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Hey Sir_Flash,

I clicked the link to sign up for the Discord server, and I setup an account, Spirits #9801, if that helps. It still doesn't show on my Tappedout profile though (still says join our discord server on my profile).

I haven't figured it out enough how to actually play games on there, I'll see if I can figure it out this weekend. I've been playing some Arena lately online too in my spare time.

If you have some pointers to get me started can try and figure it out.

I'll take a look at your deck as well, very fancy looking for sure.

April 24, 2019 12:52 a.m. Edited.

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Hey LordKunai,

Looking good. Mark of Fury is okay, but has to survive till EOT. I hate 1 removal giving a 2 for 1. Maybe double up on your Expedite with Crimson Wisps . I like it better because it can still draw you an A/D/D to cast with the haste Kaalia of the Vast .

Is Reliquary Tower just for Necropotence ? I might just go colored mana (I know how much fixing we have, but all our spells are or etc. Too situational.

I see your playing Terramorphic Expanse , there's definitely other better fetch lands, but don't forget about Evolving Wilds . I don't recommend either because I hate tapped mana (except Bojuka Bog ).

Vault of the Archangel might be a little too mana intense now, but it's still decent enough. I think Reflecting Pool might still be affordable but I haven't bought one in a long time.

Obviously Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Restoration Angel or Village Bell-Ringer go infinite, but there is also Combat Celebrant and Zealous Conscripts as well, but of course relies on the Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker quite heavily.

Also, not sure if you've mapped out all your Infinite combos, but don't forget you have:

Adarkar Valkyrie + Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Goblin Bombardment | Infinite Damage

Adarkar Valkyrie + Karmic Guide + Lightning Greaves or Dragon Tempest + Goblin Bombardment | Infinite Damage

Adarkar Valkyrie + Aurelia, the Warleader + Goblin Bombardment | Infinite Combat Phases

Adarkar Valkyrie + Village Bell-Ringer + Goblin Bombardment | Infinite Damage

And if you so choose, Adarkar Valkyrie + Zealous Conscripts + Goblin Bombardment | Infinite Damage

Thornbite Staff can also go infinite with Adarkar Valkyrie or Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker , also with Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker avoids the UGLY equip . Just an FYI.

Tainted Pact is an inexpensive (and instant) speed tutor, the problem is, you can't have any duplicate lands in your deck (even duplicate basic lands) so that's where it gets expensive. There's also Demonic Consultation if your a gambler lol, damn those top 6, it's also instant so can pull a Master of Cruelties if Kaalia of the Vast triggered ability gets on the stack, tutor for the killer.

You may want Crucible of Worlds , it works best with all the fetches like Windswept Heath , Wooded Foothills all the fetch lands, but also is awesome with Strip Mine or Wasteland ($$$). If you have Crucible of Worlds + a Fetch land, basically can filter out all the mana from the deck (while ramping) so when you draw it's usually favorable. I've contemplated it over Chromatic Lantern but don't have one to test, although reasonably priced since reprint.

I have similar worries around Cartouche of Zeal (2 for 1), but when you need haste you need it. I like Leyline of the Void more than Tormod's Crypt , Relic of Progenitus for sure, since it's a lasting effect and CMC0 in opening hand, and prevents the Experience from getting earned at all. But they are ok at the job. Relic of Progenitus would be amazing if it could target the card, but it has more utility than Tormod's Crypt anyway even with the downside.

Be careful with Angel of Jubilation he shuts down your deck too, like Goblin Bombardment , Razaketh, the Foulblooded , Necropotence , Phyrexian Reclamation , Diabolic Intent (might be wrong on this one would have to check the rule book on additional costs), Mana Confluence , Bloodstained Mire (or any Fetch).

Maybe Blood Crypt / Godless Shrine / Sacred Foundry probably enter tapped too (again this one would have to read the rulebook too, not sure if that's considered paying a cost to "activate abilities" probably not because it doesn't have the : symbol on it.

City of Brass is another good multi-color mana asource.

Terminus is a terrific way of getting rid of all those recurring creatures too (unless he can sac them all in response somehow).

Sun Titan + Gift of Immortality love each other, but he's a hard cast in this deck (think about with Goblin Bombardment .

If you have a Grand Abolisher then Mark of Fury works well, but I dunno I wouldn't personally play it or Cartouche of Zeal too scary for me.

I might have mentioned before, Angel of Despair is far superior to someone like Angel of Jubilation unless she's solving a specific pod problem for disruption to your deck. Hellkite Tyrant is hand if you play artifact decks like Breya, Etherium Shaper or Teferi, Temporal Archmage .

Mother of Runes can give protection if your facing Targeted removal.

Oh Hall of the Bandit Lord can give haste too. Diabolic Tutor is a underplayed tutor but if your games are going beyond turn 6 it's quite viable.

Rakdos the Defiler is almost as deadly as a Master of Cruelties if you can get him connected early enough.

Some ideas anyway, the reprinted fetches like Windswept Heath are fairly cheap still (I think).

PS: Zealous Conscripts loves stealing, Haste attacking, and sacrificing opponents creatures with a Goblin Bombardment .

April 24, 2019 12:48 a.m.

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LordKunai,

I use all those same tricks in my Budget Commander League deck Glissa, Scrap Trawler $50 EDH.

It's difficult because the A/D/D use the same abilities so the obvious Torpor Orb is out.

The best way is using Haste, Lightning Greaves swing with Kaalia of the Vast , if you've tutored and resolve a Iona, Shield of Emeria naming you should be in pretty good shape for example.

Avacyn, Angel of Hope can protect you from Woodfall Primus .

Leyline of the Void is the best, if it's in your opening hand then It's CMC0, otherwise CMC4 is quite reasonable. Shuts down the recursive component of the deck. Bojuka Bog is a classic. Rest in Peace / Grafdigger's Cage but since you have some recursion too might hurt you on occasion. With either you could combo with Helm of Obedience . Some others Angel of Finality (Angel). Nihil Spellbomb (Draw). Keep in mind that Leyline of the Void also means Meren of Clan Nel Toth isn't getting experience counters since the creatures are exiling not "die"ing.

Cauldron of Souls might also help, but they can see it coming, and CMC5. Cauldron Haze is a bit more tricky. Archangel Avacyn  Flip but doesn't help against Sacrifice (shes no Sigarda, Host of Herons ). Teferi's Protection works good.

You can also just have fodder to sacrifice, Angel of Invention or Bitterblossom or Abhorrent Overlord or Regna, the Redeemer something like that.

Replace the cards with something like Harvester of Souls but he might get killed, or Midnight Reaper .

Another way is to pick an Infinite Combo (like my Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Restoration Angel ). Winning on your turn (maybe with a Grand Abolisher out), is the easiest way to avoid the conflict!

Or just haste + Master of Cruelties him lol, if the board is clear.

April 21, 2019 11:25 p.m.

Hi Sir_Flash,

In Mardu () it's easier to Tutor (and lower CMC) for Artifacts like Lightning Greaves than creatures. Steelshaper's Gift & Stoneforge Mystic . Also Swiftfoot Boots & Lightning Greaves both provide Hexproof (Shroud) which also helps, and they are recursive (Equipments), whereas Torch Courier and Generator Servant are one time (Although Generator Servant also ramps, but Kaalia of the Vast only has not anyway).

Imperial Recruiter is about the only way to tutor them successfully, and it's CMC3.

Creatures also a little easier (generally) to remove than artifacts too.

April 21, 2019 10:35 p.m.

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Hey LordKunai,

Here's some recommendations, budget conscious where I can be.

Lightning Greaves is a critical component of Kaalia of the Vast , I play multiple tutors for it, like Steelshaper's Gift and Stoneforge Mystic . Lightning Greaves is a must, if you can't connect a Haste Kaalia of the Vast swing your going to have a bad time.

Gisela, Blade of Goldnight is a staple, the double ended effect is really the key. She is a bit pricey, so I'll offer some other options tool.

Angel of Despair , I believe is $0.25, another key removal for any permanent! like an Omniscience and drop her in off of an opponents Show and Tell . #Winning

Lands are important, but expensive, Blood Crypt because it's both a Swamp and Mountain is good, Godless Shrine same idea but Plains . Works with the check lands like Isolated Chapel .

Anguished Unmaking & Path to Exile good removal if you have, expensive to buy elsewise. Utter End & Mortify are cheaper alternatives but still exceptional removal spells.

Battlefield Forge is cheap and gives good color indexing. Diabolic Tutor is still okay at CMC4 and very inexpensive to all the reprinting of this tutor.

I would try and hone in on a desired goal and synergize around that. Mine is Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker and Restoration Angel , Land Destruction / Indestructible, Liliana's Contract / Shadowborn Apostle type decks, Worldgorger Dragon , Extra Combat Phases.

You have a little bit of Legendary sub-theme, some protecting yourself and Kaalia of the Vast sub-theme Magus of the Moat / Boros Charm , some recursion with Phyrexian Reclamation . You've got a very strong base of cards, once you pick a synergy, you definitely want to synergize around those core abilities.

You have lots of great cards, and I bet it's extremely fun to play! The Signet's are good, Talisman of Indulgence is cheap and better, I also feel like in most situations Fellwar Stone is better than the signet too. But because of the cost of the other mana sources, augmenting with Signets is a fantastic idea.

I don't like Subterranean Tremors , small ground walkers should matter too much to you, and all of your ramp comes from artifacts so destroying those is not a great idea. If your getting a Lizard, something is off the rails. Something like Vandalblast is better for Artifact control.

Never been a fan of Rogue's Passage , CMC5 for unblockable is too much, perhaps try something like Shizo, Death's Storehouse .

Crackling Doom another card that gets around indestructible, but so do things like Utter End or Anguished Unmaking . Crackling Doom is very unlikely to get what you really need it to solve.

Chancellor of the Annex doesn't seem strong enough for the CMC7, or Stax enough. Odric, Lunarch Marshal seems a little out of place, the A/D/D are pretty tough on their own, if you have enough where engaging Odric, Lunarch Marshal to multiply their abilities you should be winning anyway without him.

Archangel Avacyn  Flip is similar to Angelic Guardian but a little more versatile.

Sneak Attack another way to cheat things in, similar to Quicksilver Amulet .

I don't see anything out of place here, other than some of my comments.

Adarkar Valkyrie has many infinite combos (like infinite combat with Aurelia, the Warleader ) for example. I have a bunch under my Alternative Synergies Considered if your interested. She's powerful, can establish some combos, and fits the build in a budget format.

April 19, 2019 12:55 a.m.

Hey LordKunai,

Life is rarely a concern, one game I didn't have enough life to Razaketh, the Foulblooded the necessary mana sources + Goblin Bombardment (Post-Combat engagement so couldn't attack with the Infinite Restoration Angel that turn). I did end up recovering on the next turn anyway, by pulling (at the time), Whip of Erebos and then Lifelinking a Razaketh, the Foulblooded swing giving the life needed to tutor the win.

I did have one game with a failed Doom Whisperer Surveil, usually he just Surveil's into the win, but that one time he really screwed me. Lost that game to an Infinite win-con anyway, so he didn't lose me the game, just didn't win me the game.

Other than that, it's rarely been a problem, one time I didn't want to Anguished Unmaking when I normally would have, but again, didn't cost me the game.

It's really Turn 5 steady, sometimes Turn 1-3, sometimes 7-8, but averages out in that 4-6 range consistency. weezel has been consistency running around there too, gave him some tips on supercharging some plays that he may not of thought of that I learned through play experience, so hoping he can improve his stats. I really want this deck to be consistent Turn 4.5 (not 5), that is my goal. That said, I'm not willing to sacrifice everything to have a higher % of Turn 1. Let's say I'm 6% (ish) for Turn 1 now, not going to throw away Turn 6 wins, to go to an 8% Turn 1, need some balance.

It's fun deck, who doesn't like big A/D/D. Much more fun in my opinion than a The Gitrog Monster for example.

April 18, 2019 3 p.m.

Hey LordKunai,

He's definitely on the cusp, I spend life like it's mana, so it's comfortable having some lifegain. Definitely Baneslayer Angel is getting close to cut as well. We'll see what new A/D/D come with War.

I found 22 A/D/D the buoyancy level, less than that, a high % of time you connect with a Kaalia of the Vast attack with nothing to play for free.

I could make good arguments for: Archangel Avacyn  Flip shouldn't strike herself, Lord of the Void needs trample, Steel Hellkite .

It's a balance, trying to get better consistency on Win-Con below turn 5, it's been a tough barrier to break though.

weezel been a great help playtesting some of the cards, since I haven't had too much time lately outside my Budget commander league 2x a week to play.

Damnation I need more indestructible (like Archangel Avacyn  Flip), Teferi's Protection needs Split second or to be . I'm probably replacing Terminate with Gamble , and I've picked up a Hatred to try, but then I need MORE Lifelink. Hatred + Lifelink creature is Superstar, so he won't come out if Hatred is in.

Assumed you were kidding LordKunai, poor Bruna, the Fading Light , if only they had given her an ETB!

Might try an alternate combo piece instead of Reveillark like a Combat Celebrant but not sure. Hoping some cool new Dragons come out with Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God coming out.

April 16, 2019 10:06 p.m.

Applying the formula in the Superior Numbers - Land Counts Article by Nate Burgess.

Number of lands = 31 + amount of colors in commander’s color identity + commander CMC, with 0-CMC mana rocks counting as lands.

31 + 3 () + 4 () = 38 Needed

36 Lands + 1 Chrome Mox = 37, you need Mana Crypt (or Mox Diamond )

April 16, 2019 7:14 p.m.

Hi LordKunai,

Thanks for the comment! Bruna, the Fading Light puts the suck in suck.

Brisela, Voice of Nightmares is awesome...

But Bruna, the Fading Light is SO BAD it ruins it.

Several games I found Bruna, the Fading Light was functionally useless for me in almost all circumstances.

I found I don't need Brisela, Voice of Nightmares to win, but I've found I hate a Bruna, the Fading Light lol.

April 16, 2019 6:21 p.m.

Hi RobsJourney,

Glissa, the Traitor was my first Budget Commander League deck.

I primarily built it, without infinite combos, to participate in this league.

I really enjoy the First Strike + Deathtouch, it's an amazing combination.

It was originally a Modular build, around Birthing Pod , then it slowly transitioned into a primarily deck, now I'm trying to move toward more drawing to be able to ramp lands out to have more consistency with Mind Slaver .

Because of the restriction on budget Mtggoldfish.com at $49.58, so it evolves and changes as the prices of cards shift.

Currently, it's core strengths:

Control, sometimes I control the creatures (effectively) of all 3 opponents at the same time. When I get an Executioner's Capsule lock it can be pretty fun.

Recursion, it's good, gets the Artifacts recurring and utilized properly can prosper

Weaknesses:

No infinite combo, most of my other Budget Commander League decks have build in infinite combos (eg. Brago, King Eternal , Alesha, Who Smiles at Death ) or one shot kills with damage / commander damage ( Heartless Hidetsugu , Animar, Soul of Elements ).

I found ramping into the 10 mana required to recur the Mind Slaver was too slow (1 hour time limit on Budget league games), so instead of just increasing ramp (through artifacts), I've increased the draw. ( Ohran Viper for example)

Damage output, was good at keeping creatures off the board, but didn't have enough offense to do 3 players x 40 damage in the 1 hour, plus I was mitigating other players ability to damage each other. This is what led to the addition of Bonehoard , Nighthowler cards. I lost Blood Artist due to it's price escalating, which sucked, it's key, but I've added Poison-Tip Archer , which is no Blood Artist but he also has Deathtouch and Reach, plus instead of 1 opponent, he hits all opponents.

Glissa, the Traitor is still one of my favorite commanders, she has her strengths, has her weaknesses, she doesn't overload on abilities like Infect (which she could), so I very much enjoy playing her. Golgari () doesn't have enough combos to play cEDH, but in a Budget league, she is an excellent deck.

I have been trying to more move towards Deathtouch as well wherever I can as well, since it kind of plays towards that.

I've been playing this deck for over 4+ years, and never dismantled, only changed as the ebs and flows of the prices increased. If she was $100, she could be much more lethal.

April 11, 2019 11:35 p.m. Edited.

Hi weezel,

Unfortunately haven't been able to play much this past couple weeks outside of my budget commander league (under $50).

Turn 5 seems about right, here's some of the goldfishing stats:

05/02/17 | Avg. Turn 5.7

10/03/17 | Avg. Turn 5.0

01/25/19 | Avg. Turn 5.7 | Combo 40% | Synergy 20% | Damage 40%

02/01/19 | Avg. Turn 5.0 | Combo 50% | Synergy 20% | Damage 30%

Turn 1 is definitely not as frequent as I would like, but the cards to make Turn 1 more consistent make T2-5 less consistent in most cases. Dark Ritual is one that's pretty good all purpose and a T1 enabler if you want to improve your average.

I'm going to put Gamble back in, probably taking out Terminate but going to do a full evaluation.

Hatred + Baneslayer Angel or Gisela, Blade of Goldnight or Gisela, the Broken Blade or Lyra Dawnbringer or Serra Ascendant all work good.

Gisela, Blade of Goldnight doubles the benefit, and Kaalia of the Vast only needs 19 life to be lethal with Commander damage.

Any lifelink can swing for the fences, except Serra Ascendant he's not that effective because he loses the +5 but still doesn't matter because he lifelinks.

I picked up a Hatred last weekend, going to try it and will let you know. I really dislike it's CMC5, feels too slow.

Felidar Guardian is just another Restoration Angel and putting in Altar of the Brood just for one particular interaction (no other benefits), isn't a good process. I would just tutor the Restoration Angel + Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker . Altar of the Brood could replace the Goblin Bombardment if you wanted to test this interaction, works the same way basically.

Hellkite Tyrant is amazing, steals mana rocks, kills Breya, Etherium Shaper , etc.

Combat Celebrant I feel has ok synergy with Kaalia of the Vast , but I usually don't have that many A/D/D to drop in anyway. Wouldn't tutor him over the primary either. Why I like him is the CMC3. Worldgorger Dragon is another possibility for win-con, but takes some balls and a Piranha Marsh (Or Altar of the Brood !)

I'll let you know when I have some evaluation on Combat Celebrant or Hatred .

April 10, 2019 12:30 p.m.

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