Meekstone

Artifact

Creatures with power 3 or greater don't untap during their controllers' untap steps.

Combos

• Authority of the Consuls + Meekstone

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Oldschool 93/94	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Premodern	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (49)

Icbrgr on Mono-Red Burn

1 month ago

Something that was suggested to me was Meekstone I personally have yet to playtest it but it sounds like a budget friendly Ensnaring Bridge. +1 and cheers fellow burn player!

Icbrgr on

1 month ago

Great advice all around DreadKhan!

Meekstone seems like a great tech card I like it!... I also love Ball Lightning too and think I would gladly reduce my Thunderous Wrath count for some... I'm definitely gonna up my Fireblast count too... I was just nervous about playing it alongside Shard Volley but maybe it will work out... I'll make some adjustments thank you!

DreadKhan on

1 month ago

Have you ever thought about using one or two Ball Lightning over Thunderous Wrath? 3 mana is pretty doable with 20 lands (most of the cards you'll play in a Burn game were in your opening hand in my experience), and 6 > 5 in terms of card quality, with both usually being castable when you topdeck them late.

This is probably more of a personal preference, but I worry a lot more about facing off with Monastery Swiftspear than Goblin Guide, getting the odd free card can make a big difference in Legacy, even if it's only a land it's one less dead card I have to draw, which means you're putting gas in your opponent's tank IMHO. Swiftspear has a higher ceiling too with all of your spells, it's especially nice with your Fireblasts and Thunderous Wraths.

I second Balaam__, Fireblast is really good in Burn, I could see running 3 if you worry about drawing too many, but I win a lot of close games off of Fireblast, it's fairly hard for Burn to pull off a turn 3 win without using it.

For sideboard, have you thought about Meekstone? You don't run any creatures with power > 2, so it has no risks for you and can slow down aggro, and it can be played turn 1 even if they don't have a body, making it potentially better than Flame Slash in some situations.

Burn is a great archetype if you want to have one Legacy deck and Legacy isn't your forte, there is a fair bit of freedom compared to other archetypes, with lots of cards you can build around.

Basshunter on Hound of Konda

1 month ago

Hi how about Meekstone? It fits perfectly in your deck. Take Spear of Heliod out?

DreadKhan on Need help ruining a combo players day

2 months ago

Thorn of Amethyst, Glowrider, Sphere of Resistance, Vryn Wingmare, and Eidolon of Rhetoric all exist, but I'm guessing they didn't make the cut?

Retribution of the Meek might be a reasonable wipe with so many smaller creatures, ditto Elspeth, Sun's Champion. If a wipe is one sided it's not just resetting the board, not sure how many of these you're willing to run. Elspeth makes a small army, much better at blocking than the Samurai from Wanderer fwiw, but Wanderer is really strong too. Smothering Tithe is great with Stasis out, Brago, King Eternal might be fun too. If people are running obnoxious stuff, you could run Enlightened Tutor to find your Stasis/Tithe cards as needed, Muddle the Mixture can find both Stasis or Brave the Sands, while also being a counterspell. If you like Stasis, you could also try Static Orb, Meekstone, Crackdown or even Winter Orb/Rising Waters, not sure how hostile you want to be but Stasis is harsher than these. How often do you cast Approach of the Second Sun in here? I ask because there are a lot of tax effects, but if it's not trouble have you thought about running some tutors to find it? The best ones I can think of are Mystical Tutor, Personal Tutor, and Solve the Equation, they can also find other cards as needed, handy if you need removal, a wipe or a counter.

As for alternatives that can do similar things, you might look at either Zur the Enchanter or Hinata, Dawn-Crowned as alternatives that offer more offensive punch while still offering a solid route to shutting the table down. Zur can dig out enchantments like Rule of Law, Stasis (and Black Market Connections) and various ways to fairly quickly win the game, all while being able to hold up lots of mana for interaction, be it counters or removal. Hinata is another tax effect, but you get access to Red as well, and Red has some interesting additions to the Stax department, you'd definitely want Grand Arbiter in your Hinata deck, and you'd run most of the same cards, but you also have the option of running a bunch of cards that care about Hinata's discount, Hinata makes interaction better, especially if it has multiple targets, the annoying thing for both is that they're much harder to cast than Grand Arbiter, so you'd have to raise your budget to have the same consistency. The big problem with Zur is protecting him. If there are literally specific players you know are a problem you can run either Baral, Chief of Compliance or Talrand, Sky Summoner, Baral is better at playing 'Counter Everything' but Talrand can be just offensively good vs a specific player since he also is generating evasive bodies while interacting with that player's win attempts. The nice thing about he mono-Blue approach is you can just brutalize a player or two while letting the others play a smaller (but more normal) game.

Oh, if those players run specific colours (and nobody else likes them as much) there are old school colour hosers, cards like Karma can make life extremely hard. They exist for all colours, and they were so staggeringly unpopular that the developer stopped printing cards like it.

DreadKhan on Dude, We're Getting the Band Back Together

2 months ago

Not sure if it's too weak, but when I was playing with only older cards I was surprisingly happy with what Orim, Samite Healer could do, preventing 3 damage can be enough to make combat way more complicated for your opponents. If you have creatures with First Strike and Banding somewhat often, you might like cards that do the opposite of Orim, the clunkiest I can think of is Elite Archers, if you have this out and some Banding First Strike creatures it might make combat scary enough to matter. White used to get a fair number of creatures like this. Sorry if this kind of stuff isn't up to your deck's standards!

I've always loved a good 'tap to really annoy your opponent' type cards, some of my general purpose favorites are Spurnmage Advocate, Pulsemage Advocate, Intrepid Hero, Devout Witness, and the huge pie break Preacher. I think WotC stopped making cards like this because they're incredibly annoying to play against rather than them being functionally bad, but it is true that they come out and do nothing for a cycle. Sorry they don't have Banding, but they can help you win more games.

Again, not sure if it's too weak, but I've rarely been disappointed by Noble Purpose, it even stacks with Lifelink sources if you've got any. Spare life turns slugfest type games that old cards often produce into gradual advantage for you.

Since you have some Vigilance sources, maybe Righteous Fury would do some work? Even weirder, what about a Meekstone? Most of your bodies are small, it's a lot like another Crackdown.

I feel like if you're going to run Glorious Anthem you might consider Soltari Champion, the other White Shadow I often sneak into decks is Soltari Visionary. They both do something quite useful, but Visionary is a bit more meta dependent, some groups avoid Enchantments. Technically Soltari Champion works better with a Meekstone than a normal Anthem will.

DreadKhan on Brian Stacks' Pyromancy (E)

2 months ago

You don't have a sideboard, but if you ever think about it I bet Meekstone would be handy as backup copies of Smoke vs fast aggro decks. Technically they 'stack', if you have both they can only untap 1 creature that satisfies Meekstone.

Also, I absolutely love creature lands/artifacts that become creatures, some even do double duty as a mana rock. If you added Black you could try something like Phyrexian Totem or Rakdos Keyrune, but mono-Red does have Foriysian Totem, 1 or 2 copies of this might be a nice way to close out games, it's especially useful if your opponent can't safely play blockers, or if they've snuck out a few weenies early since the Totem makes a great blocker. There is also Guardian Idol, which might be more useful than Mind Stone vs some decks, maybe Haunted Plate Mail or Levitating Statue could do work, Xanthic Statue is only 5 for an 8/8 Trample. For Man-lands there flashy Den of the Bugbear, each time you pay it's 3R you get to make another 1/1 fwiw. If people play lots of weenies then Ghitu Encampment is very good at dealing with them with it's First Strike. These cards that become lands might be even better in a sideboard as well, where you play game 1 with zero creature presence and once you're sure people have pulled all their creature hate you can sneak some situational creatures in.

Interesting solution to the 'how do I kill my opponent?' question, creatureless decks are always cool!

Ender666666 on Guess Who's Back, Back Again, And Again

3 months ago

Ok hear me out, but what about Meekstone? You Sac your attackers to untap them and bring them back, but opponents are hindered by it