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If you click the little person in the top right, then click on your name BigJohneyBoy, it will show your main wall etc.

Just underneath the comment section you will see "Comment Tutorial", read through that, shows how you can us [ around a card, how you can ( ) to set the set, *F to set it foil, etc. If you've never done it, should also show up with a yellow arrow next to it just to the right of the comment box below your decks.

When you are writing a comment, you will see some boxes ontop of the window too.

The B is bold, I is italic, H is heading.

The little chainlink looking one, lets you enter a hyperlink http://. If you open your deck you can copy and paste the hyperlink after clicking the chainlink. Or any website http:// link. You can also use the symbol, looks like a book, that's "decklink", uses the SLUG of your deck, if you pull up your deck, tappedout.net/mtg-decks/19-09-16-kaalia-of-the-vast/, 19-09-16-kaalia-of-the-vast is your SLUG, thats what you decklink uses. You can always rename your deck, and while in edit mode click the "Reset SLUG" checkbox before saving to reset your slug to the new deck name.

The little person symbol allows you to enter another players name like user:BigJohneyBoy with the [ around them. Click the head it puts the formatting in, you just enter the username.

The picture looking one is an image.

The paper with a folder corner lets you add a card link, or you can do the [ card name like in the tutorial.

The drop one lets you put in mana symbols, the other three i've never used lol.

March 22, 2017 4:53 p.m.

Said on Kaalia of the ......

#2

Reiver Demon and Desolation Angel don't work in this case.

Really dislike this because of the new Bruna, the Fading Light. No Brisela, Voice of Nightmares for me.

March 20, 2017 11:29 p.m.

Said on Kaalia of the ......

#3

Hi BigJohneyBoy

Magic the Gathering - Wizards - Gatherer is the official errata site for Magic the Gathering.

Even if a card is printed different, which many are, for example Karmic Guide, you have to play by the Oracle rule.

In addition, they publish specific rulings on cards that are unclear, or have questionable interactions.

In the case of Master of Cruelties, using this link http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=368981, you will find several rulings, the one that clarifies the interaction that you are discussing, ie: if he didn't attack, does his if he is not blocked trigger, and when does it trigger, it is very clearly laid out.

Rulings 4/15/2013 An ability that triggers when something attacks and isnt blocked triggers in the declare blockers step after blockers are declared if (1) that creature is attacking and (2) no creatures are declared to block it. It will trigger even if that creature was put onto the battlefield attacking rather than having been declared as an attacker in the declare attackers step.

1) Triggers in the "Declare Blockers Step, After Blockers are Declared"2) It further clarifies the ruling "It will trigger even if that creature was put onto the battlefield attacking rather than having been declared as an attacker"

It's very clearly been ruled.

1) Attack with Kaalia of the Vast

2) Trigger Kaalia of the Vast Whenever Kaalia of the Vast attacks an opponent tigger, and put a Master of Cruelties onto the battlefield tapped an attacking.

3) After blockers have been declared, IF: Master of Cruelties is attacking (do not confuse with attacked), AND, No creatures were declared blocking it, you will trigger Master of Cruelties, and the opponents life will become 1.

4) Master of Cruelties says Master of Cruelties assigns no combat damage this combat, so he can't kill the opponent, however, Kaalia of the Vast is still attacking (and assuming unblocked), will resolve 2 points of combat damage to that player. That players life is 1 during the declare blockers step. So when Kaalia of the Vast hits for 2 during the combat damage step, she eliminates an opponent, if no other effects like Angel's Grace or Platinum Angel, etc are in effect.

Works exactly as intended an expected with Kaalia of the Vast. They can lookup the rulings on http://gatherer.wizards.com/ if they are still unsure, but this is 100% how it works. They've been robbing you of victories! :)

March 20, 2017 11:12 p.m.

Said on Kaalia of the ......

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I would consider Kederekt Parasite, his damage might be inconsequential once the angels/dragons/demons start attacking.

Blade of Selves for sure, only equips one creature, and the 4 is pretty high cmc for equip, plus it doesn't allow Kaalia of the Vast to multi-tigger, so not necessary. Can't equip it either during the attack, so only really myriads a creature that's survived a round or 2, which means it isn't a big enough threat probably that it matters to anyone anyway.

Victory's Herald maybe, he's good, CMC 6 for a 4/4 isn't that great, but his Lifelink is nice, it doesn't trigger off of a Kaalia of the Vast drop in though, so just for that reason could consider cutting him, but then again the next turn lifelink is appetizing. Gisela, the Broken Blade instead? or Baneslayer Angel

If you need enchantment like Stranglehold or Dragon Tempest or ... you have 9, you can run Enlightened Tutor and/or Idyllic Tutor

Not sure what you mean about Master of Cruelties? He is my #1 creature, I always Vampiric Tutor or Demonic Tutor. Kaalia of the Vast + Master of Cruelties (unblocked) = Eliminate Opponent. Not sure if you confused on this guy, but errata ruling is pretty clear.

4/15/2013 An ability that triggers when something attacks and isnt blocked triggers in the declare blockers step after blockers are declared if (1) that creature is attacking and (2) no creatures are declared to block it. It will trigger even if that creature was put onto the battlefield attacking rather than having been declared as an attacker in the declare attackers step.

March 20, 2017 7:51 p.m.

Hey jaiaisaiah,

You've identified the continual struggle I've found with Kaalia of the Vast, how many, and which board removals are the correct choice. I've floundered between Austere Command (Modular), Merciless Eviction (Exile), and Akroma's Vengeance (Cycling).

Here's the theory behind Wrath of God and Damnation. On turn 4 or 5 or 6, I want to have a connected Kaalia of the Vast + Master of Cruelties, or a Kaalia of the Vast + Avacyn, Angel of Hope or a limited few others like Iona, Shield of Emeria/Hellkite Tyrant, the situational guys. To do that I need to remove blockers on Turn 3 or 4 maximum, that's tough to do with a Merciless Eviction, but not that hard to do with a Sol Ring and a Wrath of God. It's just a little too slow, it's simply just WHEN the spell resolves vs. the actual power of the spell itself. HOWEVER, in a few games, in which I did have Merciless Eviction in there still, it was the only card in the entire deck that could save my game, funny enough one game I drew into it and recovered. Merciless Eviction is very powerful, but a little slow.

I'm really trying to find an efficient way to tutor for Anguished Unmaking or Utter End which USUALLY can solve the problem. Utter End is a little borderline too because of it's CMC 4. Grim Tutor is on my radar. Gamble I keep feeling like maybe I should be running this, especially with Reanimate and Animate Dead at my disposal. Shred Memory, but that can't pull Anguished Unmaking or Utter End, and Dimir Machinations can, but without a Necropotence to pull its not as valuable. Gamble scares me because if it put's my Lightning Greaves into the graveyard that's a huge setback.

There's a good possibility that Merciless Eviction will find it's way back in here. Great suggestion.

March 10, 2017 1:36 p.m.

Hey McKz thanks for the suggestion.

Agreed the meta on this deck is 29 creatures, I actually have nearly the standard compliment of creatures if you ignore my Dark Confidant (Card Advantage), Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker (Instead of Crucible of Worlds/Armageddon), Maralen of the Mornsong (Synergy/Combo), Silverblade Paladin (Trying him out to get 1/2 or 1 turn faster, his proc rate is high), and Stoneforge Mystic (Tutor). 33 - 5 = 28, 1 below the meta. It would be tough to go any lower, on occasion, but not often I still find I have a resolved attacking Kaalia of the Vast and nothing to drop. There is an argument to be made to remove the Stoneforge Mystic or Silverblade Paladin.

The ultimate reason why I've cut the Orzhov Signet is that I'm not casting the angels/dragons/demons ever, and usually my mana is untapped. I'm trying to get Kaalia of the Vast swinging turn 3 or 4 at the latest, and the Orzhov Signet requiring a CMC 3 to net 2 (2 cast, 1 activate) has burnt me so many times. I do have the Talisman of Indulgence in there CMC 2 to net 1 which allows me to continue playing. Too many times those signet have not allowed me to play a Sensei's Divining Top or Serra Ascendant that I gave up on them. I'd love to see another talisman in here, but there are none others in my colors. I have considered Orzhov Signet (primary colors) for another chance at the quicker ramp, but after turn 4 any mana rock is really a dead draw for me, especially one that requires CMC 3 to utilize. It's almost the same theory as lands that enter the battlefield tapped, which I avoid.

I've considered Mox Diamond but losing that land drop also feels wrong in Kaalia of the Vast too.

Mana Vault is a probable solution, but I dislike that you have to commit the during upkeep. if it was I'd have it in there.

March 10, 2017 12:47 p.m.

Said on the vast whoopass...

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Nice creature centric build, must be fun to play.

I would get a Command Tower in here.

You don't quite have enough spells targeting creatures to utilize Agent of the Fates, I would replace her with a Demonic Tutor so you can pull a REALLY fun Dragon to your hand, or the Coat of Arms.

Serra Avenger is a little weak for a turn 4 drop, and a wasted drop off a Kaalia of the Vast trigger. Angel of Despair, Lord of the Void, Iona, Shield of Emeria, Reya Dawnbringer, Hellkite Tyrant, all feel like better drops.

You have a few ways to cheat in the creatures, could ramp a bit more with Orzhov Signet or Boros Signet, or some other tricks like a Sneak Attack, Whip of Erebos and a Sundial of the Infinite to allow you to keep the creatures long term. With so many creatures would be pretty effective.

March 10, 2017 12:28 p.m.

Hi Jr88vette,

Thanks for the suggestions. Your deck is definitely a creature centric build.

The meta for Kaalia of the Vast decks are 29 creatures, I'm at 33, and have a couple borderline creatures I'm evaluation, Stoneforge Mystic, Thundermaw Hellkite, and Silverblade Paladin.

I understand the desire to beat people down and burn their corpses in the fire of a thousand dragons, but I need to have an alternative win condition built into the deck, which eats up about 6 card slots, just incase doing creature damage isn't working out.

March 10, 2017 12:20 p.m.

hardhitta71194

I can't find your Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind in your decks lists, might be set as private, or I might just suck at using this program, very real possibility.

Tolaria West is great, I could tutor a mama source, I don't need the hand size just yet because it's not quite tuned enough for me to have more than 7 unless I have like 40.

Jace Beleren pretty awesome, I worry about loading my opponents hands though, sometimes I'm barely hanging on, I don't have the draw engine like a Niv-Mizzet would have so makes sense. I could just use the -1 but trying to find more instant/sorcery and reduce non-spells to get better production from Melek while combo'ing.

Nice to see you have the greatest track ever recorded in your profile there, cash moves everything around me.

March 8, 2017 1:53 a.m.

Hi hardhitta71194,

Thanks for the nice comment. I'm continuing to play test, and update the deck as it goes. This revision has been the most consistent of all prior builds. With so many different combinations of combo cards, it seems to find a combo on turn 6-8.

I've noticed it does need additional card advantage, might try a Stroke of Genius as well which will pair nicely with Baral, Chief of Compliance and others. I'll keep testing. Steam Augury or Prophetic Bolt maybe. Still working on this issue. Impulse perhaps too to pair with Isochron Scepter. Invoke the Firemind. I'm not sure yet.

Still feeling a bit too defenseless as well, but can generally hold off 1 player indefinitely, plus have very low threat in multi-play.

Elite Arcanist has been great at the Storm Increment, but he's really the only viable target for Pemmin's Aura so we'll see.

Might try a Scroll Rack for the card advantage.

Might still have one too many Counterspell as well, will have to keep testing.

Reiterate feels missing, acts like an expensive Izzet Guildmage but need targets for Isochron Scepter.

March 7, 2017 7:49 p.m.

Said on Kaalia and Friends...

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Hi TheDoctor_Y2K, fellow Kaalia of the Vast player Kaalia, the Purifier EDH

Is this a Duel Commander Banlist? or Commander?If it's "Duel Commander" when you edit the deck there is a format for that.

If Commander Sol Ring is a critical add to the deck.

Also you have WU on the Exclude Colors list, which is making your analytics very wrong for your deckstats. You should be excluding UG ()

Command Tower is excellent for any deck. Avacyn, Angel of Hope is a flagship angel for this desk.

Rune-Scarred Demon is an all-star, he is 6/6 and replaces himself with a Master of Cruelties or an Avacyn, Angel of Hope or tutors up a combo card or solution for you.

Darksteel Myr doesn't seem to fit in this deck, not sure if he's part of a combo?

Boros Charm is an excellent protection card, you have a few that it could replace, keeping in mind it does all permanents.

Lightning Greaves is an amazing protection for Kaalia of the Vast or another key angel/dragon/demon.

Sacred Foundry, Blood Crypt and Godless Shrine would give you a good land upgrade.

Divine Verdict seems pretty narrow. Path to Exile, Swords to Plowshares, Hero's Downfall.

You have a good initial base here, needs some performance metrics added. Cool start, nice to see another Kaalia of the Vast player.

March 7, 2017 12:10 a.m.

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