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Taigam, Ojutai Master
Legendary Creature — Human Monk
Instant, sorcery, and Dragon spells you control can't be countered by spells or abilities.
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell from your hand, if Taigam, Ojutai Master attacked this turn, that spell gains rebound. (Exile the spell as it resolves. At the beginning of your next upkeep, you may cast that card from exile without paying its mana cost.)
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Taigam, Ojutai Master Discussion
1 month ago
(CAUTION: A Huge List of CMDRS dead ahead. If you can't comply, remember that I apologized for the huge wall.)
Well, I was just told how to do a Folder, but to choose what for decks is another thing entirely. Especially if such decks are either:
A: What Everyone Plays B: Are good, but have since been outdated by a year C: Are Tribal Leaders in a Specific Sense (No Morophon, the Boundless please.) D: Not Underdog CMDRs. E: Other.
Let's Just assume we use that cEDH Deck Tier List One-by-One; but w/ a new rule for Playtesting such decks so none of the cEDH Decks win out of overall ratios ~100% of the time; CHANNELFIREBALL-style. That said, From using the Tier List, I require the following CMDR Decks to not have cEDH Level Power, but are these:
The First Sliver (Not as a Sliver Tribe Leader)
Animar, Soul of Elements (Morph Decks not allowed.)
Baral, Chief of Compliance (Get your Counterspells Ready!)
General Tazri (Mandatory Ally Tribe Leader)
Scion of the Ur-Dragon (Possible Dragon Tribe Leader)
Tier 3: WIP
But, yeah, you get the picture, right? Since I can't find such decks on my own to put in such a folder for decks worth testing against your own. Rules are as follows though:
Each deck must not be of cEDH-level power; just imagine how much hell I'd have to playthrough against something just to beat a Thrasios/Tymna Partners deck just to have my claim on this notion nullified.
Decks must include CMDRs that are Popular, were Popular as well as Tribal Decks w/ Good Tribe Leaders (For example: The First Sliver & Sliver Queen do not fit this category where Sliver Overlord does fit the Sliver Tribe Leadership. Scion of the Ur-Dragon & The Ur-Dragon can both count as Dragon Tribe CMDRs. Atraxa, Praetors' Voice is actually a bad CMDR to use in Superfriends, but Shines in all Counter Life. Make good use of that instead of making a 4< Color Walkers Deck. The rulings go on...)
I know this is too much for now, but I'm making a folder for Playtesting w/ decks as everyone kept telling me to do so; now I want to hold my end of the Bargain. But I seriously need help from you to do this. If you can find any decks here to add to such a Folder, put it on the comments below.
(& no, It's not like it's a personal thing! Anyone is allowed to use it when it's finished!)
2 months ago
I was inspired to build a Dragonlord Ojutai deck after checking this list out and it's been a blast to play. A few different cards I have in mine that have been really good to me are Narset Transcendent , Taigam, Ojutai Master and Reconnaissance
2 months ago
Fact or Fiction and Thirst for Knowledge are two cards I recommend, right off the bat. Chart a Course is good when you're already attacking. Windfall is great, especially since you're already running Narset, Parter of Veils . Compulsive Research and Archmage's Charm are good if paired with Taigam, Ojutai Master 's rebound ability. Similarly, the less-common one-mana cantrips may be much better if they're rebounding. Consider Serum Visions , Sleight of Hand , Gitaxian Probe and Opt . Similarly, casting Leap or Shadow Rift will give your general two turns worth of evasion, all while netting you a card.
If you're looking for more repeated sources of card advantage, planeswalkers may be your best bet. Teferi, Hero of Dominaria is an excellent card in EDH, and I've had good success with it. Jace, the Mind Sculptor is a card that a lot of people s--- on in EDH, saying it's just a Brainstorm a turn. This is true enough, but a Brainstorm a turn is excellent if you pair it with your fetch lands. Windswept Heath , Marsh Flats and Arid Mesa are also worth adding, simply for the shuffle-effect and the deck-thinning; I see you're not running any basic Plains , but that can be changed. Narset Transcendent is great. Jace Beleren is alright, as is Jace's Archivist .
I cannot recommend cutting Path to Exile enough. In Modern it's alright, but in EDH, where everyone is doing big, dangerous things, ramping your opponents is outright dangerous. Adding something like Supreme Verdict or Wrath of God may be better.
Consider more two-mana rocks: Casting one of these turn two means your general likely comes down turn three. Azorius Signet , Mind Stone , Thought Vessel , Fellwar Stone and the soon-to-release Arcane Signet are all good ideas for inclusion.
Depending on your meta, Retribution of the Meek may be a good idea. It kills most fatty blockers your opponents might have, and leaves Taigam, Ojutai Master on the board. But if your meta is similar to mine (Storm/Combo, Stax, and not much else), it may just end up being a dead card.
It strikes me that your general incentivizes you to use your mana during your main phase, unlike most blue generals. Playing at instant speed is still pretty powerful, though, and I see you've included Mana Drain , Counterspell and friends. Consider running As Foretold , which allows you to cast counter magic for free on your opponents' turns as well while tapping out. Currently, you'd need either Force of Will or Pact of Negation to do that.
Good luck with deck building!
2 months ago
Greetings, human! Below are my suggestions; feel free to heed/ignore them as you choose.
In EDH, playtesting with your meta is really the only way to know how much counter, burn and card-draw you need. That being said, you typically want a cantrip and a counter in your opening hand, which means running approximately 5 - 10 of each is a good idea. I think Preordain should definitely be in your deck alongside your Ponder , and Brainstorm becomes astronomically better with shuffle effects. Although the Zendikar and Onslaught fetches can be very expensive, cheaper alternatives definitely exist: Terramorphic Expanse is functionally identical with the Evolving Wilds I see you're running; the slow fetches (like Flood Plain and Rocky Tar Pit ) are on the table; and Ash Barrens is around $3 these days. Aside from Preordain , some card-draw/filtering spells I advise at least considering are: Impulse , Chart a Course , Faithless Looting , Chemister's Insight , Archmage's Charm , Think Twice , Oona's Grace , Frantic Search , Sleight of Hand , Pull from Tomorrow , Fact or Fiction , Dig Through Time and Treasure Cruise . Slate of Ancestry is an artifact source of repeatable card advantage.
I suggest Faithless Looting , Chemister's Insight , Think Twice and Oona's Grace because you can cast them from your graveyard. This will give you extra triggers off of Kykar, Wind's Fury and Jeskai Ascendancy . Similarly, if you choose to run cards like Young Pyromancer and Monastery Mentor (which I highly suggest you do), these cards will get additional triggers as well. Murmuring Mystic is another creature to consider, as is Taigam, Ojutai Master .
Burn spells are tough in EDH, if only because you have three times as many opponents as usual, and they all have double the usual life total. So burn is typically going to be spot removal or mass removal rather than to-the-face, like in Modern. Generally, I do not recommend running many one-for-ones in a format where you're facing three opponents rather than one; the only one-for-one I highly suggest is Swords to Plowshares . Electrolyze is an instant that does not cost card advantage, so I advise this too. Mass-removal, like Wrath of God , Pyroclasm or Supreme Verdict is generally much more successful. However, because of your general and the nature of your deck, you'll likely want to only run one or two board-wipes. Things like Shattering Spree , By Force , Dust to Dust , Return to Dust , Grasp of Fate and Vandalblast are also worth considering.
Counter magic is good. I advise adding a few spells to your current package. Consider the following: Swan Song , Dispel , Exclude , Unified Will , Remand (maybe -- it's a meta call), Negate , Flusterstorm , and, provided you have access, Cryptic Command , Force of Will , Mana Drain and Pact of Negation .
An area that I see as being capable of a lot of improvement is your mana-base. Though the best fixing is, of course, wildly expensive, affordable options exist. Steam Vents , Hallowed Fountain and Sacred Foundry are all about $10 or so these days, as are City of Brass and Mana Confluence . I personally like Reflecting Pool , Exotic Orchard and Forbidden Orchard as well.
As Foretold is at least worth considering. Aetherflux Reservoir is, I think, probably better than Sentinel Tower , though if your meta is filled with creatures you can nail with the Sentinel Tower then you may wish to keep it. If you want to go on the aggro plan, Supreme Phantom is also worth considering, as is Intangible Virtue . Kindred Discovery is good if you name "Spirits." If you are like me and don't have ethical qualms about infinite combos, Isochron Scepter with Dramatic Reversal is a good way to make infinite tokens if you have enough rocks out.
Speaking of rocks, I like your current suite. I'd also consider Mind Stone , Coldsteel Heart (maybe), Fellwar Stone and Everflowing Chalice . Arcane Signet is coming out soon, and that's definitely worth an include.
Right. That's all from me. Good luck with deck-building!
3 months ago
Wow, so my ratioes were completely scued. My friend is already doing Paradox Scepter Urza. So, even though that was my go to win, when I was looking at cEDH just for inspiration for my decks, I want to try to not use that. I have been thinking of Storm Kess and Consultation Kess, but I have a hard time finding complete optimized lists for inspiration.
Previously, I did goof around and made a Taigam, Ojutai Master and a Fblthp, the Lost Xerox. But, as I said, the wincons are the same as my friends Urza and I want to try and avoid redundancy. I can make those public for you to see where I am at with understanding the format if you would like
4 months ago
As a note Time walk is not EDH legal and Kefnet is ok with turn spells that exile themselves
You’ll be casting a copy and only the copy get’s exiled, but you don’t care about that anyways it’s just a copy
There are the core turn spells like Time Warp , Temporal Manipulation , and Capture of Jingzhou that will be the absolute best. But ones like Temporal Trespass with their own cost reducing abilities are nice, especially since you actually “cast” the copy so you can pay alternative costs like Delve
I also don’t think you really need a Lab man/Jace win unless you have an alternative infinite draw combo. When you demonstrate turns you can also just beat your opponents in the face with your dead bird, yeah it’s 6 hits each but you’re on turns anyways. At least that’s what I do with my Taigam, Ojutai Master Intuition Turns deck trying to win by turn 4/5
Other than that it seems like it’s mostly money upgrades to your core categories: Ramp, draw, and tutor so you can get your combo online ASAP. For what cards to get for that I’d recommend looking at the aforementioned Taigam deck or looking up a cEDH primer.
Also: don’t be afraid to proxy some cards. No one should pay $1,400 for a single piece of cardboard, or even $200 really. Personal opinion, you do you on that.
4 months ago
Fist of Suns doesn't cheat out creatures for 0. Fist of Suns replaces what you can pay, not the CMC. Morophos effects the CMC.
28 land is way too little. Bane of Progress , Planar Cleansing and cards that remove artifacts destroy your game. Reliquary Tower , Ash Barrens , Unclaimed Territory , Haven of the Spirit Dragon , Path of Ancestry are all land that should be in the deck.
Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma fits the theme, and gives all the dragons that don't have it trample
You need removal. Vindicate removes the Propaganda that destroys your swinging. Crackling Doom removes the opponents biggest creature. Assassin's Trophy and/or Putrefy removes a endless-combo piece. Swords to Plowshares removes indestructible. Removal is crucial to advancing your own game.
Temur Ascendancy is a card that helps you draw more, and the haste on dragons is amazing
Taigam, Ojutai Master is my last consideration. Makes sure your dragons hit the battlefield.
5 months ago
Aceh The goggles will only copy a red instant or sorcery so I don't think I'd be able to get a ton of use out of it since I won't always have red spell to copy with it. Thanks for the suggestion!
alechodgin23 Thanks! I've had a bunch of explosive wins myself; seems your friend enjoys the deck too! Aetherflux Reservoir I've kinda avoided using but I'd include it if I want to bump up my win rate.
Taigam, Ojutai Master was in the deck before and didn't do too much. But the uncounterable ability on him is pretty useful if more counterspells start popping up in my meta.
I've had my eye on Maelstrom Nexus or a while but haven't picked on up yet. I'll probably find a slot for it in my next deck update.
Thanks for the suggestions!
Taigam, Ojutai Master occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.01%