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Gisa and Geralf
Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
When Gisa and Geralf enters the battlefield, mill four cards. (Put the top four cards of your library into your graveyard.)
During each of your turns, you may cast a Zombie creature card from your graveyard.
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3 weeks ago
First game of the year. I'll probably be playing Giada less now as I think the list is pretty optimized at this point.
Starting hand wasn't great as I would need to draw a land to curve out but I had 2 draw cards in hand so I figured it was worth it. Luckily the table was playing pretty slow and I drew into some ramp.
Arvinox played 3 separate sacrifice cards where I sacced my Angel tokens and dumped the +1/+1 counters onto The Ozolith to pump up my next swings. They were able to get a Bolas's Citadel out quite early but due to the constant beatdown from my Angels couldn't explode like normal.
Sigarda tried to get through my Angel wall but I always chumped blocked to protect my Monarch token. Late in the game they used a Day of Judgment but at that time I had Breathkeeper Seraph soulbonded to Giada and a bunch of Angel tokens so I let it resolve. I had a foretold Cosmic Intervention since the early game but I was maintaining so much threat with my tokens and Ozolith that I never needed to use it.
Unfortunately Gisa durdled the whole game as they were also hit by Arvinox's sacrifice cards and Sigarda's board wipe so could never really get off the ground.
I ended the game with 89 life and Giada as a 40/40 with 36 +1/+1 counters and 2 anthems.
The Ozolith like most of our 1-drops, can change the makeup of the game quite heavily from the start if we drop it T1. I've had it in a few games before but usually only drew into it mid to late game where its impact is not as great.
Court of Grace I think was in your deck before as it was mine but ended up getting pulled in favor of other cards. Now that I've had a few more games with it I think it's provides too much synergy to leave out.
I think the lifegain strategy as whole is niche and our payoffs aren't really worth it to build an entire package around. I still got to 89 life this game due to just 2 cards - Bishop of Wings and a late game Pyre of Heroes on Serra Paragon for a Lyra Dawnbringer that was essentially a win-more move rather than strategic. I know you love your soul sisters but I think in your next few games you might want to take another look at their performance. Well of Lost Dreams was kind of on your chopping block before and I think it's time to revisit that card as well.
4 months ago
Ayara, First of Locthwain - ETB payoff, sac outlet, card draw. Only drawback is that it's not a Zombie.
Blood Artist - Death trigger payoff. Borderline include for me in this build.
Cemetery Reaper - Zombie Lord, token creator, graveyard hate
Cryptbreaker - Discard outlet, token creator, draw engine
Death Baron - Zombie Lord, deathtouch to discourage attackers
Diregraf Captain - Zombie Lord, death trigger payoff
Diregraf Colossus - Token creator
Ghoulcaller Gisa - Token creator, sac outlet
Gisa and Geralf - Graveyard love, reanimation source. Borderline include here IMO due to TSG's ability
Gleaming Overseer - Token, hexproof and menace for tokens. Borderline include IMO
God-Eternal Bontu - sac outlet, card draw, big body
Grave Titan - token creator, star of many MTG Memes...yes, I like him
Graveborn Muse - card draw and life loss is NOT optional. Don't kill yourself!!
Gravecrawler - automatic include in any Zombie build. Begging to go infinite in a number of ways
5 months ago
Hey, well done so far upgrading the precon, nice Phyrexian Altar.
Some cards from the precon to consider adding:
- Talisman of Dominance --> Sky Diamond
- Dreadhorde Invasion --> Eternal Skylord
- Curse of the Restless Dead --> Undead Alchemist
- Pact of the Serpent --> Battle at the Bridge
- Zombie Apocalypse --> Dread Summons
- Gisa and Geralf --> Ebondeath, Dracolich
- Feed the Swarm --> Polymorphist's Jest
- Liliana, Death's Majesty --> Liliana's Mastery
- Tainted Isle --> 1x Island
- Choked Estuary --> 1x Island
Talisman of Dominance ETB untapped to make either color. Another mana rock upgrade is Dimir Signet replacing Charcoal Diamond. Dreadhorde Invasion is a repeatable source of Zombie and Eternal Skylord is a much worse Hordewing Skaab. Curse of the Restless Dead is a more reliable repeatable source of Zombies than Undead Alchemist.
Pact of the Serpent is powerful tribal card for Zombies. Battle at the Bridge needs lots more artifacts to be playable. Zombie Apocalypse is powerful tribal card for Zombies especially when your Commander sacs Zombies to draw. Patriarch's Bidding is another mass reanimation tribal Zombie card. Dread Summons needs a ton of mana paid into it to be decent since you have no control over milling your own or opponent creatures.
Gisa and Geralf can be repeatable cast of Zombies from your graveyard which can do more than Ebondeath, Dracolich. Feed the Swarm is helpful to have enchantment removal in Dimir. Liliana, Death's Majesty can be repeatable Zombies and her other abilities are good too. She does more than Liliana's Mastery, but honestly you don't need either one of these cards since there's better five drops here or could add.
The more basic Islands you can replace with Dimir dual lands the better the manabase will be because black mana is much important than blue. Lots of basic Islands makes it more difficult to cast heavy black spells. Tainted Isle and Choked Estuary are playable lands in the precon that care about Swamps and you have a lot of Swamps.
Good luck with your deck.
9 months ago
I am pretty new to working with Wilhelt, but I have made one of my own and was looking at what cards people put into theirs. I liked Grimoire of the Dead and Call to the Grave and may use them in my deck. I was wondering why you have some cards like Dread Shade or Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon. They are not zombies nor do they seem to synergize with your deck. Perhaps you could replace them with Gisa and Geralf,Ravenous Rotbelly or something else that synergizes with your deck. Lastly, I noticed you seen to have a decent amount of sacrifice in your deck have you considered adding cards like Dictate of Erebos, Ruthless Deathfang, or Butcher of Malakir. Hope things work out with your deck and that you have fun with it. Wilhelt has been a lot of fun for me so far and I hope you are having fun with it too.
11 months ago
1 year ago
I might consider going flat out zombies for this list. mono White, mono blue Urza, green white, or bant tend to do tax lists a bit better. I get the reasoning with rooftop storm, but it isn't enough.
If you want to focus on Stax, maybe look into Urza, Lord High Artificer, Derevi, Empyrial Tactician, Hokori, Dust Drinker, Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker, Yasharn, Implacable Earth, Sigarda, Host of Herons, etc. All make great Stax commanders and have easier colors to work around the orb and tax effects (Opposition, Glare of Subdual, Seedborn Muse, Urza, Lord High Artificer, etc). Black can allow for reanimation for smokestack and the like white also has the potential along with plenty of ways to generate tokens.
You can do whatever you feel like, it is certainly your list, I just wanted to maybe offer the advice that this list is trying to do too much which keeps it from doing either of its game plans effectively. I speak from experience trying to make a Naya list that could be stompy and run tokens which didn't work well.
1 year ago
Undead Unleashed has lots of great synergy, a handful of great reprints and has really good value all around. Wilhelt, the Rotcleaver is one of the best zombie commanders ever printed. The back-up commander, Eloise, Nephalia Sleuth is cool but requires a much different approach. The reprint commander, Gisa and Geralf is a much better "back-up commander" in this sense as they're more synergistic with the zombie theme.
Coven Counters is a bit clunky, from my experience. Like, all the pieces work together really well in theory, but it doesn't seem to work quite as well in game. The back-up commander for this deck, Kyler, Sigardian Emissary is incredible and is easily the best commander in this deck. He is a bit of a removal magnet, though, and would need a lot more protection if you decide to build around him.
Vampiric Bloodline is a bit similar to the zombie one. Some great reprints, good all around value and lots of synergy but I haven't actually played games with the VOW ones, sadly. The VOW decks also replace the back-up commander with a pair of partners, which is cool.
Spirit Squadron is a bit more complicated than the other ones. It runs pretty well, it's just that the deck has a lot more going on than the others. Like, the vampire one, the back-up commander is a pair of partners, which I love. Partner is a really cool mechanic. Again, haven't played games with these last two.
Overall? I'd probably recommend the one as the best all-around deck, being second, and and coming in after that.
For a new player, I'd recommend looking at the commanders that each deck has and picking out whichever deck has commanders/themes that interest you the most. Big zombie fan? Grab the zombie one. Love vampires? Get the vampire one. You'll be much more interested in the decks if the decks interest you, know what I mean?
Hope this helps!
1 year ago
I've got a combo based Gisa and Geralf deck that might offer you some ideas:
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