Undermine

Undermine

Instant

Counter target spell. Its controller loses 3 life.

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Undermine Discussion

firefalcon51 on Zombies, they're in my head.

2 months ago

Hardhitta7, Carrion Feeder Seems like a great sac outlet for a lot of the deck. Definitely going to find a slot for it. Also the deck certainly can be made more efficient with better removal and lands etc. I just like the flavor of cards like Go for the Throat and Undermine / Countersquall .

mateob27 on Sygg River Cutthroat (CMDR) v1.06

3 months ago

Thanks Grind for your suggestions ill add Negate , and Disallow I needed a bit more counters, Drown in the Loch and Undermine are staying they are really good with the deck

Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor on Sharp hugs

10 months ago

Hi there,

I used to run a Sygg deck myself a few years back. Ninja's are a fine route to go, but the most important things that I discovered was how hard it was getting Sygg to trigger on opponents turns and the necessity to be able to withstand some table hate. Some cards that I found to be quite powerful in my old deck were:

Illusionist's Gambit - Such an underrated card which can save you in a pinch and force a Sygg trigger

Dulcet Sirens - Can force someone into attacking with the benefit you getting to chose whom they attack

Pestilence - A lot of times people will incidentally lose 1-2 life during their turn due to fetch or shock lands. Pestilence lets you get that 1-2 extra damage needed to trigger Sygg

Undermine - Counter anything and then draw a card

Any of Dauthi Embrace/Whispersilk Cloak/Key to the City/Keeper of Keys - Giving unblockable to whoever needs it

Smuggler's Copter - Flying 3/3 that loots and can be crewed by just about any creature

Some new cards that came out after my build that could find a home in Sygg are:

Loyal Subordinate - 3 guaranteed damage on your turn with Sygg out.

Rankle, Master of Pranks - It has 3 power, it flies, and you can always come out ahead with his discard ability if Sygg is on the battlefield. Oh, and he is basically a legal Braids, Cabal Minion

DemonDragonJ on Double Masters

1 year ago

Why does the promo version of Mana Crypt have flavor text when the regular version does not?

I know that they are not likely to be reprinted in this set, but I would like to see both Undermine and Recoil reprinted, to keep them available and inexpensive, since Absorb was reprinted, recently.

Chromatic Lantern would be another nice reprint, to keep its price low and its availability high.

ShreddedByCrows on Surrakar tribal challenge

1 year ago

Cool concept, even if it's pretty hard to match. A bit of an easy take on your theme, but why don't you play some Shapeshifters as a way to have more Surrakar? Tribal cards also could help.

As Surrakars' living places are mostly wild forests and underground rivers, there's a lot to do with that without having to back up only on the Zendikar's expansions.

1.) River cards:

  • River of Tears not the best land you could find, but fits in there

  • Underground River certainly an essential

  • Bad River cheap fetchland fitting the theme

  • Rushing River great removal, really underplayed, fits the theme / you can try something revolving around self land destruction if you decide to give it a try (Crop Rotation, Crucible of Worlds, Wasteland, etc.)

  • River Kelpie interesting creature, which design feels otherworldly and weird, according to the Surrakars /n needs a graveyard gameplan to be effective, and that will seem fine (obvious synergy is [card:Cauldron of Souls] and it's a playable card in there) / pretty good interactions with Yarok / card draw

  • Carpet of Flowers staple in lots of decks for mana production, depends on your playgroup though

  • Dire Undercurrents excellent synergies with Yarok, enabling your creatures without etb-abilities to be more effective / card draw, card advantage

  • Undermine weird counterspell, not really that good, not bad either / illustration matches with the theme

2.) Cave cards:

3.) Cloning your Surrakars cards:

  • Mirror of the Forebears not the most flavourful one, but gives you a cheap way to get more Surrakars so it deserves being at least mentioned

  • Fated Infatuation same comment as for the Mirror, with the advantage of the more abstract card name / waterpoint in the illustration

  • Mimic Vat classic card, not the most flavourful

  • Wall of Stolen Identity more of a Ravnica-themed card, but worth mentioning

  • Phantasmal Image if you can alter a bit the card's image, it could be some Surrakar there / otherwise, it's a good card, and the illustration is strange enough to not injure your theme-deck-style imo

  • Metamorphic Alteration also a nice one

  • Mirror Image not as good as the others, still a wildish illustration style according well with Surrakars

  • Unstable Shapeshifter funny card, a quality+ illustration

  • Bramble Sovereign Surrakars also living in the Guum Wilds/Tangled Vale, this one feels really good / has some interactions with Yarok

  • Rite of Replication Zendikar-themed, water-themed, excellent card, good interactions with Yarok

  • Supplant Form let's just assume for a while that this is Surrakar's magic lel

  • Dual Nature yeh it is slow, but it is strong / interactions with Yarok

4.) Tribal outlet:

5.) Yarok outlet

6.) Other cards

I hope you'll find something helpful amongst those suggestions, keep on brewing and thanks for sharing it!

Ziabo on Thousand-Year Kess

1 year ago

Jace_Nalaar

Sorry it's been a minute but finally getting around to physically upgrading this deck.

I appreciate all of your imput and please don't think it's gone unnoted Here is the list I currently have for replacements

Manalith - Arcane Signet Think this would just work better IMO

Crumbling Necropolis - Coalition Relic ^

Fetch - Temple of the False God Think this would be better due to having more mana rocks.

Fetch - Izzet Boilerworks - ^

Dissipate - Swan Song - You're right.

Rewind - Muddle the Mixture - You're right.

Undermine - Disallow - Looks better

Liliana - Narset, Parter of Veils - Idk about this but will give it a shot

Comet Storm - Anger of the Gods - Better removal

X - Finale of Promise - Idk what to sub...

Dreadbore - Fire Covenant - Better removal

Fabricate - Demonic Tutor - Duh lol

Toxic Deluge - Black Sun's Zenith - Life's a resource yeah?

Rakdos Signet - Fellwar Stone - Easier Filter Ramp

X - Lightning Greaves - Kessy Likes to draw attention to herself...

Basic- Talisman of Dominance

Basic - Talisman of Indulgence

X - Past in Flames

Basic - Commander's Sphere

I know you've spent a lot of time in your previous suggestions, and I really appreciate the effort man Honestly. Would you mind taking a look at what I've come up with and see if there's any room for the X's?

About to put an order in for an upgrade on this. Kessy is going to be my first cEDH deck I wanna upgrade.

The Budget has been increased but still things like Mana Drain, Yawgmoth's Will and stupidly priced cards like that are still a no go for obvious reasons lol.

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