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Talisman of Progress
Tap: Add (1) to your mana pool.
Tap: Add (White) or (Blue) to your mana pool. Talisman of Progress deals 1 damage to you.
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Talisman of Progress Discussion
2 days ago
You might want to fit in some more mana rocks/dorks to better support the paradox engine (and brago with the rocks). Derevi is very good with some of the bigger mana rocks that don't untap, such as Basalt Monolith, Mana Vault, and Grim Monolith. In addition, Fellwar Stone, Talisman of Progress, and Talisman of Unity are some great 2-mana rocks. Noble Hierarch and Birds of Paradise are some strong mana dorks. Some other strong mana dorks include Somberwald Sage and Shaman of Forgotten Ways.
Some creatures that generate tokens on etb might be nice to synergize with Derevi and the flicker theme. Avenger of Zendikar is one of the best, and Geist-Honored Monk, Captain of the Watch, and Hornet Queen are some other strong options. There are some other good options that also have other nice effects. Knight-Captain of Eos can fog for a turn by sacrificing one of his tokens, while Whirler Rogue can make a creature unblockable by tapping down his spawn.
Your tap/untap shenanigan package is on the weaker side at the moment, but there are some nice options for you to consider. Nullmage Shepherd lets you tap your stuff to blow up artifacts/enchantments while synergizing nicely with tokens, and Adarkar Valkyrie protects your stuff and steal your opponent's. Reconnaissance is a great inclusion in any Derevi deck for giving your team pseudo-vigilance, but can also let you use an attacking creature's tap ability infinitely as long as its free. You can use this to generate infinite mana in the combat step with a mana dork, draw your deck with Arcanis, or activate Adarkar Valkyrie on every creature before wiping the board.
5 days ago
Thanks for the suggestions!
The deck is about taxing the opponents with cards like Ghostly Prison and Aven Mindcensor as an example, then winning by combo/beating the enemy to death with the big creatures or bore them to death. I run a lot of tax/prison effects so I would call it a stax deck.
Clever Impersonator was originally a stand in for Phyrexian Methamorph, but it worked so well that I did not prioritize swapping them. Will defiantly change them in the future!
Terminus is on its way as I speak, Also I have a Austere Command in there. Its too good to leave out.
Mystical Tudor is also on its way.
I feel like Idyllic Tudor is a little too slow, that's why I have included it yet. Might proxy it for playtesting tho.
Academy Rector is also in its way.
I have used Future Sight in the past, but I feel like it did not work out well enough in this deck, too slow.
I have never really had any problems with hitting all my land drops, but I'm including Talisman of Progress just to be sure.
Thanks for the help !
4 weeks ago
It would seem great minds think alike! Nice deck name you have there. ;D
Commander / EDH
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For real, I do have quite a few things I'd like to suggest quite a few things that should hopefully help you out!
The first item I'd like to point out are a handful of outclassed cards. Sylvan Reclamation in GW is for all intents and purposes strictly better than Relic Crush. Subbing one generic mana for one white mana for both exile AND the option to cycle? Count me in! Dreamstone Hedron does provide two colorless mana, but I feel Mind Stone being potentially dropped earlier makes that a more worthwhile option to me. Grappling Hook is nice when you can force your opponent to block how you like, but if you're going for the double strike option I believe there are better options that can come out earlier and work better to your advantage. Fireshrieker is a cheaper double strike equipment, and Duelist's Heritage can boost your opponents' creatures on turns where they are not so inclined to be attacking you to make your opponents finish each other off more quickly!
One thing worth pointing out is that Mirri isn't dependent on cats. While there are plenty of cats and cat-based cards that work well with Mirri, don't be afraid to tip your toes outside of the tribal focus a little bit here. Oketra's Monument is a good example of a card that can boost your strategies with non-Cat creatures. Other cards that work well would be Martial Coup, Secure the Wastes, and Elspeth, Sun's Champion. While a little costly on the mana side of things, Hornet Queen provides great flying defense that this deck typically lacks. These token producers would also allow you to take greater advantage of Skullclamp (or Mentor of the Meek if you choose to add it as well) for some nice card draw.
While Hornet Queen is fresh on the mind, I'd like to point out Sandwurm Convergence as another great defense against flying decks.
Tribal vs non-tribal aside, let's talk about how to tap Mirri outside of combat. You'll want to get her tapped every turn you have her out, but sometimes swinging away just isn't a viable option. Cards like Cryptolith Rite and Glare of Subdual allow you to get plenty of non-combat utility out of Mirri as you enable her. Don't forget lands that tap your creatures, including Survivors' Encampment. Cards with Convoke can also be beneficial, especially with all the token generators you have. Chord of Calling and Obelisk of Urd are probably the two best for your deck.
Fun fact, if you're looking for a cheap and on-theme infinite combo. Combine Cryptolith Rite, Oketra's Monument, Whitemane Lion, and Leonin Battlemage for an infinite number of tokens and an infinitely large creature!
In regards to your manabase, I have two concerns: I believe there are too many ETB tapped lands, and you don't have enough ramp.
For the ramp side, you should look to squeeze in Selesnya Signet and Talisman of Unity - they are great to drop early, and allow you to drop Mirri as early as turn 2! Getting some redundancy in your deck with Kodama's Reach wouldn't be too remiss of you either... wouldn't you want to double your chances of drawing into Cultivate early?
For the lands, the only ones you're running that enter tapped that I'm a fan of are Path of Ancestry and Selesnya Sanctuary. While the other provide solid fixing, being set back a turn on mana when you should be aiming to generate as much as possible to get your token production up can really slow you down. More basics, and cheap duals like Sunpetal Grove, Fortified Village, Canopy Vista, and Temple of Plenty that either enter untapped under the right conditions, or at least provide some extra utility, I believe would be preferential. To put it in perspective, would you rather gain 1 life, or scry 1? Would you rather have a guildgate, or Scattered Groves that does the same thing, but can be cycled AND more easily fetched?
In addition to that fixing, more utility lands would also be worthwhile for you. Hashep Oasis and more relevantly Shefet Dunes provide mana for you while also giving you the option of pumping your creatures. I personally run other cards in my own Arahbo deck like Homeward Path and Scavenger Grounds as well, but you could tailor those to your personal meta.
I'd also like to discuss putting some redundancy in your deck.
When it comes to your commander, Mirri is nice since she locks down combat, but there are other options here that can perform similar roles! Crawlspace provides a similar protection effect, although it allows two creatures attacking and not one. Citadel Siege allows you tap one of your opponents' creatures each turn, so they can only ever attack you with their second best option! On the offensive side, Krosan Vorine is another cat(!!!) that with provoke forces your opponent into bad blocks. Likewise, Odric, Master Tactician provides similar combat control.
I notice you have a pretty heavy equipment focus, but with the amount of token generation that Mirri benefits from, more anthem-esque effects like Mirari's Wake and Marshal's Anthem would be appreciated. Two that I can think of off the bat would be Spear of Heliod and Bow of Nylea. Both provide excellent utility outside of their offensive boosts. If you have Mirri and the Spear out, 3 open mana means your opponent KNOWS that their creature can die that turn. Likewise, the Bow makes blocks even tougher even WITHOUT Mirri, not to mention it's such a Swiss Army Knife otherwise!
The last thing I'd like to cover are you win conditions. Going wide with your tokens is critical to your strategy, so let's find a way to take maximum advantage of that. Throne of the God-Pharaoh and Jazal Goldmane stand out to me as some of your best finishers, but we can add more. If you have the budget for it, Craterhoof Behemoth is one of the best token finishers out there, but if you're looking for a cheaper option (albeit slightly weaker), Decimator of the Provinces provides a similar Overrun effect on a body. I'm a big fan of infect, so Triumph of the Hordes is something I would include in my own Mirri deck, as it's such an efficient blowout card. I can understand if you're not keen on infect, though. Finally, True Conviction can quickly turn games around when you'd otherwise be down and out thanks to the massive lifegain it provides, not to mention board-wide double strike often being enough to end games.
I know I went on and on here, but I do help this was of help to you! Please, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
2 months ago
Ok so I have a lot of suggestions that would make this deck more competitive because its pretty far off at the moment. I'll go by each section.
First artifacts, you should take out everything you have except for Sol Ring and Sensei's Divining Top. Yes even Chromatic Lantern, especially Chromatic Lantern. Spending 3 mana on a rock that only produces 1 mana is too much of a tempo loss in a competitive game and its effect is unnecessary which I will explain when I talk about lands. Instead add some fast mana acceleration. Cards like Mox Opal, Mox Diamond, Chrome Mox, Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Grim Monolith, Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Progress, Dimir Signet, Azorius Signet, and Orzhov Signet. You should strive to run as much of that ramp package as you can afford.
Second lands, with a solid land base you should have no need for a card like Chromatic Lantern even in Sen Triplets. Lands like Forbidden Orchard, Exotic Orchard, Mana Confluence, City of Brass, Reflecting Pool, Gemstone Caverns, Gemstone Mine and Command Tower along with Mox Diamond and Mox Opal should be able to provide all the green or red mana you should ever need in a game. You also are running far far too mana lands. With a decent ramp package running anywhere from 29-34 lands should be more than enough.
Third instants, you are running a lot of control style interaction with counterspells and one-off removal which is sort of fine but a lot of it is simply not viable in a competitive setting. Cryptic Command is super versitile but 4 mana as a response is brutal. Needing to leave up 4 mana for an answer will cause you to not be able to play anything in the early game. There are plenty of 1 and 2 mana counterspells that you should run instead. Disallow and Render Silent have the same problem, its just too expensive on turn 2 or 3 when you are trying to play a signet or talisman to ramp you should be able to have mana for an answer as well. Pull from Tomorrow and Flash seem like super weird choices and IDK why you are running Orim's Chant and not Silence.
Fourth sorceries, the only thing here that i notice is that the triple white kind of makes it unplayable most of the time even when you do have the condition met. With all the other creature wipes I would cut it. Also no Toxic Deluge? Unburial Rites is also way expensive when you have reanimation effects like Exhume, Dance of the Dead, and Necromancy.
Fifth creatures, no this one is messy. you have WAY too many reanimation targets, you need to cut some fatties. In competitive re-animator you only need like 1-3 fatties because they should be so powerful that once they are reanimated they just win you the game essentially. You do not want to have one in your hand ever in an ideal world so you really want to limit the number of reanimation targets in the deck. The only ones i see that are worth running are Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur and Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite. You could add an eldrazi titan if you wanted as well. The others are simply weak in comparison.
Those are my thoughts on the cards you are currently running. Now for the second awkward part of this deck. The majority of your card advantage I notice is over time. You have a lot of engines like Phyrexian Arena and Rhystic Study and not many 1 off draw spells like Night's Whisper. That is fine in a stacks strategy when you can slow the game down enough to get the value form them but you arn't really running any stacks effects. This deck should probably run cards like Aven Mindcensor, Sphere of Resistance, Torpor Orb, Cursed Totem, Pithing Needle, Aura of Silence, Seal of Cleansing, Nihil Spellbomb, Tormod's Crypt, Phyrexian Revoker, Blind Obedience. The problem is there arn't that many hard stacks cards that don't hurt your gameplan as much as everyone else. The deck needs a lot of cleaning up and some cohesiveness in its strategy to be considered competitive.
2 months ago
Hey, fr competitives spiel bist du vieEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeEEEeeeel zu langsamn.Folgende karten mssen verschwinden..Aqueous Form, Brave the Sands, Counterbalance, Damping Field, Triclopean Sight, Grim Guardian, Underworld Coinsmith, eine von beiden reicht.. du durchsuchst eh deine bib.Rule of Law or Arcane Laboratory, bei der bin ich mir nicht so sicher.Rising Waters?
Folgende Karten sind no brainer.. die musst du einfach spielen :)Dimir Signet, Azorius Signet, Sol Ring, Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Progress, Swiftfoot Boots, Lightning Greaves, Arcane Denial, Counterspell, Swan Song,
damit dein Deck wirklich gut funktioniert reichts immer noch nicht.. aber so knnte es mal gefhrlich werden am Tisch :)
Hoffe ich konnte etwas helfen, meld dich einfach wenn du noch was wissen mchtest.
2 months ago
Hi, seems you got some great tips already. When reading through all the comments I got pretty confident that most things have been said. Still I will advocate the use of more ramp. Cards like Chrome Mox, Fellwar Stone, Mox Diamond, Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Progress and Talisman of Unity should find a place here.
2 months ago
Alright, we can work with that. However, looking through the list, you'll need a lot of changes.
Let's start with the mana base.
I find most of your land choices questionable at best. I like that you started on a few of your shocks, so you're heading in the right direction there. The only other lands you're running I'd keep are Mana Confluence, Command Tower, City of Brass, and the 1x of each basic. You'll want to add the original duals (Tundra, Underground Sea, Tropical Island, Scrubland, Savannah, and Bayou) and all 10 fetchlands. This will bring us to 29 lands, leaving up to 3 slots for meta decision utility lands. I wouldn't go above 32 total, though. I also personally use Maze of Ith in every deck, but that's preference. I won't be counting those three slots in my running card total.
Next is your ramp. I like that you have Sol Ring and Birds of Paradise, but we can do more. You already have Simic Signet, but I suggest getting all the others, especially the blue ones (Dimir Signet, Azorius Signet, Golgari Signet, Orzhov Signet, Selesnya Signet). We can also run Mana Crypt, Mox Opal, Mox Diamond, Chrome Mox, Mana Vault, Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Progress, and Talisman of Unity. Then, we start looking at fleshing out your mana dorks. Deathrite Shaman, Llanowar Elves, Fyndhorn Elves, Arbor Elf, Elvish Mystic, and Elves of Deep Shadow should all go in. Finally, Carpet of Flowers to get ahead of other blue players.
On to the tutors.
For card advantage:
Current card count: 69.
This is where it gets interesting. I like Cyclonic Rift, Swords to Plowshares, and Winter Orb, but, as before, we can add to those. Abrupt Decay, Mana Drain, Force of Will, Flusterstorm, Counterspell, Mental Misstep, Silence, Negate, Dispel, and Angel's Grace can all find a home here. We can also run Smokestack, tanglewire, Nether Void, The Abyss, Arcane Laboratory, and Notion Thief.
Card total: 87.
I don't see any in your list, so this is a new category. We'll start with the basics. Brainstorm, Ponder, Preordain, and Gitaxian Probe. With the best wincons I can prescribe, you'll also want Gush and Night's Whisper.
Card total: 93
Card total: 96.
Or we can not call it competitive. Usually a cheaper option.
2 months ago
Looks like a decent start! If you're going full blown lifegain, I'd say you're missing a few things. Aetherflux Reservoir is a staple for Oloro, and should be here. Karlov of the Ghost Council is a great source of removal and should also probably be here, as with Ivory Tower. I'd also recommend a bit more ramp, like Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Progress, and Mind Stone. Maybe Chromatic Lantern. Beacon of Immortality, too, perhaps? I'm not really sure where you're going besides lifegain, but I'd suggest Propaganda, Ghostly Prison, and Sphere of Safety. I'll leave a link to my own Oloro for reference, if you want to check it out. Good luck with this! I'll be glad to help out if you need more advice!