Gisa and Geralf

Gisa and Geralf

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard

When this enters the battlefield, mill four cards. (Put the top four cards of your library into your graveyard.)

During each of your turns, you may cast a Zombie creature card from your graveyard.

Gisa and Geralf Discussion

ActionReplay on Zombies Wilhelt base

1 month ago

I am pretty new to working with Wilhelt, but I have made one of my own and was looking at what cards people put into theirs. I liked Grimoire of the Dead and Call to the Grave and may use them in my deck. I was wondering why you have some cards like Dread Shade or Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon. They are not zombies nor do they seem to synergize with your deck. Perhaps you could replace them with Gisa and Geralf,Ravenous Rotbelly or something else that synergizes with your deck. Lastly, I noticed you seen to have a decent amount of sacrifice in your deck have you considered adding cards like Dictate of Erebos, Ruthless Deathfang, or Butcher of Malakir. Hope things work out with your deck and that you have fun with it. Wilhelt has been a lot of fun for me so far and I hope you are having fun with it too.

Lord_of_Cardboard on Edgar Markov

3 months ago

Thanks! A couple of my buddies started running The Locust God , Gisa and Geralf and Obuun, Mul Daya Ancestor so coat of arms is not really a option so vampires is kinda out the window.

DawnsRayofLight on And The Dead Keep It, The Way Is Shut

4 months ago

I might consider going flat out zombies for this list. mono White, mono blue Urza, green white, or bant tend to do tax lists a bit better. I get the reasoning with rooftop storm, but it isn't enough.

If you want to do zombies, U/B is great because you have 3 solid generals to choose from between Grimgrin, Corpse-Born, Gisa and Geralf, and Wilhelt, the Rotcleaver

If you want to focus on Stax, maybe look into Urza, Lord High Artificer, Derevi, Empyrial Tactician, Hokori, Dust Drinker, Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker, Yasharn, Implacable Earth, Sigarda, Host of Herons, etc. All make great Stax commanders and have easier colors to work around the orb and tax effects (Opposition, Glare of Subdual, Seedborn Muse, Urza, Lord High Artificer, etc). Black can allow for reanimation for smokestack and the like white also has the potential along with plenty of ways to generate tokens.

You can do whatever you feel like, it is certainly your list, I just wanted to maybe offer the advice that this list is trying to do too much which keeps it from doing either of its game plans effectively. I speak from experience trying to make a Naya list that could be stompy and run tokens which didn't work well.

KBK7101 on The precon question

4 months ago

Undead Unleashed has lots of great synergy, a handful of great reprints and has really good value all around. Wilhelt, the Rotcleaver is one of the best zombie commanders ever printed. The back-up commander, Eloise, Nephalia Sleuth is cool but requires a much different approach. The reprint commander, Gisa and Geralf is a much better "back-up commander" in this sense as they're more synergistic with the zombie theme.

Coven Counters is a bit clunky, from my experience. Like, all the pieces work together really well in theory, but it doesn't seem to work quite as well in game. The back-up commander for this deck, Kyler, Sigardian Emissary is incredible and is easily the best commander in this deck. He is a bit of a removal magnet, though, and would need a lot more protection if you decide to build around him.

Vampiric Bloodline is a bit similar to the zombie one. Some great reprints, good all around value and lots of synergy but I haven't actually played games with the VOW ones, sadly. The VOW decks also replace the back-up commander with a pair of partners, which is cool.

Spirit Squadron is a bit more complicated than the other ones. It runs pretty well, it's just that the deck has a lot more going on than the others. Like, the vampire one, the back-up commander is a pair of partners, which I love. Partner is a really cool mechanic. Again, haven't played games with these last two.

Overall? I'd probably recommend the one as the best all-around deck, being second, and and coming in after that.

For a new player, I'd recommend looking at the commanders that each deck has and picking out whichever deck has commanders/themes that interest you the most. Big zombie fan? Grab the zombie one. Love vampires? Get the vampire one. You'll be much more interested in the decks if the decks interest you, know what I mean?

Hope this helps!

bushido_man96 on Help optimizing my Wilhelt Precon

5 months ago

I've got a combo based Gisa and Geralf deck that might offer you some ideas:


Commander / EDH bushido_man96


LinkOpensChest_wav on When there's no more room in Hell.....

5 months ago

I love your alter of Gisa and Geralf, flavor is on point, and I wanted to thank you for sharing this decklist since my zombie deck is currently my favorite deck to tinker with and to play.

bisounours on Wilhelt and his graveyard

5 months ago

The deck tries to be fast. More manas (and stones), creatures and draw. Limited counter spells and control.

it has the nice combos for infinite life loss, any of the following combination, depending on what’s on your board Ashnod's Altar + Diregraf Captain + Gravecrawler or alternatively, you can use Phyrexian Altar Diregraf Captain + Gravecrawler + Phyrexian Altar

You can adapt this combo with other cards than the Diregraf Captain. For example with:

Champion of the Perished or Carrion Feeder for an infinite strength creature

Vengeful Dead or Plague Belcher for infinite life loss

Tormod, the Desecrator or Headless Rider for infinite zombie tokens

If you don’t have the Gravecrawler on the board you may run these combos with nice zombies having LTB or ETB capacities but then you need a card with the sacrifice capacity like Carrion Feeder and a card to play it back from your graveyard such as Havengul Lich or Gisa and Geralf. Let’s take the Gray Merchant of Asphodel for example:

Gray Merchant of Asphodel + Ashnod's Altar + Havengul Lich + Rooftop Storm for infinite life loss, infinite life gain. you can either use Ashnod's Altar or Phyrexian Altar depending on what's on your board.

Enchantments like Dictate of Erebos or Necroduality or The Meathook Massacre just make things worst.

Finally, I thought it could be nice to give some additional features to our Zombies such as flying with Geralf, Visionary Stitcher or Eldrazi Monument

Dangerwillrobinson79 on Wilhelt Zombie Army

5 months ago

Cool build. Consider adding in Gisa and Geralf to fill the yard and recur. I frequently end the game with gray merchant by comboing him with Rite of Replication.

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