Helldozer

Creature — Zombie Giant

(Black)(Black)(Black), Tap: Destroy target land. If that land was nonbasic, untap Helldozer.

Discussion (50)

Grind on The Panther King of Control

6 months ago

Cool deck. Bane of Progress seems good considering how few artifacts and enchantments you play.
But Crucible of Worlds might be worth including.
Depending on how much LD you want to run, Wasteland , Dust Bowl , Shivan Harvest , Helldozer might be playable.
Also Opposition Agent is a must as it shuts down most land ramp and fetch lands.

Optimator on Giant's Deck

10 months ago

It looks like the spoilers that I put the non-Boros giant suggestions aren't working. So weird. I'll try to reconstruct what I suggested.

So I know you had your heart set on Brion as your commander, but I wanted to list all the good giants with , and in their colors, as there are a bunch that are excellent. Brion doesn't bring much to the giant-tribal table other than a small-ish lifelinking Giant body and occasional face-damage. You may want to use Iroas, God of Victory or Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas as your commander if you're dead-set on staying Boros colors. If the idea of fully exploring Giants in Magic's history is the goal, and being the most Giant-y deck, having more colors or all five colors will give you a greater creature spread and significantly help with the deck's function.

Arbor Colossus - great rate! Worth considering

Beanstalk Giant - ramp AND a giant body! Worth considering

Earthshaker Giant - Worth considering

Garenbrig Paladin - playable, but probably wouldn't make the cut in a five-color deck

Gorm the Great - interesting choice, and nice at four mana, but probably not worth a slot

Marshdrinker Giant - odd removal piece.

Nylea's Colossus - good effect even without a ton of enchantment support. Worth considering

Outland Colossus - Worth considering

Rampart Smasher - watch out, Knights! Probably wouldn't make the cut

Skyshroud Troll - Regeneration is always nice, but the stats aren't great

Sunder Shaman - fucking awesome giant. One of the best reasons to consider running Green cards. Can't recommend enough.

Swarmborn Giant - kinda a weird one, but interesting nonetheless

Towering Titan - potentially awesome! Worth considering

Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath - fucking incredible. Pretend you're terrorizing standard! That pricetag though :(

Valleymaker - very interesting utility. Potentially worth considering, but might not make the cut in a five-color deck.

Yorvo, Lord of Garenbrig - Absolutely stellar Giant. three on-color might be hard to swing in a five-color deck, although any deck would probably lean Green due to ramp and utility. Very much worth considering.

Frost Titan - outstanding giant. One excellent reason to run Blue. Highly recommended, like all the titans. Too bad Prime-Time is banned! (Primeval Titan)

Galecaster Colossus - extremely strong Giant. better in Wizard-tribal decks, but is still really good on its own.

Oloro, Ageless Ascetic - A real powerhouse. Highly recommended

Ruhan of the Fomori - Another excellent giant. Highly recommended

Skaab Goliath - Pretty decent. Might not make the cut in 5-color but worth considering]

Thryx, the Sudden Storm - Incredible! Ramp AND a flying body. A perfect reason to run Blue. Highly recommended

Bartel Runeaxe - this is a giant. Probably only worth running for the memes. Expensive too. A piece of Giant Magic history though.

Doomwake Giant - Pretty decent even without Enchantment support--lots of one-toughness support creatures out there.

Erebos's Titan - slightly recursive threat. Decent

Grave Titan - an utter powerhouse. One of the best giants. Highly recommended

Grixis Slavedriver - decent for a common. Probably not quite worth a slot.

Helldozer - pretty good! Three on-color might be hard but the payoff is huuuge.

Knight of the Last Breath - leaving behind blockers is pretty good. (Mana)-expensive though.

Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger - Pretend you're terrorizing Standard!! Incredible Giant, but expensive.

Necrosavant - recursive creature, but you probably don't want to be sacrificing giants

Nightfire Giant - could be decent utility. Not the strongest giant but worth looking at

Tithebearer Giant - good for a common I suppose!

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So as you can see, there are a bunch of fantastic Giants outside of Red and White colors. The stand-outs on a budget are:

Arbor Colossus - Beanstalk Giant - Earthshaker Giant - Outland Colossus - Sunder Shaman - Yorvo, Lord of Garenbrig - Frost Titan - Ruhan of the Fomori - Thryx, the Sudden Storm - Helldozer

I should have a Frost Titan, Arbor Colossus, and Outland Colossus for trade.

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Once you have the deck for a while, snagging Grave Titan - Oloro, Ageless Ascetic - Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger - Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath- Towering Titan as upgrades would be well-worth it.

Optimator on Giant's Deck

10 months ago

Some more giants that are worth considering:

Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas - Kalemne is bae, but I'm biased.

Realm-Cloaked Giant - this card is mandatory.

Hundred-Handed One

Quarry Colossus - this one is passable.

Grasping Giant - I love this one--just put it in my Giant deck

Oathsworn Giant - Good utility if you are wanting to swing out every turn

Swathcutter Giant - I actually kinda like this one a lot.

Sentinel of the Eternal Watch -

Taurean Mauler - one of the best giants, sadly

Bonecrusher Giant - pretend you're terrorizing Standard!

Arbiter of Knollridge - gimmicky but fun.

Boldwyr Intimidator - I have one in my Warrior deck. Very funny card. Not exactly a powerhouse at 7CMC but the unblockable aspect could win a game here and there.

Siegebreaker Giant - Pretty good for 5 mana IMO

Non-Boros Giants Show

Now I know you had your heart set on Brion Stoutarm as your commander, but in case you wanted to fully deep-dive into true giant-tribal representation, here are the giants you may be missing out on. I said this last year, but if you aren't utilizing Brion's ability much you may be better off with Iroas, God of Victory or Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas as your commander. Or, a commander with other colors. Still, a 4/4 lifelinker with occasional utility is passable. Lifelink is underrated in EDH in my opinion.

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Beanstalk Giant - Ramp AND a giant body

Thryx, the Sudden Storm - Ramp and a giant FLYING body!

Sunder Shaman - fantastic removal. Love this guy. Kind of like a giant Trygon Predator.

Frost Titan and Grave Titan - the Titans are just stellar. Too bad Prime-Time (Primeval Titan) is banned!

Ondu Giant

Outland Colossus - great rate

Arbor Colossus - great rate

Earthshaker Giant

Oloro, Ageless Ascetic

Ruhan of the Fomori

Helldozer is pretty good, but three on-color is often difficult to do in a five-color deck

Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger and Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath - pretend you're terrorizing Standard and Modern!

Yorvo, Lord of Garenbrig - Three on-color is difficult in three- and five-color decks, but most would skew Green for the utility and ramp cards so it wouldn't be impossible.

Nylea's Colossus - Doomwake Giant - Decent on their own, even without a bunch of enchantments around them.

Howling Giant

Galecaster Colossus - good even by itself

Erebos's Titan - a weird one!

Jotun Owl Keeper - another weird one!

Gorm the Great

Towering Titan

Garenbrig Paladin

Benthic Giant

Tithebearer Giant

Rampart Smasher

One thing that's tricky with Giants is that they are traditionally commons and uncommons; usually rare large red creatures are Dragons. As such, many giants are pretty low-impact or poor deals for their mana (think of the classic Hill Giant). There are enough good ones to fill out a deck, though, but you gotta hunt for them.

Heliogabale on Screaming Bald Guys Tribal MK2

1 year ago

Solid theme! :p

Stone Giant would be better than Hill Giant.

Helldozer would work in here.

Would Necropotence fit the theme?

Balinor5 on Mono B Zombies Sacrifice/Reanimate

1 year ago

Seems like Death Baron should be on the main board. I like to run Helldozer because he's fun and can take out nasty lands.

Westvale Abbey  ^Flip is also a decent card for decks that make lots of creatures.

Cabal Coffers is another good land in a straight black deck with lots of swamps.

SideBae on Zombo's and God's

2 years ago

As a general rule, adding things to slow your opponents down is a good way to start taking a deck to the next level. Idk how much search your meta has, but Ashiok, Dream Render works wonders against enemy tutors while also providing a level of graveyard hate.

Liliana, Death's Majesty is well under $10 and should be strongly considered for any zombie deck.

Unholy Grotto is a utility land you might be interested in, as it provides some recursion for your zombies.

You also seem to be relatively light on card draw or selection. Ponder , Preordain and Brainstorm are all good cantrips, especially if conjoined with shuffle effects like Evolving Wilds or Terramorphic Expanse . Personally, I like Night's Whisper and Chart a Course as two-for-ones, but I see you're running Phyrexian Arena ; that is a solid permanent which produces card advantage. Graveborn Muse is also a similar consideration, although the life loss may need to be countered by a Whip of Erebos or the like. In a similar vein, something like Slate of Ancestry may work well with the token-producers you have; Curse of Disturbance seems a good consideration to add to the token-package. It's worth noting that a large majority of EDH games are decided by card advantage.

I'm not sure how well Crypt of Agadeem works; I've had poor results with it. You may want to just run a basic land instead.

The Undermine slot is likely better served with Sinister Sabotage . In a format with 40 life, making an opponent lose 3 life is equivalent to draining them 1.5 life in a 20 life format. In all likelihood, you may just want the ability to filter your draws or (ideally) to bin a zombie, then cast it from the graveyard with Gisa and Geralf without needing to worry about wasting a draw on it.

I've also not had good experience with 3-mana artifact mana-producers. I suggest Dimir Signet and Talisman of Dominance instead of Mana Geode and Chromatic Lantern . Chromatic Lantern really only becomes strictly necessary in 4- or 5-color decks, and since you're 2, it seems superfluous.

I also notice you're running Xenograft and Arcane Adaptation . I don't think these cards are necessary, especially if you cut Call to the Grave for something like Grave Pact or Dictate of Erebos .

I always like seeing a list with Exquisite Blood in it; you should run Sanguine Bond as well, as these two together produce an auto-win. Also, if you put a way to grant lifelink (such as the aforementioned Whip of Erebos ), Sanguine Bond begins to act as a pseudo damage-doubler.

Depending on your meta and whether there are other creature-based black decks, Bad Moon may be a good insert as an anthem effect. Similarly, barring an over-abundance of artifact decks, you may want to include Ashes to Ashes as a two-for-one removal spell.

Since UMA came out, Entomb is only a few dollars; Buried Alive acts similarly. So I advise adding that, as well as reanimation effects like Animate Dead , Necromancy or Reanimate . Being able to produce a Grave Titan turn two is always a massive plus. But don't feel limited to just Grave Titan , though; things like Helldozer are good reanimation targets as well. If you just want big, black fatties, Massacre Wurm and Phyrexian Obliterator are two of my favorites (though they're relatively expensive).

Good luck with the zombies. The living dead are bosses.

bryanedds on Gruul Alternative Win Conditions

2 years ago

Coming up with a stax ban list. First pass -

Dream Tides Energy Flux Invoke Prejudice Mudslide Nether Void War Tax Contamination Death Cloud Dictate of Erebos Grave Pact Sheoldred, Whispering One Tainted AEther Decree of Annihilation Martyr's Bond Smokestack Razia's Purification Null Rod Stony Silence Words of Wind Creeping Dread Embargo Manabarbs Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker Painful Quandary Pestilence Pestilence Demon Pyrohemia Jace, Unraveler of Secrets Gaddock Teeg Iona, Shield of Emeria Kaervek the Merciless Void Winnower Ward of Bones Catastrophe Jokulhaups Lethal Vapors Dueling Grounds Ensnaring Bridge Silent Arbiter Leovold, Emissary of Trest Back to Basics Freyalise's Winds Hokori, Dust Drinker Mist of Stagnation Rising Waters Stasis Static Orb Tangle Wire Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger Winter Orb Blood Moon Destructive Flow Equipoise Helldozer Land Equilibrium Magus of the Moon Mana Vortex Ruination Bottomless Pit Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur Mind Slash Necrogen Mists Oppression Words of Waste Cursed Totem Hushwing Gryff Linvala, Keeper of Silence Portcullis Torpor Orb Ravages of War Armageddon Wildfire

ManfredManhunter on Saskia the Unyielding

2 years ago

Looks pretty... fun!
Faith's Reward and Sylvan Awakening are hilarious.

My concerns with the current list are:
1) Your avg cmc being pretty high. Some of the more expensive land destruction like Helldozer , Star of Extinction , Destructor Dragon ... and more dont seem worth the costs.
2) How do you capitalize on no lands being around? You dont have a ton of artifact ramp, or ways to cheat creatures in. Planewalker to victory would be sweet but there are only two and of them only Sorin can get there on an empty board.