the best card printed is.
If you look at my combo decks they do in fact either run wheels, or Recall. I think I have two that run both. Cold Wheels and Breakfast. Mind Funeral has it. I’m thinking about making Mind Funeral a control shell. But I do in fact utilize Recall. Maybe it would make the prison decks better. They would need testing. Do you have recommendations of what to remove?
The reason I don’t rely on those draw spells in the prison decks is the sheer redundancy. The enchantment prison deck not so much but there’s a lot of overlap in how the pieces effect the combo decks. But the prison decks, aside from Dredge, are the only decks that don’t have either Recall or a spinner of some kind (Wheel of Fortune, Windfall, Echo of Eons, Timetwister, Memory Jar).
Am I missing something? Timetwister rotates everybody’s hand. Narset, Parter of Veils is strong but is there much redundancy of that effect? Then you have to make room for it. Possible. Karn, the Great Creator works in Stax because it’s a redundant effect. I don’t think Narset has that kind of backing.