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Ruhan of the Fomori
Legendary Creature — Giant Warrior
At the beginning of combat on your turn, choose an opponent at random. Ruhan of the Fomori attacks that player this combat if able.
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10 months ago
I find green an ever-increasingly boring color, but a Green-White lawmage at least makes sense. Ir seems kind of awful and a bit lawless; so probably not the best place for a lawmage to end up.
1 year ago
As for potential alternate commanders, here are what I would recommend. My goal here isn't to necessarily power up your deck, but that would likely happen if you choose someone other than Brion. The addition of other colors can add versatility as well as variety--potentially leading to more fun. I feel like being able to play any giant (or at least more giants) would make for a truer giant-tribal experience and allow the deck to grow better as new sets and new giants come out. Also, when you're on a budget the addition to other colors will allow you to play better creatures and better utility without having to scrape the bottom of the barrel in Boros colors.
Going for all five colors would allow you to play any giant across Magic's rich history and allow any utility card you could possibly want. This would be the best choice as you continue to play, as any upgrades or new giants could fit in the deck. Don't be intimidated by the mana base; five-color is easy on a budget.
Morophon, the Boundless - It's a giant! Technically. The anthem is cute and the mana discount is enormous. One of the best options for Giant Tribal. I have one for trade!! Highly highly highly recommended
Golos, Tireless Pilgrim - Truly obscene power. He ramps when you cast him (making his commander tax kind of one mana instead of two!) and his ability to play three cards off the top of the deck is nothing short of perfect for a mana-expensive deck like Giant Tribal. Cannot recommend enough.
Kenrith, the Returned King - Another incredibly strong choice. He can give you trample and haste--both things big slow giants want. He can grow your team, he can draw cards, and he can bring back the expensive giants from the graveyard. The lifegain can be good too! A top-tier choice.
The addition of alone would both power up the deck and make it run smoother without having to invest in expensive cards. There are a bunch of great Giants in green on a budget and it seems that WotC is making more and more Green giants in modern times, compared to the old days, making it a safe choice when it comes to future additions.
Mayael the Anima - A fantastic and strong choice. Naya colors and a strong mana-sink for when your hand is empty. Having expensive giants is perfect for her ability! A top-notch choice. Highly recommended. Mayael's Aria is a fun card!
Atla Palani, Nest Tender - Hatch giants out of eggs! A really great way to cheat on mana costs. A pretty good choice and a funny one. I have one for trade.
Samut, Voice of Dissent - Granting haste to your team and being able to surprise-untap a giant to block an attack is pretty good utility. A good--but not excellent--choice.
Marisi, Breaker of the Coil - A decent choice. Goading opponents' creatures would allow your own giants to swing in with impunity. I have one for trade.
Gahiji, Honored One - An all-right choice. The ability powers up our team and incentivizes your opponents to attack each other. It's a giant beast, for what it's worth.
I'm not sure why one would want to run four colors when one could easily run all five, but there are two very interesting choices for generals in the Blue-less combination. Personally I find the Blue giants better than the Black giants though. None of the options for Black-less are any good for Giant Tribal.
Saskia the Unyielding - Her ability is no joke when it comes to smashing face. A good choice, but we can probably do better.
Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder and Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper - Now THIS is an interesting commander combo. Make a sort of loose lifegain theme around Giant Tribal. If you want to have a truly unique take on Giant Tribal that nobody has ever seen, this may be the way. I have Ikra Shidiqi for trade, but not Bruse.
I would highly recommend running Morophon, the Boundless or Mayael the Anima as your general, with Golos, Tireless Pilgrim and Kenrith, the Returned King being equally as good--if not better (mechanically). You'll get to play more giants, better giants, and ramp into them easier--all while still staying on a budget. Also, these commanders actually facilitate giant tribal and a concept.
1 year ago
It looks like the spoilers that I put the non-Boros giant suggestions aren't working. So weird. I'll try to reconstruct what I suggested.
So I know you had your heart set on Brion as your commander, but I wanted to list all the good giants with , and in their colors, as there are a bunch that are excellent. Brion doesn't bring much to the giant-tribal table other than a small-ish lifelinking Giant body and occasional face-damage. You may want to use Iroas, God of Victory or Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas as your commander if you're dead-set on staying Boros colors. If the idea of fully exploring Giants in Magic's history is the goal, and being the most Giant-y deck, having more colors or all five colors will give you a greater creature spread and significantly help with the deck's function.
Arbor Colossus - great rate! Worth considering
Beanstalk Giant - ramp AND a giant body! Worth considering
Earthshaker Giant - Worth considering
Garenbrig Paladin - playable, but probably wouldn't make the cut in a five-color deck
Gorm the Great - interesting choice, and nice at four mana, but probably not worth a slot
Marshdrinker Giant - odd removal piece.
Nylea's Colossus - good effect even without a ton of enchantment support. Worth considering
Outland Colossus - Worth considering
Rampart Smasher - watch out, Knights! Probably wouldn't make the cut
Skyshroud Troll - Regeneration is always nice, but the stats aren't great
Sunder Shaman - fucking awesome giant. One of the best reasons to consider running Green cards. Can't recommend enough.
Swarmborn Giant - kinda a weird one, but interesting nonetheless
Towering Titan - potentially awesome! Worth considering
Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath - fucking incredible. Pretend you're terrorizing standard! That pricetag though :(
Valleymaker - very interesting utility. Potentially worth considering, but might not make the cut in a five-color deck.
Yorvo, Lord of Garenbrig - Absolutely stellar Giant. three on-color might be hard to swing in a five-color deck, although any deck would probably lean Green due to ramp and utility. Very much worth considering.
Galecaster Colossus - extremely strong Giant. better in Wizard-tribal decks, but is still really good on its own.
Oloro, Ageless Ascetic - A real powerhouse. Highly recommended
Ruhan of the Fomori - Another excellent giant. Highly recommended
Skaab Goliath - Pretty decent. Might not make the cut in 5-color but worth considering]
Thryx, the Sudden Storm - Incredible! Ramp AND a flying body. A perfect reason to run Blue. Highly recommended
Bartel Runeaxe - this is a giant. Probably only worth running for the memes. Expensive too. A piece of Giant Magic history though.
Doomwake Giant - Pretty decent even without Enchantment support--lots of one-toughness support creatures out there.
Erebos's Titan - slightly recursive threat. Decent
Grave Titan - an utter powerhouse. One of the best giants. Highly recommended
Grixis Slavedriver - decent for a common. Probably not quite worth a slot.
Helldozer - pretty good! Three on-color might be hard but the payoff is huuuge.
Knight of the Last Breath - leaving behind blockers is pretty good. (Mana)-expensive though.
Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger - Pretend you're terrorizing Standard!! Incredible Giant, but expensive.
Necrosavant - recursive creature, but you probably don't want to be sacrificing giants
Nightfire Giant - could be decent utility. Not the strongest giant but worth looking at
Tithebearer Giant - good for a common I suppose!
So as you can see, there are a bunch of fantastic Giants outside of Red and White colors. The stand-outs on a budget are:
1 year ago
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If you did want to use a different commander for more colors, here are the ones I would recommend:
I love the idea of being able to include any Giant that you want. Budget five-color mana bases are easy.
Morophon, the Boundless - probably the best pick? It gives a substantial discount and is technically a Giant itself. The anthem tacked on is just gravy. I have one for trade!
Golos, Tireless Pilgrim - a bit of ramp, plus his ability is just fucking nuts. Absolutely outrageous. Spewing out giants! An outstanding commander through-and-through.
Kenrith, the Returned King - Grants haste, can bring back dead giants, can grow your army, draws cards. He does everything except be a giant himself. Another outstanding general.
Jodah, Archmage Eternal - Most Jodah decks focus on extremely expensive creatures and spells, so his ability might not be too hot for Giant Tribal. He would work though. Outclassed for sure.
Jegantha, the Wellspring - A bit of ramp in the command zone. Outclassed by the rest, but it IS a giant elk...
Naya colors get you Green, which will add some very good giants and significantly improve your options for ramp, utility, and card-draw. By like, a ton.
Samut, Voice of Dissent - grants Haste, which is dope. The untapping ability can surprise opponents maybe. Not a giant though.
Gahiji, Honored One - Looks like a giant beast, for what it's worth. Boosts your attacks and may even take some heat off of you. A mediocre choice, but not awful.
Marisi, Breaker of the Coil - some good general value. Would make attacking easier due to taking away blockers. Nothing outstanding though.
Atla Palani, Nest Tender - Hatch giants out of eggs!
Other color combinations:
Saskia the Unyielding - Not sure why you'd want to run four colors when you could do all five, but her ability is no joke. Personally I prefer the Blue giants to the Black ones, but Black has some of the best utility and card-draw in the game.
Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder + Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper - want to run most of the giants and have M A X I M U M life-gain? This pair would make for a profoundly distinct Giant Tribal. A truly unique take. Might be lots of fun! You could even try to squeeze in Felidar Sovereign and Test of Endurance for a laugh; certainly not necessary though.
Ruhan of the Fomori - No Green, but he's a giant himself and Blue utility is as good as any. A decent choice, but if you're stepping out of Boros you may as well run Green cards.
The stand-outs to me are Golos, Tireless Pilgrim - Morophon, the Boundless - Kenrith, the Returned King - Mayael the Anima - Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder + Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper. These are all extremely strong choices.
Here's some of the fantastic Utility cards that you would gain by stepping into other colors (I'll try to list budget cards):
Rhythm of the Wild - Garruk's Uprising! - Elemental Bond - Colossal Majesty - Beast Within - Temur Ascendancy - Nylea, Keen-Eyed - Nylea, God of the Hunt - Primal Rage - Brawn - Heroic Intervention - Golgari Charm - Wrap in Vigor - Return of the Wildspeaker - Soul's Majesty - Rishkar's Expertise - Sylvan Reclamation - Decimate - Genesis Ultimatum - Eerie Ultimatum - Ruinous Ultimatum - Despark - Descendants' Path - Clever Impersonator - Cyclonic Rift - Call to the Kindred - Swan Song - Greed - Casualties of War
Then there is Green's superior mana ramp. Cultivate - Kodama's Reach - Migration Path - Vastwood Surge - Ranger's Path - Nature's Lore - Rampant Growth - Deathsprout -Traverse the Outlands - Boundless Realms... the list goes on.
As you can see, there's a lot there that Red and White just can't even touch. Green is basically the best color in EDH, especially for big-creature decks. Very much worth considering, even if you're trying to keep the deck casual.
1 year ago
Some more giants that are worth considering:
Kalemne, Disciple of Iroas - Kalemne is bae, but I'm biased.
Realm-Cloaked Giant - this card is mandatory.
Quarry Colossus - this one is passable.
Grasping Giant - I love this one--just put it in my Giant deck
Oathsworn Giant - Good utility if you are wanting to swing out every turn
Swathcutter Giant - I actually kinda like this one a lot.
Taurean Mauler - one of the best giants, sadly
Bonecrusher Giant - pretend you're terrorizing Standard!
Arbiter of Knollridge - gimmicky but fun.
Boldwyr Intimidator - I have one in my Warrior deck. Very funny card. Not exactly a powerhouse at 7CMC but the unblockable aspect could win a game here and there.
Siegebreaker Giant - Pretty good for 5 mana IMO
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Beanstalk Giant - Ramp AND a giant body
Thryx, the Sudden Storm - Ramp and a giant FLYING body!
Outland Colossus - great rate
Arbor Colossus - great rate
Helldozer is pretty good, but three on-color is often difficult to do in a five-color deck
Yorvo, Lord of Garenbrig - Three on-color is difficult in three- and five-color decks, but most would skew Green for the utility and ramp cards so it wouldn't be impossible.
Galecaster Colossus - good even by itself
Erebos's Titan - a weird one!
Jotun Owl Keeper - another weird one!
One thing that's tricky with Giants is that they are traditionally commons and uncommons; usually rare large red creatures are Dragons. As such, many giants are pretty low-impact or poor deals for their mana (think of the classic Hill Giant). There are enough good ones to fill out a deck, though, but you gotta hunt for them.
2 years ago
Dude those dragons are doing so well (when no one wipes them)!
Did you want a similar deck? 'Cuz that's what you've got here... but I think you should lean into go-wide-aggro > midrange and play more 1-2 cmc creatures and move all your ramp to 2 (Rampant Growth, signets, etc).
Rhys the Redeemed... he's getting a reprint
Gutterbones... reusable 1-drops
Norin the Wary... free 1/1s or ETB triggers
Mist-Cloaked Herald... anything that can't be blocked
Graveblade Marauder... anything <4 with deathtouch
Alpine Houndmaster... going wide?
Malakir Cullblade... grower not a shower
Tribal decks have so much flavor! Hope this helps, maybe we'll see it next weekend? :o
2 years ago
In fact, it looks like no one is using him to punish people in combat. I didn't think about Jeskai builds, but Ruhan of the Fomori and Pramikon, Sky Rampart. The way I see it, red is an absolute necessity for Grand Melee effects, after that, combat needs directing with blue and white rattlesnake and Ghostly Prison effects, green combat math effects, and black death-trigger/mass reanimation effects.
2 years ago
To preface, chaos decks in general draw a lot of ire, especially when it is chaos for chaos's sake with no direction toward victory. I personally have no issue with the chaos style, though resolving a Warp World or Scrambleverse is definitely a chore haha. Anyway it looks like you aren't going for anything too egregious here, so you should be fine in the eyes of your opponents. Even so, I might describe the deck as "unique/oddball effects" rather than "chaos" just so opponents don't get the wrong idea and try to eliminate you first because they think your goal is Hive Mind + Undying Flames lol.
As far as the general, have you considered Arjun, the Shifting Flame ? He makes it so that every time you cast a spell, you get a new hand. Pretty chaotic if you ask me! You could fill the deck with unusual effects (like you've done here with Jhoira) so that neither you nor your opponents will know whats coming next. Tasigur, the Golden Fang could be an interesting general as well, since the fact that an opponent chooses the card you get makes it both chaotic and interactive. Ruhan of the Fomori and Atla Palani, Nest Tender are pretty chaotic as well.
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