You may cast Necromancy as though it had flash. If you cast it any time a sorcery couldn't have been cast, the controller of the permanent it becomes sacrifices it at the beginning of the next cleanup step.

When Necromancy enters the battlefield, if it's on the battlefield, it becomes an Aura with "enchant creature put onto the battlefield with Necromancy." Put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control and attach Necromancy to it. When Necromancy leaves the battlefield, that creature's controller sacrifices it.

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Necromancy Discussion

mlequesne on The Beamtown Bullies

2 days ago

Nice point there Zoldorn, I didn't see that. There might be ways to cast Animate Dead as instant but it would be easier to play Necromancy

Yesterday on Worldgorger Combo + ETBs?

4 days ago

Oh jeez, I just realised that I completely misunderstood what you were trying to do.

Yes, if you are constantly flickering your own The Beamtown Bullies as part of a Worldgorger Dragon combo, you can respond to the Woldgorger exile trigger to tap Beamtown Bullies to reanimate a Bronze Bombshell under you opponent's control. Your opponent will be made to sacrifice the Bombshell before your Worldgorger flickers everything again, and then you can rinse and repeat this.

In-colour for Beamtown Bullies as a commander, you could do this with Emergence Zone, Necromancy, Vedalken Orrery, or Vernal Equinox.

awatts30 on Varina

1 month ago

Thanks, Guerric! There’s a lot to parse here, so I may take it in parts.

Firstly, the extra lands are temporary. My target is 36, but I had 13 extra spells, so I added 7 basics (35% rate) to be able to goldfish effectively. Sometimes I can learn a bit more about the deck and make changes that way. As I pare down spells, I’ll take out lands too. I thought about Crucible of Worlds, but opted against it because it would change my play style, but without tutors or duplicate effects it’s too high-variance.

The Stifle is mostly there to stop graveyard hate, which tends to be one-off abilities (Bojuka Bog, Scavenger Grounds, Tormod's Crypt, Relic of Progenitus) and which could really mess up my plans. That’s a good point on Dovin's Veto; maybe I’ll swap it for a Negate.

I really like Reconnaissance because it not only allows me to attack into unfavorable board states but also gives pseudo-vigilance, allowing me to commit all my zombies without worrying about the crack back. Anything to maximize those Varina triggers! Flawless Maneuver might need to come out, though.

I’ve used Plumb the Forbidden to great effect in my Mazirek deck. Since it’s instant speed, it’s really good at turning creatures that would die to unfavorable combat or a board wipe into card advantage, and since it’s 2 CMC I can always just put the mana into Varina if I don’t wind up needing it. I had Kindred Discovery in there originally, but in a deck that’s both ETBing and swinging this much it seemed like overkill (plus it’s crazy expensive). A lot of my perspective on card draw may need to change, too. Like I said, I’m not used to using my graveyard, and while Varina let’s me look at a lot, I’m still uncomfortable throwing cards away. After all, they’re all in there because I want to cast them! I need to get better at choosing what to pitch (which is kind of the whole point of making this deck), but corollary to that is figuring out how much draw-to-hand I need and how much I can lean on my ‘yard.

A lot of the deck techs I’ve looked at leaned into Varina’s activated ability. I didn’t much like that because (1) it makes her into a glorified token factory, (2) I want to push myself to use the cards in my graveyard, and (3) why would I want to spend 2 mana and two cards for a vanilla zombie when I can spend 2 mana and one card for a Corpse Knight, a Wayward Servant, or 3 mana for a Diregraf Captain. In the little bit of goldfishing I’ve done, though, she’s dumping cards so fast that exiling two of them isn’t even a problem. I had originally taken Tormod, the Desecrator out, but wound up putting him back in because of the number of cards I was exiling. I’d like to bring it back toward a reanimator strategy, and I think Syr Konrad, the Grim would be a good payoff for that.

You have a ton of good suggestions, including Crashing Drawbridge, Dusk / Dawn, Necromancy et al. (I knew there were others, I just couldn’t remember them!), Living Death/Rise of the Dark Realms, Haunting Voyage/Patriarch's Bidding, and the talismans, but I still need to cut 13 spells to even get down to 100 cards, and then more to make room for any of them. This is my problem!

Guerric on Varina

1 month ago

As for suggestions, with Syr Konrad, the Grim you absolutely want to play Living Death. It's super powerful and so fun. You can wipe the board, bring all of your best stuff back, and do tons of damage. I'd also play Dusk / Dawn, which is a board wipe and recursion card stapled together. Rise of the Dark Realms is also a way to get everything back. It's tons of fun. You also need a lot more ramp, and they need to be all at 2cmc so you can play Varina early. You'll also want Crashing Drawbridge to give everything haste and get your engine going. You have the signets but need Talisman of Dominance, Talisman of Hierarchy, Talisman of Progress, and Coldsteel Heart. You want ten pieces of ramp that are 2cmc or less to hopefully get Varina out early and get you going. Necromancy, Dance of the Dead, and Diabolic Servitude are also great recursion pieces. I particularly love the latter because while it is 4cmc, it is the gift that keeps on giving. I'd also replace Dovin's Veto with Arcane Denial, which is easier to cast and more flexible, and add Oblation is for added flexibility with removal. I's also add most of the zombies from your maybe board as they are all great, and would skip over most of the non-zombies except Syr Konrad as they aren't good enough. If you are going to add any non-zombies I'd think about Blood Artist and Falkenrath Noble which will make blocking and killing your zombies less desirable for your opponents. I'd also skip most of the non-Zombie, non-Tribal cards in your maybe board. Fact or Fiction is good in many other decks, but its redundant to the point of being pointless here. We want to avoid the good stuff cards! Same goes with Training Grounds, Reflections of Littjara, and Idol of Oblivion. Kindred Discovery is so good here, but make sure to replace a sub-optimal card draw piece in your current list with it. Feast of Sanity looks wicked fun, so I'd definitely play that! Return from Extinction is super meh. You want to return things to the battlefield and not your hand!

xixhaseo on [Primer] Unleash the Dragon! *Updated*

1 month ago

I'm really surprised you don't play Shivan Hellkite Alongside Worldgorger Dragon, especially since you're already running Animate Dead and Necromancy. ( you could run Dance of the Dead too, it's really powerful even outside the combo) Unless there's some big Stigma in your playgroup about going infinite, worldgorger loop is definitely the most reliable way to win with scion.

Guerric on [Primer] Unleash the Dragon! *Updated*

1 month ago

I think I forgot to mention in the updates that I also changed out Unburial Rites for Necromancy and Fabricate for Grim Tutor. Since I did that earlier I didn't think to include them in the update thread. They are pretty obvious swaps in that both cards are strictly better.

Guerric on [Primer] Unleash the Dragon! *Updated*

2 months ago


Sorry about the delayed response, I was a bit tired last night and waited until morning. Fabricate probably could be cut. The targets are Whispersilk Cloak and Lightning Greaves which are sort of the easy button for protecting Scion, but we don't need them if we play conservatively.

I actually used to play Elemental Bond and Guardian Project in earlier versions of the deck, and while they are incredibly good in other decks, I found them to be at best win-more cards in this one. The thing is, creatures don't enter the battlefield as often as we might think. We can do a lot of damage with a small number of dragons, and some turns we won't have any new ones ETB. Where these cards payoff the most is when we play a mass recursion spell, but at that point we are winning the game anyway, so it isn't all that great. What does work incredibly well is Tome of Legends, which can pretty much get us an extra card for every turn we have it out, and Colossal Majesty is basically a second copy of Phyrexian Arena without the life loss, which is usually good enough. In a way, we are drawing cards by tutoring stuff into the graveyard, so we need our regular draw mostly to get our recursion pieces in hand.

Necromancy is good, and is definitely better than Unburial Rites which, while recurrable, is on the pricey side in terms of mana. I've mostly held out because it isn't super cheap, but I have some store credit at Card Kingdom and might pick that this week! I like Diabolic Servitude because it is recurrable- if the dragon dies it goes back to hand and we can use it again, and it's always a discount on hard-casting a card. You are right about the potential downside of the card being exiled, which is why I'd never use it on my most critical dragons like Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund. I should definitely add that to the primer though! As for Yawgmoth's Will, that is great, but I own all my decks in paper and the real world price tag is a bit prohibitive. It has its price tag for a reason though!

I hadn't thought of Rishkar's Expertise! I think this is a risky deck, and one which plays with big mana, so it probably is worth it! I'm definitely ok with burst card draw as long as it get's at least three cards for a good return on mana and I don't play too much of it. This card could easily refill my hand later in the game when I need it, and get me a free permanent on top of that. Great suggestion!

Profet93 on [Primer] Unleash the Dragon! *Updated*

2 months ago

Guerric +1

I see other users have mentioned removing Crucible of Fire, so even though I agree, I won't suggest it since you enjoy using it. Fabricate is a possible cut as your only meaningful targets are for draw and protection, which is nice, but a bit too slow for my tastes. How has fabricate played for you?

No Urborg or Yavimaya (green urborg?)

Elemental Bond > Colossal Majesty due to the fact that it triggers more than once per turn, is easier to trigger. Also, do note Garruk's Uprising as another alternative to collasal. Lastly worth mentioning is Guardian Project, while the most expensive and can be responded with removal to stop the draw, it is the easiest to trigger.

Diabolic Servitude seems cool but given your GY synergies, how much does the exiling hurt? Not to mention at 4 cmc, it's expensive reanimation given black's standards. Necromancy could be a good swap. While not (possibly) repeatable, it is cheaper to cast, has the option of flash and does not exile the creature upon removal. Lastly, Yawgmoth's Will is just nice general recursion.

Have you considered Rishkar's Expertise or is it too risky? You like a lot of steady card draw, I take it you're not a fan of burst card draw.

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