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Talisman of Progress
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Talisman of Progress Discussion
4 days ago
Get rid of Manalith , Pristine Talisman , and Darksteel Ingot for the Talismans: Talisman of Hierarchy , Talisman of Dominance , and Talisman of Progress . Condemn should be replaced by something like Utter End , Anguished Unmaking , Murder , Go for the Throat , or some better removal spell that will actually remove something. You are running in here, so play to it's strengths. Instead of Curse of the Swine , I'd run something more like In Garruk's Wake or Plague Wind . Yeah, they are a high CMC, but they're budget, and one-sided. Day of Judgment would be a decent option, too.
You're running Wizard's Retort with only one Wizard in your deck. Cut it for 2 CMC counterspell or another removal piece.
Book of Rass is Book of Ass in this deck; the only colors I run Book of Rass in is Boros, because Boros sucks at card draw. With all the lifegain, Necropotence could be worth the risk to run. can be tough to pull off in a three-color deck, but it might be worth a shot in this deck with all the lifegain. Arguel's Blood Fast Flip and Erebos, God of the Dead are other options to consider.
2 weeks ago
Way too many lands and your ramp package needs some major tlc (aka drop EVERY rock that costs 3 and only adds 1 mana).
Boros Signet , Azorius Signet , Izzet Signet , Talisman of Progress , Talisman of Conviction , Talisman of Creativity , Fellwar Stone , Pentad Prism , Basalt Monolith , Worn Powerstone , and Coalition Relic should ALL be in here. Don't drop any of the above rocks, add more if your budget allows Lotus Petal , Mana Vault , Moxes, etc.
Feel free to check out my list for inspiration. It's got a gross overall price tag but still plenty of affordable options (i.e. GET Strionic Resonator IN HERE). Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Narset, American Beauty
2 weeks ago
Hey, looks good, but you left out Approach of the Second Sun in the deck list, the main wincon you want to use?
Unfortunately, Approach with rebound doesn't work to win you the game. A rebounded Approach is being cast from exile not from your hand. Because you must cast Approach from your hand to win as long as you did cast Approach any other way at any other point in a game. The extra turns and draw spells are good with rebound to draw seven cards deep to find Approach.
Reconnaissance is good as a repeatable way to remove Taigam from combat. After he attacks getting the rebound trigger for your spells you can take him out of combat, protecting him. This is helpful because Taigam doesn't have evasion and he has to attack to get the rebound trigger for your spells. Mother of Runes and Giver of Runes are repeatable protection and can give Taigam evasion by giving him protection from a color of a creature who's blocking him in combat. These cards can also protect Monastery Mentor who is by far the best prowess creature. Consider cutting several of the lackluster prowess creatures for more two drop mana rocks and draw spells? Getting Taigam onto the battlefield faster with ramp does much more with instant and sorceries.
Cards to consider adding:
- Mother of Runes
- Giver of Runes
- Reliquary Tower : no max hand size is helpful when drawing cards.
- Adarkar Wastes
- Prairie Stream
- City of Brass
- Talisman of Progress
- Baral, Chief of Compliance
- Knight of the White Orchid : land ramp, can search for Fountain, Farmland, Stream or Plains and put one of them onto the battlefield.
- Mystical Tutor
- Mind Stone
- Mystic Remora : one of the best budget sources of repeatable draw in multiplayer Commander.
- Dig Through Time : excellent delve card in Commander, amazing with rebound.
- Preordain or Serum Visions
- Frantic Search
- Impulse or Fact or Fiction
- Aven Mindcensor : disrupt your opponents tutors making them less effective includes Fetch lands.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Cloudcrest Lake
- Azorius Guildgate
- Tranquil Cove
- Jeskai Elder
- Jeskai Sage
- Reliquary Monk
- Serene Master
- Stratus Dancer
- Student of Ojutai
- Wandering Champion
- Elusive Spellfist
- Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker
- Ojutai Exemplars
- Zephyr Scribe
- Enlightened Ascetic
- Forbidding Spirit
- Kami of False Hope
4 weeks ago
The easiest way to speed up a deck is by removing ETB tapped lands. I highly suggest running Command Tower , as well as City of Brass and Mana Confluence . If you have access to it, Cavern of Souls is a good option for any tribal deck, but Unclaimed Territory is another good option. Forbidden Orchard , Exotic Orchard and Reflecting Pool are more interesting lands to consider.
Green dorks and two-mana rocks are also very good. I see you're running Birds of Paradise , but Elves of Deep Shadow , Llanowar Elves , Rampant Growth , Fyndhorn Elves , Orcish Lumberjack and (if you can) Noble Hierarch are also great additions. If you want to invest relatively heavily into your dork-base, Bloom Tender is REALLY good in chromatic decks. If you find yourself facing a lot of blue decks, Carpet of Flowers is a good idea, too; Joiner Adept acts as a second Chromatic Lantern .
Fellwar Stone is good. The talisman cycles ( Talisman of Dominance , Talisman of Indulgence , Talisman of Impulse , Talisman of Unity , Talisman of Progress and the new five from Modern Horizons) are all good; I suggest that most, if not all, of your mana rocks should be two or less mana. Using a land like Ancient Tomb also helps cast these turn one. Signets like Dimir Signet or Boros Signet are good too, although I think most of the time the talismans will be better. Gilded Lotus is a good exception to my CMC rule in a deck with as many fat creatures as yours.
I don't think Nissa's Renewal is very good; generally, ramp is good in the early game, but not so good by the time you reach six mana. Nature's Lore , Rampant Growth , Farseek , Cultivate and/or Kodama's Reach are all powerful ramp spells you can fire off early. I think the first three are better, if only because they can fetch non-basics like Breeding Pool or Godless Shrine . I'm not as much a fan of the other two, but experience will show if they're worth including. Finally, I think Skyshroud Claim is better than Explosive Vegetation .
If at all possible, tutors are good. Demonic Tutor is the gold standard here, but Diabolic Tutor is a good, more affordable alternative. Vampiric Tutor , Worldly Tutor , Sylvan Tutor , Dark Petition and Gamble are all good cards as well, though their affordability varies tremendously.
Red comes with good counter counter magic options. Price of Glory is a good card if you want to discourage opponents playing on your turn, and Pyroblast is a good way to stop Counterspell and friends. Cards like Pyrostatic Pillar can punish decks with lower curves.
Card draw is at a premium in EDH. Staff of Nin is easy on the colored mana and gives you an extra draw each turn, and Phyrexian Arena is another good option. Harmonize , Concentrate and Painful Truths are good draw-threes.
Because your deck is running a LOT of fatties (and the best fatties, at that, 'cause they're dragons), you may find cards like Lurking Predators is be pretty good; Descendants' Path is a similar card. Depending on how fatty-heavy your meta is, Eureka effects like Show and Tell may be good. Sneak Attack is good if you want to use one-time face-smacks like Nicol Bolas or your already included Oros, the Avenger .
If you DON'T want to run dorks, and opt for artifact ramp instead, depending on your meta you may have a good time with cards like Porphyry Nodes or Night of Souls' Betrayal . Effects like Pyroclasm and Volcanic Fallout can also wipe out opponent's boards if they choose to go wide.
I think EDH decks tend to need a lot of mass removal. By Force is a favorite of mine, and Toxic Deluge , Wrath of God , Ritual of Soot and Supreme Verdict are all great if you have access to them. Back to Nature is good if you choose to cut down on the number of enchantments you're running, but Nature's Claim or Krosan Grip are also pretty good options.
If your curve is really high, things like Timesifter can be pretty brutal.
I'm not super sure Niv-Mizzet Reborn is very good. I don't know if you'll be getting very much card advantage, because you have a lot of cards that are more or less than exactly two colors. I think a card-draw spell like the ones I mentioned above would be better, like Treasure Cruise or Dig Through Time .
Good luck with deck building my man!
4 weeks ago
marn3us: I do think you're right; while Combustible Gearhulk was a powerful card in standard, I don't think it's good in the EDH arena. For card draw, Treasure Cruise or Dig Through Time are typically good starting points, though neither is particularly repeatable and you probably don't want to run them together, as delve can become hard to use. I think most card-draw engines don't have much of a second upside, simply because the upside of drawing cards is so good. Phyrexian Arena is a favorite of mine, though it is around $10 now. Jace Beleren is OK, especially if you can pair his +1 with a Notion Thief . You might also consider running Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas or Tezzeret, Artifice Master , though together the two would run you about $25. Staff of Nin is a permanent card for card advantage, as are Howling Mine and Dictate of Kruphix , if you don't mind helping your opponents too. I briefly looked over my first comment, but I don't think I mentioned the cantrips in it; I apologize. Ponder , Preordain and Brainstorm are all great first plays, with brainstorm becoming better with more shuffle effects (like the slow fetches). Twilight Prophet is another favorite card-draw engine of mine.
I see your reason for running the artifact lands better now. You should consider Lotus Bloom for fetching with Tezzeret, as that's an easy +3 mana, and I think Swords to Plowshares is better than Dispatch . However, the other synergies may justify leaving in the lands... practice should help there.
I also want to draw your attention to some new spoilers that just came out today. I can't believe it, but I failed to mention the original 'talisman cycle' to you before now: Talisman of Progress , Talisman of Dominance and Talisman of Indulgence would all fit well in your deck. Today, it was announced that there will be enemy talismans in Modern Horizons. I intend to pick up a Talisman of Creativity, but you should consider running the talismans of Conviction and Hierarchy as well. These will make excellent 2-mana accelerants, and should end up only being $1-$2 a piece.
As always, good luck!
1 month ago
The first thing I notice when looking at this list is that you run 41 lands. I strongly advise against this. In my experience, unless you’re a green landfall deck like Azusa, Lost but Seeking , there is little utility in running more than 34, maybe 35 lands. There are budget options for fetching, such as Evolving Wilds or Terramorphic Expanse , which you might find helpful for color fixing. Also, you might consider running the shock lands in your colors ( Hallowed Fountain , etc.). These can be grabbed by slow fetches like Flood Plain , and add a level of consistency to your mana base without breaking the bank. Hall of the Bandit Lord is also a consideration, though it can be pricey. Temple of Epiphany , Temple of Enlightenment and Temple of Triumph may be helpful to find more/fewer lands early, before Narset is down, and remove ‘dud’ lands from the top of your deck after she is ready to attack. Command Tower , Mana Confluence and City of Brass are also good additions.
My second piece of advice is to add top deck manipulation. While many of these kind of cards are expensive, like Jace, the Mind Sculptor , Scroll Rack and Sensei's Divining Top , card’s like Ponder , Brainstorm and Preordain are very affordable. I especially advise the first two, as they permit stacking up to two spells on top of your deck before attacking with Narset, where Preordain only stacks one. However, all three are great in an opening hand looking for lands or action cards, and I would run all three in virtually all blue decks. Telling Time and Serum Visions are also contenders for this slot, though I don’t think as highly of them.
Mystical Tutor , Enlightened Tutor and Personal Tutor are also great ways to stack cards you need on top of your deck before a Narset trigger resolves. These are in the $20-$30 range though, so they may not be super accessible.
Strionic Resonator copies your generals ability... just sayin’.
If you don’t want to run counter magic, you should at least consider counter counter magic measures like Defense Grid or Price of Glory . These will make it way more difficult for your opponent to counter your general on her way down, or your free spells during the resolution of her trigger. Silence is also a good card from that view. Some interaction is always good, though. Here, I recommend Wrath of God , Supreme Verdict and/or Swords to Plowshares . The first two are board wipes that will hold back wide decks and give you time to cast your general; Swords is just the best spot removal in the game. Wear / Tear is another great piece of interaction in RUW.
With respect to your ramp: I see you’re running all three cluestones. I think the signets ( Azorius Signet , Boros Signet and Izzet Signet ) are better. In my experience there is a tremendous difference between 2- and 3-mana rocks in EDH. Similarly, I advise Talisman of Progress , Mind Stone , and Thought Vessel as ramp options. Coldsteel Heart is also a good idea.
Depending on your board presence during each game, you might consider Restore Balance , as a Narset trigger allows you to cast it immediately. This may be helpful if you can’t go off that turn, and just want to keep opposing boards in check.
Card draw and selection is a premium in EDH and decides most games. Chart a Course , Faithless Looting and Dack Fayden all come to mind when viewing your list. Ancestral Vision is about $10 these days, and is a fun flip off a Narset trigger, though Concentrate may be just straight better, as you can cast it from your hand as well. Mystic Remora is a good enchantment for drawing cards. If you choose to run a counter counter magic package, Dictate of Kruphix or Howling Mine may help; however, be weary of playing them when you have no counter protection, as they are symmetrical effects.
Finally, depending on how mean you are, Ravages of War , Armageddon and Cataclysm are possibilities. Nuke-ing all the lands means that Narset is very likely to take over the game, and resolving one of these spells may win the game on its own. Cataclysm is, in my experience, even more brutal than the other two, as it kills walkers and removes armies of blockers.
I hope you find this helpful; let me know if you need clarification on any of my comments.
Good luck with deck building!
1 month ago
Thanks, . I will include Talisman of Progress for sure. I am a little hesitant with Pentad Prism though. I see that it is run in many lists. In your experience, is it efficient and typically consistent? It can only have a max of 2 counters, correct, then it is just a dud?
Talisman of Progress occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%
WU (Azorius): 1.62%
WUB (Esper): 0.86%