Meekstone

Artifact

Creatures with power 3 or greater don't untap during their controllers' untap steps.

Discussion (51)

Fredrick0927 on Choose Your Own Adventure!

2 weeks ago

I appreciate the feedback! I don't really want the Hellrider because it doesn't really provide my opponent with a choice. In addition, I find myself not being super aggressive with attacking either, and some times I can't at all if I have Ensnaring Bridge or Meekstone out. I was thinking of an Erebos or Tainted Remedy but I'm not sure if I want something that stops me from gaining life. Exquisite Blood and the altar help keep me alive to torture a little longer. I also just discovered Demanding Dragon so I'm going to have to figure out what to switch out for it.

I always appreciate feedback and suggestions, especially since there isn't a keyword or string of words that I can search to find more choice cards.

BMHKain on Sparky-chan's Undiluted Hatred to WotC

3 weeks ago

@king-saproling: (I apologize for mentioning you again; you okay there?)

OK. The Amount in question to cut has increased to 12 -> 15. But the stakes for cutting that much to 99 + 1 has never been more complicated. There are also some Key pieces I DON'T wish to call them quits for surprisingly decent Reasons. Here they are w/ Explanation & the like:

Meekstone: Uh, Oko, Thief of Crowns? YA RLY. Oko isn't just a Great Cook, he can turn an opponent's Creatures & Artifice to 3/3 Ability-less Elks. Tap them all, & your opponent's better have an option ready. But if you say Humility needs to be cut, do you think this combo can make for a better alt?

Teferi, Time Raveler: Uh, why? This card has High Synergy Value not just from Bouncing Stuff, but in particular: Wishclaw Talisman. These two are one of the best Combos for Superfriends. Just Tutor with the Claws...

Master Tang: THEY HURT LIKE CRAP, MAN! (No joke; he literally said that.)

...Bounce it before ANY opponent can nab it from you, & you got Synergetic Tutoring. The scariest part is that this Combo was very powerful while Teferi was around in Standard. YES. This was a legitimate Combo in Standard. Which also meant ARENA players had to deal with this Hell Clock. Ol' Master Tang himself wasn't kidding about his comment on Iron Claws.

(Reference of Note: Master Tang from Kung-Pow: Enter the Fist)

Ral Zarek: ... Err... Why no to him? He's got ALOT going here. He can Tap an Opponents Perms or Untap them, & yours too if you choose & Weiß Versa (There's a Bad Pun there). This can be set to Tap Artifacts & Creatures for stuff like Nahiri, the Harbinger to EXILE. These Perms don't even include the "Nonland" Restriction, so if an opponent has a response, you can Tap that land to restrict Mana Pool Levels. This also goes for their Rocks/Boulders to restrict their mana further. But in any way possible, as long as it is Not an Instant or Sorcery, IT'S A TARGET BEGGING TO BE WASTED OR EVEN REUSED. So much versatility, & the Scariest part? This ability increase Ral's Loyalty by +1. Not even 0 or even -1; this Loyalty Ability is not only potent, but it increases Loyalty. Though I will agree that -2 is lackluster in practice, though God help us all if Ral's -7 is altered in a way that the Amount of Heads in such a Game of Chance is blown to more than 5 shots for an Extra Turn each... XP Trust me, he's amazing.

I'd love to mention more, but these are my top contenders for what should stay (Unless Lethal Vapors can be used w/o something like Pithing Needle or even A creature like this...)

That said, What would your Final 15 cuts be in your case? I'd keep what I said (& Lethal Vapors if I had a noncreature Perm that is a Multi-Targeting Pithing Needle) for the reasons just said, & they sound like fine points to me. I'll try all I can otherwise, but for now, What would be your 15 cards to cut here?

(Can't believe I cut Tezzeret, Artifice Master; maybe something can be cut for him back in... Still owe you big time.)

BMHKain on Sparky-chan's Undiluted Hatred to WotC

3 weeks ago

@king-saproling: Okay. Here's the situation thus far. I only need 7 Cards to be cut for the Magic Numeric that is 99 + 1. However, the Cards Below are some important pieces that can do a lot more than you think:

Fellwar Stone

Grafdigger's Cage

Humility

Karmic Justice

Lethal Vapors

Meekstone

Privileged Position

Sorin Markov

Tainted AEther

Teferi, Time Raveler

Thran Temporal Gateway

Wishclaw Talisman

Ral Zarek

Before going over the list of Insane Mentality, I've some Questions needing Answers:

1. While it goes w/o Question that Oko, Thief of Crowns is busted as hell, does his being in this deck really make Humility obsolete? If not, why cut the latter?

2. After some thought, I wanted to put back in the Stax/Pillowfort cards in question. Which ones?

3. Here are some Combos that might question several Status Quos, but are awesome IMO:

Teferi, Time Raveler + Wishclaw Talisman : Infinite Tutors w/o ever giving your opponent the Claws is very good in the Synergy Field.

Lethal Vapors + Tainted AEther : Instant Lock; but I ponder about if it is worth putting in; looks epic though...

Aminatou, the Fateshifter + Doubling Season + Ral Zarek (& other Ral Zarek Combos.): There is a good reason ol' Ral is a key player here; he can Tap, & Untap any Permanent in the same Loyalty Ability; which really helps Nahiri, the Harbinger when needing to Exile whatever in a pinch. Also, His Ultimate will not only Flip for some Heads, but also increase Aminatou's -1 Stock in some way or another. Even w/o Cloudstone Curio to bounce either Walker, you might have a good chance of winning w/o Expropriate level Game Enders.

Any of them good? There are others, but I just wanted some thought from you. Would you want to put any of this back in? I understand some are either Meh, Mana Cost Hungry, or just too expensive to cast, but w/ 7 cards left to chop, & the above including some great ideas to add upon:

Fellwar Stone

Grafdigger's Cage

Humility

Karmic Justice

Lethal Vapors

Meekstone

Privileged Position (?)

Sorin Markov (?)

Tainted AEther

Teferi, Time Raveler

Thran Temporal Gateway

Wishclaw Talisman

Ral Zarek

I'm fully aware you gave these cards the "VETO", but even here, I believe they have a good place in this deck. I think I already said enough. That said, if you want all of them in; that's a 13 card cut in some way; 12 as ol Ral #1 will be in anyway for high versatility.

So, 12 Max to cut, but 8 at least reaches 99 + 1. I'll try & find a deck of yours I could help with a Suggestion or 2, but I'd rather wait until IKORIA Spoilers Shape Up.

...i seriously owe you at least that...

...

Artatras on "The Many-Faced God" - [[Primer]]

4 weeks ago

Hi _Putrefax and thanks for your suggestions!

I see where you are going with your stax pieces, but it is not necessarily the direction that I want to take. Damping Sphere does not have that much of an impact in Commander, apart from hurting storm strategies. Thorn of Amethyst has a similar effect, but it hoses me even worse. I have very limited mana resources, and every single mana is extremely important for me. I like Defense Grid a little bit more because, as you said, it makes me much harder to interact with. However, I am not a huge fan of these symmetrical effects. I have many instants in this deck, and the grid neuters my ability to interact with my opponents.

I really like, however, Mana Web. It either slows my opponents' gameplans or limits their interaction. Most importantly, it's effect is asymmetrical. I don't get hurt by it, and I like it a lot. I will be considering the Web for sure.

I have never had a great experience with either Meekstone and Crawlspace. Every time I have played those cards, they have never had that much of an impact on the game in my favour. I have never thought about Ensnaring Bridge, but I guess it makes sense. I can control Lazav's power at will and I don't have too many cards in hand, so it's worth the try.

Null Rod is actually unplayable for us. With it on the board, if Lazav ever becomes an artifact creature (and he will, considering our wincon creatures are artifacts), we won't be able to activate his ability again as long as the Rod stays on the board.

Karn, the Great Creator's effect is, once again, asymmetrical and can be taken into consideration. I particularly like his -2 ability, which is probably our only way of getting back any of our win conditions if they ever get exiled. I don't have too many available slots, but I hope I can squeeze it in somewhere.

As for Mystic Sanctuary, I admit I had underestimated it. One of my friends actually won a few games thanks to it, although with a completely different deck (Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow), where it makes even more sense. Still, I can't get around lands that have the chance to come into play tapped, and lands that must be considered more like a spell. To give you an example, I hate Bojuka Bog so much so that I don't play it in any of my decks. If I want graveyard hate stapled on a land I go for Scavenger Grounds, despite it being symmetrical. This is because Bojuka Bog, like Mystic Sanctuary, is more of a spell than a land. In the early game, I simply can't play them because it would be a waste. This means that, if in my first few turns of the game I have three lands in hand and one of them is a Bog or Sanctuary, then I have virtually just two lands. And if I am forced to play them immediately, it's a huge tempo loss since they come into play tapped. These kind of cards need to be drawn at the right time, otherwise they will be stuck in hand for an indefinite amount of time. Scavenger Grounds, on the contrary, can be played immediately with no downside and can be activated whenever we need. Of course I am not playing Scavenger Grounds in a Lazav deck, but this is just to explain you my line of thought. For these reasons, I would rather play Snapcaster Mage or Mission Briefing over Mystic Sanctuary.

I am really curious to see what Laboratory Maniac wincons you will be throwing in, because I kind of need an "I-Win-The-Game" emergency plan. Can you please link your build once it's ready?

Thanks again for your suggestions. Cheers!

KayneMarco on Build That Wall

1 month ago

I’ld consider any to all of these:

• Leyline of Vitality
• Spidersilk Armor
• Aven Warcraft
• Oathsworn Giant
• Shield Wall
• Archangel of Strife
• Piety
• Steadfastness
• Defensive Maneuvers
• Solidarity
• Meekstone

The ones that show up in your suggestions are the ones I would for sure make room for because they give a constant boost to toughness. And one that shuts down a lot of creatures.

_Putrefax on "The Many-Faced God" - [[Primer]]

1 month ago

You could go more all in on stax as a way to stop interaction. Since after you've got your commander on board and the ability to throw stuff in your yard, you don't really cast spells too much apart from protection.

Damping Sphere, Thorn of Amethyst, Defense Grid, Mana Web type spells make you much harder to interact with while you punch face.

Ensnaring Bridge, Meekstone and Crawlspace don't affect you at all, but can stop people sending retaliation hits your way after you kill an opponent.

Generic stax like Null Rod, Grafdigger's Cage and Torpor Orb have the potential to absolutely hose your opponents and do almost nothing to you.

As far as non-stax pieces go, Karn, the Great Creator can get back any of your ARTIFACT combo pieces that have been exiled. Nothing better than winning with your Dreadnought after someone has exiled your graveyard. Mystic Sanctuary is an island that can get you a counterspell/tutor back after you use it.

I'm tempted to build a deck similar to this, but with a couple sneaky Lab Man wincons just incase.

GabrielBossei on Doran, lover of butts

1 month ago

Hello, can you explain to me if this deck pulls out any combos? If it does, which ones? also, the only card that i don't see here on your list that seems to fit perfectly is Meekstone . what do you think?

thom-le on Circu, Dimir Lobotomist

2 months ago

Hello, thanks for your interest in my deckbuilding of Circu Circu's Field of Dreams (Lantern) [Primer]. To your question: Basically yes, the combo Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter , but I'm unsatisfied with this win condition. While playing the deck one of the problems is the board presence and also some hate coming from other players for taxing their stuff. Nevertheless I'd keep the Isochron Scepter-combo in as addition. With this artifact you can also imprint other important spells like Mystical Tutor, Reality Shift and also Cabal Ritual so this card is doing well. I don't like to depend so much on one win condition, so I'm going on for some rebuild.

Unfortunately I have not found yet time to give the deck an update. I'm going to cut for sure Archfiend of Depravity (to less interactions, no protection at all), Wizened Snitches (4 CMC is too much), Meekstone (No cards to tap other creatures). I also question the amount of Counterspells in the deck, guess those cards are not so important. Surprisingly well performed so far has Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver.

The thing I'd work on is more on the Notion Thief + Whispering Madness -combo, working also with many other cards (Windfall, Day's Undoing, Teferi's Puzzle Box,...). Therefor think of Waste Not, Bone Miser or Words of Waste. Winning is possible with the Duskmantle Guildmage + Mindcrank -combo. Another card could be Twilight Prophet for some life gain..

From the actual new cards from Theros Beyond Death I'd think of Wavebreak Hippocamp for card draw, Nadir Kraken for additonal board presence.