Ashiok, Dream Render

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Ashiok, Dream Render

Legendary Planeswalker — Ashiok

Spells and abilities your opponents control can't cause their controller to search their library.

-1: Target player mills four cards. Then exile each opponent's graveyard. (That player puts the top four cards of their library into their graveyard.)

Bookrook on I need help creating a …

1 month ago

Cool deck! I feel like a few copies of traditional control spells might find a place in here, like Fell,Go for the Throat, and Memory Deluge. I would take out the Shadow of Doubt and bring in a copy of Ashiok, Dream Render, as it is continuous and serves as graveyard hate. A finisher might be nice like Hullbreaker Horror to push through your infect spells and generally wreak havoc.

wallisface on Winter Moon

4 months ago

Icbrgr Yeah Winter Moon feels odd here in that it normally won't be doing a lot. None of these cards particularly shore-up any of Winter Moons shortcomings. And some cards will make Winter Moon appear even weaker than it is (particularly, it feels like land-destruction weakens the impact of Winter Moon, as it means that there are less lands the opponent is forced to have tapped. I'm probably wrong on that thought though).

Personally if I were trying to make a Winter Moon brew today, it would either be in a mono-white tax list with stuff like Leonin Arbiter and Archon of Emeria, or a mono-blue build with stuff like Ashiok, Dream Render and Vedalken Certarch... I haven't got any further in my own thought processes than that (i really think this card needs to know the meta its fighting to know how to fight it, so i'm waiting a few months for the post-mh3 meta to stabilize)... But I think however a Winter Moon deck is built, it has to cover for the cards shortcomings so that its actually reliably useful on-board.

wallisface on Sultai Lantern Control

5 months ago

As a long-time lantern player myself, I have some thoughts:

  • your only on-board interaction at the moment is the two copies of Drown in the Loch… this feels severely inadequate for cleaning up the board once your lock is in-place. I would be expecting stuff like Prismatic Ending or Abrupt Decay so you could hit a wider variety of answers, or Fatal Push so you could be more proactive. In any case having only 2 on-board interaction pieces feels too low. Added to that, Lantern never needs countermagic because you’re able to soo easily strip the opponents hand and then control their topdeck.

  • Emry, Lurker of the Loch validates your opponents cards too much imo (i.e it means their killspells aren’t dead-draws, so there’s less garbage they can topdeck). I’d ditch it.

  • In a format as fast as modern, there will be lots of instances where you need to get Ensnaring Bridge online asap. I don’t think Ashiok, Dream Render, being a 3-mana cards, helps with that. It’s a sideboard option at-best.

  • Ego Drain feels incredibly dangerous to yourself as far as limiting your own limited resources. You really need Thoughtseize

  • Scheming Symmetry only feels useful if you’re already ahead/winning. Though there’s possibly a few niche situations where it’s helpful, so maybe its fine.

  • you really need a copy of The Underworld Cookbook to deal with aggro and burn, while also ensuring nothing gets under Ensnaring Bridge.

nbarry223 on Shifty Crabs!

1 year ago

Well, if you were going a third color, the obvious choice is . Drown in the Loch is so powerful in a mill deck as a denial card, as it can counter a threat or be removal, and it scales, all for 2 mana. also has a lot of gravehate options, many of which gain life, so they help against both aggro and graveyard oriented decks, which may help to free up some slots in the sideboard, by consolidating your hate a bit.

Jace, the Perfected Mind is also a pretty powerful potential tool if able to be enabled, main enabler is usually Archive Trap (would suggest Field of Ruin if you went that route). Tasha's Hideous Laughter is another option if just going for the mill since most modern decks are very low curves.

I'm also a little surprised you don't have much in the way of gravehate in your sideboard. What do you do against decks where your mill strategy enables them? Bojuka Bog and Grafdigger's Cage just seem suboptimal. If removing threats already in the graveyard, I'd consider something like Surgical Extraction or Ashiok, Dream Render. If doing something preventative, replacement effects are the way to go instead of narrow denial strategies like Grafdigger's Cage since a lot of strategies like Living End get around it. Dauthi Voidwalker or Rest in Peace are the two main cards that come to mind. Honestly though, I think your best option in your current colors is Relic of Progenitus, since it lets you slowly chip away at graveyard strategies or is a cantrip that can be used in response to their graveyard strategy.

Mazera on Horrifying Nightmares

1 year ago

Hey! Made_Compleat I actually just got a Ashiok, Dream Render from my local store since they had the chibi secret lair version but wasn't exactly sure where to slot them till you said Runo Stromkirk  Flip being kind of iffy, I just slapped him in because I already had him and he sort of fit the bill but he'll get the replaced by this. I really like Chainer, Dementia Master but I proxied him just to test it out and he gets sacked almost immediately every time because my group noticed the drawback. Chainer's Torment was really cool; in the first draft of this deck I had that with Profane Transfusion to get 2 FAT horrors on the field but the mana cost was too much to really pull this combo off and decided against it. Thanks for the suggestions!

Made_Compleat on Horrifying Nightmares

1 year ago

Hey! I love this deck. A few suggestions:

Runo Stromkirk  Flip is a bit of a nonbo with Umbris, Fear Manifest, as he isn't a horror when he ETBs and doesn't exile when he transforms. Thus, he's won't ETB as a horror to get that sweet sweet value. He also doesn't really synergize with the horror tribal theme. Likewise, the Shapeshifters in the deck like Evil Twin don't synergize, as they're not horrors and don't have changeling. Dauthi Voidwalker runs into the same issue, but it is pretty good so I wouldn't cut it.

A funny card in the deck would be Chainer, Dementia Master. He creates nightmares from your opponent's yard, which then exile more cards with your commander. However, he does come with the drawback of exiling all Nightmares when he dies. He's still totally worth it, though. Angel of Suffering do be silly. She might not be the best, but she's just kinda funny in the deck. The same goes for Bitter Ordeal, which, like all cards from Future Sight, is just kinda nifty. Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver ain't a bad card in this context, nor is Ashiok, Sculptor of Fears. Nightmare weaver is better, but both are pretty good in this context. Ashiok, Dream Render is pretty deece as both a Stranglehold and a exile-based mill engine, and she also completes AshiokTron (tm). To compleat the "Not good, just funny" cycle, Chainer's Torment. Is it an absolutely awful card? Yes. Is it hilarious? YES. Phyrexian Rager is pretty nice as well.

I hope that you find these suggestions helpful!

wallisface on Lanter Control

1 year ago

Some thoughts:

  • you really need the full playset of Ensnaring Bridge to be able to reliably survive against an opponents attacks.

  • both Ashiok, Dream Render and Karn, the Great Creator feel out of place here. Ashiok is maybe a decent sideboard option, but i think Karn is just going to slow you down.

  • imo you need some lifegain outlet to not have an absolutely terrible matchup versus burn. I’ve found a single copy of The Underworld Cookbook work wonders for this in that it’s Saga-fetchable, and it also helps Ensnaring Bridge get online faster.

PhoenixClipz on The pioneer GOYF - A selfmill deck

1 year ago

Thank you for letting me know i plan on checking out some cards and replacing with some good ideas for it. I've had ideas for Old Stickfingers in the deck and maybe sideboarding Ashiok, Dream Render I'm definitely upgrading the land base to some more expensive lands and that should make the deck synergize a lot more I hope. Thank you so much for letting me know what best changes need to be made. I greatly appreciate your help. I cant wait to see your new decks for sure.

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