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Turnabout + Reiterate (Buyback), tap all lands, allow Reiterate to resolve and then cast Reiterate again. Don't let Turnabout resolve off the stack to make infinite mana. 4 Mizzix of the Izmagnus Experience pays for the on Turnabout and the + = on Reiterate and Buyback. Total cost + anything your lands produce over that generates the infinite mana. Comet Storm with multikicker. All cards are excellent on their own.
Capsize isn't an spell, but it can return all permanents in a infinite mana, or lots of permanents in a nearly infinite mana scenario, even if it doesn't kill them, it severely sets them back. Add Guttersnipe or Talrand, Sky Summoner to make it uncomfortable for them.
Epic Experiment always nice, but with so many counter spells, and multiple return creatures probably isn't the right spell for you, unless your counterspell/return creature mix changes.
Silver Myr + Iron Myr could be Mana Crypt and Chrome Mox or Mana Vault. Don't like Darksteel Ingot, 3 mana for 1 is bad conversion. But the Myr have summoning sickness, and get wiped out by Timmy easily.
April 28, 2017 2:15 p.m.
I know she gets threat, but show me another $50 Tier 3 commander (take of eh Rasputin Dreamweaver).
Caveat: Probably a better argument for Melek, Izzet Paragon to be Tier 3.
April 26, 2017 9:35 p.m.
I like Comet Storm because it is Instant speed, and can be used defensively as well, like 1/1 flying thopter defense on occasion.
Thanks for the comments on my deck, still figuring Izzet out, but learning and working on understanding how it works.
April 25, 2017 9:40 a.m.
Hi xSHAMUSx, Contagion Engine is respectable, the -1/-1 is nice for defense. The proliferate 2 is nice. The main reason I don't play it is the CMC6 and the Activate 4. If I have 10 mana at my disposal, I should already have enough Experience and have pulled a combo. CMC10 is just too slow and too steep a cost for me.
Izzet has a tough time pulling creatures, ie: Arjun, the Shifting Flame.
Some recommendations might be:
Blue Sun's Zenith, Brain Freeze, Stroke of Genius, Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur, Jushi Apprentice, Enter the Infinite + Laboratory Maniac, Show and Tell + Omniscience, Arcanis the Omnipotent, Ambassador Laquatus, Grindclock, Millstone, Mind's Eye, Beacon of Tomorrows, Windfall, Wheel of Fortune, Reforge the Soul, Jace, Memory Adept, Memory Erosion, Dreamborn Muse, Jace's Archivist, Altar of Dementia + Glen Elendra Archmage + Sage of Fables, Altar of the Brood, Keening Stone, Mesmeric Orb, Mindcrank, Increasing Confusion, Tunnel Vision + Jace, the Mind Sculptor (Using his +2).
Would have to put together a preliminary build. Would need 1) Some way to survive since you'll pull threat from at least one player 2) Some way to go fast, cheap mana rocks etc to push into the big creatures.
Sorry if I duplicated any there, a couple good combos in there.
I should warn you though, in 4 player commander, it may be tough to mill all 3 opponents, you could do it, but may not be consistent. I think has better mill/control because of the .
April 24, 2017 10:34 p.m.
Hey etheraldreamer, Inexorable Tide is excellent, see where your going there. The reason I don't run it is simply its CMC 5, I'm hoping to already be setup with Mizzix of the Izmagnus around there. Longer term you'll get more value playing a Inexorable Tide.
Austin_Smith_of_Cards, excellent suggestions. Lava Spike + Desperate Ritual + Izzet Guildmage is an excellent kill combo. Adding it to my description above. The only part I don't like is that the Lava Spike, standalone it's not that great. Desperate Ritual although a little under powered, is still borderline playable card. Usually I prefer combos where each card is okay on it's own, but not always, see Pili-Pala.
Stroke of Genius has been on the cusp, for a long time. I keep questioning whether to get it in there or not. Visions of Beyond seems like the best remove for it, but I'm so low on Isochron Scepter targets as is. I've had 2 scenarios in 7 games now where i've had to wait 2 turns to pull an instant with CMC 2 or less for the Isochron Scepter so I know that I need more targets not less. Curious Homunculus Flip / Voracious Reader Flip is more likely.
I have Scour from Existence in my maybeboard, Purphoros, God of the Forge is a key reason why Scour from Existence is key. Chaos Warp for me just doesn't do it. In play testing I'm still trying to figure out if 1) Play for my infinite combo, or 2) Have control to stop other combos is the correct play. Thus far I haven't lost (yet, but been at 1 life). Can't remember all the commander's I've faced (No Prossh, Skyraider of Kher yet so that would be a real challenge). Some commanders: Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge, Derevi, Empyrial Tactician, Breya, Etherium Shaper (seems to be the flavor of the month right now), Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, Kaalia of the Vast, Oloro, Ageless Ascetic, Karn, Silver Golem, The Gitrog Monster, can't remember any others. So verdict is till out on that. It's VERY good.
Fact or Fiction is funny, I just took it out of the deck Friday to test some other cards in it's place. I very much missed it in this weekend's games. Fact or Fiction returning to the deck soon as I figure out the removals. I'm considering removing the Isochron Scepter, that would change up a few cards that are simply there just to be targets, but then again when I think of an Isochron Scepter + Counterspell or Isochron Scepter + Mystical Tutor or Isochron Scepter + Cyclonic Rift... hmm, how do I not want that recursion, or a Visions of Beyond! = Draw 3 cards.
All Excellent suggestions, any or all should be in the deck. I'm still trying to figure out my fringe cards. Training Grounds maybe.
April 24, 2017 12:26 p.m.
Lot's of fun stuff in here, do you find you play fast enough to be competitive?
Bet you have some interesting and wild and wooly commander games with Eye of the Storm.
April 21, 2017 12:11 p.m.
I've found Mizzix of the Izmagnus also loves Comet Storm, that way you can Firemind's Foresight into Reiterate + Comet Storm + Mystical Tutor/Merchant Scroll which pulls Turnabout and you're good to go! With all your Counterspell, just try and stop you!
I would increase your lands by 3, I've found with less than 36 in commander you're just asking for problems.
Mizzix's Mastery and Epic Experiment has been pretty good to me too, helps me get going if I stall. Your strategy is more Counterspell centric than mine though, so waiting for you likely isn't as bad as when I do.
53 Instant/Sorcery + Buyback + Flashback, Guttersnipe!!
April 21, 2017 noon
Brainstorm is one of the best because it helps filter cards out of your hand back into the library, and then you can use a fetch land to shuffle away (or scry away), unneeded cards or extra lands.
Forgot about Bonfire of the Damned, awesome card.
I've found a good Epic Experiment for 8 or so can usually get me going if I'm slowed or stalled.
Just some ideas. Cool Deck.
April 21, 2017 11:51 a.m.
Evaluation List, These don't seem Synergistic with your deck:
April 19, 2017 6:46 p.m.
He is awesome though.
I don't mind Rakdos, Lord of Riots, he's a respectable 6/6 Trample, however, in playtesting, I've found he doesn't work as expected, and becomes somewhat situational.
I found that if I was able to Kaalia of the Vast resolve him, I would have rather resolved another more controlling A/D/D in his place, and clearly Kaalia of the Vast isn't being controlled. If I'm not able to cheat him in, I've found that he just sits in my hand anyway, even though he's CMC 4, it can be deceiving. Also, my overall plan isn't to cast creatures from my hand, something like Quicksilver Amulet can do that without restriction if needed. Once he is out, he only helps me commit more to my board position, which, in Kaalia of the Vast it can become far too easy to over commit in many scenarios. If things are going well and he's attacking and dealing damage, I probably don't need to cast another creature, or in any case, Kaalia of the Vast is probably still able to play them anyway.
I really do like Rakdos, Lord of Riots, I played him for about 1 year. I just never found his specific static abilities were strong enough to make the final cut in the deck. He is quite a reasonable, wouldn't think anyone crazy for running a Rakdos, Lord of Riots, 6/6 Flying Trample is amazing, and in certain situations you may find yourself, he will be a powerful ally.
April 17, 2017 12:08 a.m.
Thanks for the assistance on my Mizzix, the Storm deck.
I've found Mizzix's Mastery has been a great way to begin a storm, or recursive cast.
Tezzeret's Gambit generally nets 2 counters in most scenario as well.
Cool deck, was very helpful in making significant changes in mine, as well as your suggestions.
April 15, 2017 10:28 p.m.
The issue I find with Yosei, the Morning Star, is that he has to die, lots of people exile, also, he has to die to trigger which I feel is too slow for Aggro (I'm Aggro/Combo). Also CMC6 for a 5/5 isn't that much of a Threat either, with no static abilities, so he may actually be the very last to die. He also only targets one player, if it was opponents skip, it would be much more effective, basically buys a turn. By just hitting a single player in a 4-pod EDH (Duel Commander would be a different eval), isn't going to be that effective. For his size, CMC, and speed he won't make this deck.
Cabal Coffers is an amazing card, it's a nice way to spend $20 on a super swamp. In my build, I only have 6 Swamp, so it's generally not netting me much, since it's 2 to activate and taps itself so CMC3. Min need 2 of 6 33% of my swamps to net mana. Need 50% to net . It has awesome synergy with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, but at 1 of 99 1% chance (can't fetch it), i'm not going to bank on a random draw into it.
Thanks for the suggestions, hopefully my reasoning makes sense!
April 13, 2017 1:07 p.m.
Awesome, thanks! Manbeast75
Whispers of the Muse is a great suggestion for Visions of Beyond, I've never really had a consistent connected Visions of Beyond. I may keep Plea for Power in temporarily, and remove Visions of Beyond for the Firemind's Foresight, see how my draw works. Plea for Power with Mizzix of the Izmagus is usually for a turn or 3 cards, pretty respectable conversions. Keeping Whispers of the Muse on the backburner, also allows me to draw my entire library in an Infinite scenario, very interesting. I think I need Whispers of the Muse because of the Isochron Scepter to have enough targets.
Mind's Desire has been reasonably good to me thus far, not sure it's necessary, I may have won without it, but it allowed me to play a Guttersnipe or a Sphinx-Bone Wand. It's definitely low on my priority scale, I just put it in over Ignite Memories to test it out.
I see how Sakashima the Impostor would be good, especially for a Blue Sun's Zenith or Stroke of Genius, not sure I can get the room, plus I find that Mizzix of the Izmagus is usually free casting Kicked Rite of Replication anyway, but I'll keep it in mind.
Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir is amazing, I have to get one of him when I'm at the store next.
Intuition is an interesting one, I have it in my maybeboard, Mystical Tutor, Merchant Scroll, Past in Flames or Mystic Retrieval means I get to play them all, regardless of which card an opponent puts in my hand. Mystical Tutor or Merchant Scroll can pull my Firemind's Foresight or Turnabout, or I can pull Personal Tutor for a Mizzix's Mastery.
I've been looking through your deck and clicking the guys, still going through it all.
April 11, 2017 1:49 p.m.
Hi UR2L8. Thanks for the comments.
Angel of Sanctions is a respectable angel for Kaalia of the Vast. I think he may be able to take over a spot in the deck. CMC5 for a 3/4 is a bit heavy, but he can be cast from the hand at that cost, or with Kaalia of the Vast. He's not a threat at 3/4, but he is somewhat controlling with the Exile ETB. With built-in recursion it makes him viable. I would give him a playtest, see how he does.
I won't be trying a Cartouche of Zeal. It's an Aura, so it dies with the creature (Single use). It gives haste which is good, but I would rather draw a card with Crimson Wisps then prevent a creature from blocking once with Cartouche of Zeal. After the first turn haste does nothing, so don't see any need for this card to be an Enchantment as well, would be better served as an Instant. If you need additional haste Anger or perhaps Hammer of Purphoros/Fervor might be a better way to go.
April 10, 2017 12:03 p.m.
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