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Enchantment — Aura
(Blue)(Blue): Enchanted creature phases out.
1 week ago
Would the card Vanishing work to prevent the scion from reassuming his normal form at end of turn? If he doens't exist, he can't change form, so when he phases back in, he will be still transformed, right?
2 weeks ago
Cool idea with good execution!
Not sure if you are 100% satisfied with your mana base, some stuff like Esper Panorama, Darkwater Catacombs, Skycloud Expanse, and Ash Barrens can help fix your mana, I always find Zur is a hassle to get out without stretching the budget. There are also somewhat worse options like Obscura Storefront, it's worse than Arcane Sanctum but not by a ton. I recently found out about Planar Atlas, but this looks like exactly what Zur needs to get out faster, but I do run Signets and Signet Lands, so I have more use for colourless arguably. If you're using a Sun Titan, any lands that fetch something before going to the Graveyard become pretty strong in my experience, but Myriad Landscape is hilarious if you can recur it.
Not sure if it's outside your budget, but Mirrormade is the cheapest Copy Enchantment I know of that Zur can fetch, and it can also copy an artifact, so if there is a ramp rock out Zur can find mana. Another way Zur can ramp you is The Restoration of Eiganjo Flip, which also turns into a creature. Dance of Many is a pretty interesting option if someone has a really big body out against you, not sure if you face many Blightsteels.
If you like to run Rule of Law effects in Zur, you might enjoy using a little Moderation to fuel you, it's a nice cheap card. If you can draw enough cards, Stronghold Machinist and/or Stronghold Biologist are pretty interesting cards. Obviously better with Necropotence though.
If you have Vanishing on Zur, you can fetch Out of Time to wipe the board in a shockingly thorough manner, if the board is full nothing is coming back. Obviously better if you can copy it before it goes away, but Copy Enchantment and Estrid's Invocation are both pretty pricey, and there are few things as good as copying All That Glitters. Another weird thing you could do is combine Spy Kit with Cornered Market, nobody can play creatures, if you have Zur out then you should be set.
If Propaganda or Ghostly Prison are too pricey, War Tax can be an interesting alternative, it's especially useful in a Rule of Law deck where you can't play multiple Sorcery speed spells, this lets you use spare mana to hassle whomever you want, it's non-targeted and scales with the game.
I always wonder if non-cEDH Zur decks should consider running Honden of Seeing Winds and Sanctum of Calm Waters to draw cards, Zur can find you a few other Shrines if you ever draw into a Draw engine, none better than Sanctum of Stone Fangs. I guess you'd have to decide how much work 2-3 cards per turn is worth, at least once it's set up it doesn't use more resources.
2 months ago
Exquisite Blood would be pretty nice with Zur's Weirding Out, in addition to giving life for Necropotence, and with Protection Racket, it's one thing to pay a few life to keep you from getting a free card, giving you free life feels pretty awful, and Zur can dig out Protection when you just want cards without paying life. You can mention to people you don't run any 2 card combos, so they won't worry about the Sanguine Bond combo with Exquisite Blood.
With Merieke and Zur, I feel like you'd want Pemmin's Aura and/or Freed from the Real, once Zur puts the Aura on her, it's U to kill target creature, and when you're out of U you keep the best creature you can steal until you have mana again. If Merieke is a card you like digging out, there are 3 mana Transmute cards fwiw, Perplex, Dimir Machinations and the ungodly bad Drift of Phantasms.
For Zur, I like having the option to go Voltron, to do so I run All That Glitters and Heliod, Sun-Crowned. If one copy of All That Glitters doesn't quite cut it, there is also Michiko's Reign of Truth Flip, but I mostly use Copy Enchantment, Estrid's Invocation and Mirrormade to make more Glitters if I want a bigger Zur, 3 is usually a 1 hit kill fwiw, and he can dig out an Unblockable aura or Thassa, God of the Sea technically. For Shroud I like Greater Auramancy, but there is also Diplomatic Immunity to consider.
If you don't mind running Vanishing, which is a very good 'dodge' effect for Zur that doesn't cost him Auras/Counters, you can also run the very funny Out of Time to just wipe creatures pretty much permanently. If you have Copy Enchantment effects, you can duplicate this before it goes away to lock away another group of creatures, very nasty vs large creature boards, and Zur finds both pieces.
Another funny Zur card is Dance of Many, which can duplicate a creature you can target, a very strong effect if your meta cares about powerful creatures. If people run Mill in your area, Nighthowler can be fetched out for a big creature or be drawn to make Zur bigger.
You can't fetch it out, but like Mother of Runes it's very good to have out, Devoted Caretaker can offer very versatile protection to more stuff.
If you want something pretty dirty you can pull out vs opponents that are running stronger than expected decks, your Smothering Tithe works very well with Stasis, which also likes Black Market Connections, though you'll want Brave the Sands to give Zur (and your board) Vigilance. Stasis also likes Archon of Emeria and you're already running Thalia, Heretic Cathar. It's certainly not fetching out Heliod after you've dropped Balista, this doesn't win on the spot, but it's a very strong/nasty effect to have access to, even if you don't dig it out very often. Fortunately Stasis is the only piece you wouldn't want to draw!
3 months ago
Have you thought about Dance of Many? In a more casual Zur list, duplicating the best creature on the table with Zur seems pretty good. The Restoration of Eiganjo Flip can be ramp or recursion, both of which can be worth fetching up. I think you've got enough useful bodies to look at Mother of Runes, she can make stuff hard to block or protect stuff, both are useful I find. Out of Time and Vanishing feels pretty good if there are lots of creatures in the decks you play against. Dreadhorde Invasion is a nice cheap source of bodies, and it can get big if you've slowed the game down, great to find if you've found your Ertai. I also love Luminarch Ascension to generate 4/4 flyers if I can lock the board down.
It's not very casual I suppose, but Stasis is really good in Zur Stax, especially with Smothering Tithe or Black Market Connections. You'd probably want either Reconnaissance or Brave the Sands if you use Stasis.
4 months ago
I have a Dragon tribal deck that has Renari, Merchant of Marvels and Dragon Cultist as my commander and background. I recently played a few games with it and once I had 2 dragons they became a target. I know this is what comes with big creatures. So my question is what are some way to protect them? The deck theme is around casting dragons at instant speed and blinking them for extra value. I can see the blinking as somewhat of Protection. But so fat I have; Deadeye Navigator, Displacer Kitten, Essence Flux, Ghostly Flicker, March of Swirling Mist, Planar Incision, Teferi's Time Twist, Vanishing, Vodalian Illusionist. Let no if I am missing something in the blink category or if there are other forms of protect I can use. Here is a link to my decklist.
6 months ago
Hey, thanks for all the upvotes at my decks.
Nice start for mono blue and interesting Commander who I don't see played much. You have 101 cards, Desolation Twin could be cut to make 100. It's a much worse Eldrazi then the others.
Your deck could be less price, it's not overpriced garbage, but you could cut the price in half and it would be just as good. Three of the most expensive price cards here are Blightsteel, Ulamog and Betrays, but without more protection, counterspells and some more haste these creatures can be subpar to cheat with Braids because they don't give you value unless they can attack. Each of these creatures is a must kill by opponents. If you don't get to attack the first turn you give your opponents an entire cycle of turns to find an answer which in multiplayer Commander is a lot time. Treasure Mage is another creature who can tutor for Blightsteel.
Consider some more lower mana cost hard counterspells such as Arcane Denial and some creatures who can protect such as Spellskite? Protecting Braids is not as important as protecting what you cheat onto the battlefield because opponents are getting value from Braids too. More one mana instant protection is helpful such as Stubborn Denial and Slip Out the Back which is phasing and it's powerful with Braids.
Swiftfoot Boots is a lesser Greaves, but still fine and wanted in blue that doesn't have haste options. Akroma's Memorial is more price, but it's a big artifact to cheat with Braids that helps to setup other big creatures since it gives haste as well as other attacking abilities. Might also want to play Tribute Mage because can tutor for Greaves.
If you play Blightsteel, Ulamog and Betrays also consider playing some big creatures who give you value without attacking such as Hullbreaker Horror and Tidespout Tyrant? Each are much less price and can pack a punch without attacking. With Braids you'll have mana open to cast spells after your upkeep, use this mana for protection while also getting value from each spell you cast.
Bounce the permanents that your opponents cheat with Braids because the first turns cycle opponents get to trigger Braids before you. Bounce your own clones to clone something else or them. Both of these creatures when you control two them can infinite combo with Sol Ring. Bounce your own creatures who draw to cast or cheat them to draw again. Bouncing Braids can be a smart strategy because sometimes you don't want to give opponents the upkeep trigger and maybe you don't need the trigger.
Phasing, when you can control when a creature phases out is a busted effect with Braids. Vanishing can repeatedly protect Braids if you need that or deny your opponents her trigger because of how phasing works, only phasing in at your untap step. With Vanishing you can phase out Braids at any time or after your upkeep trigger which skips all your opponents upkeeps. It also protects her from opponent's sorcery board wipes which are plentiful in multiplayer Commander. You don't have to phase out Braids, but having the option can be helpful and you can politic with it by letting one opponent have the upkeep trigger and skipping the rest.
A phased out creature also phases out all auras/equipment that's attached to it, Vanishing is protected from removal when Braids is phased out. Vodalian Illusionist can also repeatedly phase out Braids. Combine phase out with Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir to protect during your turn especially any hasty creatures you cheat with Braids. If you can get Teferi down before you cast Braids then you can flash Braids in before your upkeep to trigger her before your opponents.
Consider more draw especially from creatures such as Nezahal, Primal Tide or artifacts such as The Magic Mirror that Braids can cheat? Nezahal is Mystic Remora which is excellent in multiplayer Commander with a big body who can protect itself. With Mirror you can stack the upkeep triggers to draw before Braids trigger. Mulldrifter is a budget creature for draw who can also be easily cast and is a nice target to clone/create token or bounce.
Braids is a Wizard you could take advantage of some Wizard only effects such as Azami, Lady of Scrolls can repeatedly draw two cards by tapping her and Braids. Galecaster Colossus can repeatedly bounce two nonland permanents opponents cheated with Braids. Riptide Laboratory can repeatedly bounce Braids. Combine this effect with Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir to deny your opponents Braids triggers by flash cast her at last opponent's end step and then after your upkeep bounce her with Riptide. Teferi is also a Wizard.
Vedalken AEthermage can Wizardcycle to get any Wizard including Orvar, the All-Form who does count as a Wizard while in your library/hand/graveyard. Vodalian Illusionist is also a Wizard. Wizard's Retort is Counterspell with Braids.
I like the secondary strategy of cloning your own or opponents permanents and/or gaining control of your opponents permanents that they cheat with Braids. You could expand on this strategy with Agent of Treachery, who is more price, but he can gain control of any permanent. He's also not legendary making him an excellent clone/create token target since the more of him you have the easier to control three permanents you don't own to then repeatedly draw. He's a good target to bounce because you don't lose the permanent you gained control of. Clever Impersonator can clone any nonland permanent.
Instants with buyback that target such as Mind Games and Capsize are good with Orvar, the All-Form to repeatedly trigger it. Capsize can be a win condition when you create infinite blue mana which mono blue is quite good at doing. If you want go this route you wouldn't have to add very many cards. In fact Orvar + Peregrine Drake + any buyback instant that targets is a combo for infinite blue mana from Islands as well as infinite Drake tokens as a potential win condition.
Consider more ramp? You're playing a lot of high CMC spells that you're counting on Braids to cheat them, but if you don't control Braids then more ramp could help to cast these spells. More ramp can also help to be able to cast Braids and have mana up for instant interaction the turn you play her.
High Tide is a favorite of mono blue since it's only one mana and playing so many Islands. Caged Sun with or without Braids can help to repeatedly cast almost any spell. Combine Tide/Sun with a draw spell such as Pull from Tomorrow or Blue Sun's Zenith to draw a lot of cards at instant speed, giving you a lot of options of permanents to cheat with Braids.
Good luck with your deck.
6 months ago
I would try and find more ways to protect Grolnok besides Swiftfoot Boots if you can. The dude's too important for your strategy, amd if he gets blown up, you're set back by quite a lot.
6 months ago
Yes that will work. When your next upkeep starts, the "exile this" triggered ability will go onto the stack, and you can respond by activating Vanishing. The exiling ability won't be able to do anything to the phased-out creature.