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Revoke Existence Discussion
2 weeks ago
Nice build! I love how open the Atraxa good-counter-stuff archetype is, with the access to four colours and so many proliferate-able mechanics available.
I'd probably add some additional boardwipe-protection. You have Chasm Skulker and Hangarback Walker has been mentioned. Hooded Hydra is another option, and an inexpensive one at that. Heroic Intervention is an amazing utility card as well, it works in combat, against opponents' removal, and allows you to wipe the board and keep your own guys alive. Reyhan, Last of the Abzan works wonders against singletarget-removal and allows for blowout turns with Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord even if you don't have your Altered Ego + Enduring Scalelord combo assembled.
You might also want to think about graveyard-hate of some kind. Unless they see absolutely no play in your meta, graveyardstrats can spiral out of control fast if they are left unchecked. Both Scavenging Ooze and Phyrexian Scriptures are options that are on theme with the proliferate-extravaganza.
Oran-Rief, the Vastwood can help get the first counter on things to start proliferating. Prime Speaker Zegana is a bit mana-intensive and extremely underwhelming on an empty board, but if you reliably manage to have big creatures stick around for a turn, she can be massive. If you're willing to run it, Viral Drake gives you an alternative way to kill people and an additional way to proliferate. Luminarch Ascension draws a lot of hate, but can generate massive amounts of value and thanks to proliferate, you only need to get one counter on there to get the party started. As Foretold is a bit slow, but if it sticks for a bit, it can get pretty insane. With all those synergies, being able to play an additional card per turn can often just win you the game. Akroma's Memorial allows you to swing with your big creatures right away, provides evasion AND protects them from stuff like Anguished Unmaking or all those damagebased red boardwipes.
As for additional superfriends, Vivien Reid works well with creatureheavy strategies, and I really like Vraska, Relic Seeker, just because she is never a dead card. Ajani Unyielding is versatile and inexpensive. Just keep the balance in mind. I gradually built my Atraxa list from full creatures towards full superfriends and there was a stretch of time where none of the two strategies were really working out for me because of the mix. Some walkers can be huge fun in a +1/+1-counter-deck and vice versa, I'd just recommend you stay committed to one of the two as your main strategy.
Potential cuts: As much as I love the counter-synergies, quite a few of the actual proliferate-cards aren't all that great imho. Inexorable Tide just felt like a pretty clunky win-more card most of the times I drew it, and both Spread the Sickness and, to a lesser degree, Steady Progress are pretty overpriced for what they do, especially if your main wincon are massive creatures, where one additional counter often makes little difference. Contagion Clasp and Contagion Engine can also get pretty mana intensive, but they at least provide repeatable value without additional requirements. Revoke Existence feels kinda narrow. If you're running this with a trget in mind, by all means, keep it in, but you might want to keep your eyes open for alternatives like Utter End or Anguished Unmaking that hit more things. I'm not sure you have enough targets to really take advantage of Skullclamp. Mind's Eye felt pretty slow when I was running it, especially because the deck doesn't do tons of instantspeed stuff, so keeping mana open for it gets a bit sketchy. Mind Unbound is only worth running if your playgroup consistently allows it to stick around for a few turns. Otherwise you mmight be better off running something like Sphinx's Revelation or Blue Sun's Zenith. I'm not sure if I'd run three pillowfort options unless you're facing a lot of token strategies. Your deck looks like it should usually have some big blockers available, And if you don't people are usually fine with paying to take down key walkers.
Of course, it all comes down to your local meta, personal preferences/playstyle and (sadly) budget, so disregard anything I said if it doesn't feel right to you. I do hope some of it helps though ^^
Good luck and have fun playing!
2 weeks ago
Usually when people use the term "ramp" they mean mana acceleration. Perhaps you mean "pump?"
I think, given your very low AVG CMC, you could drop back to 22 lands safely. I suggest using those extra slots to add +2xSwiftblade Vindicator.
1 month ago
1 month ago
Nice budget deck. I heartily agree with your upgrade list. You may consider Revoke Existence to replace Forsake the Worldly since it's a little easier to cast, but without cycling it would be a dead draw if you have no use for it. Depends on how much you expect to need the removal.
I'm working on a similar deck, Ephara's Bureaucrats. I'm taking mine in a bit of a different direction (see enchantments), but I got the idea to use Shrieking Drake from looking at yours so maybe you'll get some ideas of your own looking at mine.
1 month ago
I don't think you need any more recommendations for tuning purposes from me but I've been brewing my own list and these were interesting cards:
2 months ago
2 months ago
I think you need more 1CMC creatures to establish your board faster. You have a lot of humans, so probably Champion of the Parish would be the best, though I recognize that isn't super budget. There are so many possibilities - I'm sure you can find some on your own if you decide to try to add more.
With your current AVG. CMC and especially if you add in a few more 1-drop creatures, I think you could go down to 20 lands.
Brave the Elements will be awesome here - you'll be able to make a lot of lethal swings many turns sooner as well as protect against a lot of removal.
I suggest running at least 2xDisenchant or 2xRevoke Existence over Demystify in your sideboard, depending on your meta. I also suggest at least 2xOblivion Ring or Cast Out for wide-range removal. Sanctify might be fun in your sideboard.
3 months ago
Leonin Shikari is quite good, the "Instant" speed equip means you can move your Infect Grafted Exoskeleton, or Protection Hammer of Nazahn, or Trample Loxodon Warhammer, or Card Advantage Bloodforged Battle-Axe around after blockers are declared to maximize / have favorable outcomes. Along with a Puresteel Paladin he becomes great. To get his Metalcraft working properly you need some other artifacts like Ancient Den, Tree of Tales, Inkmoth Nexus. Since you have Bloodforged Battle-Axe in your build, I would try and work him in, because the Draw ability he offers when you start multiplying the Bloodforged Battle-Axe could be a win-con.
Behemoth Sledge is good, I prefer the offense of the Loxodon Warhammer, the reason I don't run both is redundancy, since I tutor my artifacts, I would rather have more options than duplication/redundancy. However, in a less (equipment) tutor intense build, I like the redundancy as it increases my draw %. Coupled together with the Puresteel Paladin can get it's Equip cost down as well. You have Enlightened Tutor, but with no (creature) tutorable Stonehewer Giant or Stoneforge Mystic, I would run the redundancy since the Trample and Lifelink are both key to your success with Infect.
Taj-Nar Swordsmith is also not a terrible Equipment tutor in a budget scenario. I don't like his CMC but, he is a (Creature) tutorable, and gives an (Equipment) tutor for the Infect Grafted Exoskeleton. Depends how your finding your games going if he is relevant. If others are combo'ing on Turn3-Turn5 he wont have any impact.
Skullclamp is a nice way to avoid creature removal heavy decks, like , can turn your 1 creature that has been Go for the Throat into Card Advantage. It also allows you to turn tokens into Card Advantage, and it's a CMC1 Artifact for Puresteel Paladin Metalcraft and Draw.
If you don't have a budgetary restriction on decks, Lands is definitely where you'll get consistency, things like Temple Garden are pricey, but very good because they are searchable as Forest and Plains and enable other lands like Sunpetal Grove as an example.
Lifecrafter's Bestiary is also a decent budget Selesnya () card. I don't like its CMC3 cost, and it requires to activate, plus this isn't a creature deck. The Scry 1 combined with the Draw, can be effective though.
I use Chord of Calling for my Felidar Sovereign and Archangel of Thune/Spike Feeder combo. It's fairly pricey, but if you have it already, I would run it! You can still use it to pull any other creature, like Lost Leonin too, but usually later in the game they are less effective, than the early tutor/double-strike like Worldly Tutor.
Krosan Vorine is in your mainboard, my mistake. Take him off your Maybeboard.
Fortified Village is still fairly inexpensive, I believe. Good for consistency.
Path to Exile is a little pricey, but it doubles as an Emergency tutor, and it's Exile so VERY powerful.
Rhonas the Indomitable I've found is an awesome tempo guy, ANY cat means that he can Attack, and is indestructible, and is Deathtouch, and can add Trample (or multi-pump an Infect/Trample Cat to win).
Sylvan Library is ridiculously expensive, however, If you aren't under budget constraints, and you can trade for one, it's the BEST card advantage you have in the arsenal.
I'm not a huge fan of Divine Reckoning, it's not going to get rid of the creature that is the REAL problem. It's only Destroy as well. I think, the creature that anyone else keeps is usually better than the creature you keep, except perhaps in an early Lost Leonin or something case.
I also really dislike Hunter's Prowess. If it was Instant, I could deal with it. It's just setting you up for a 2 for 1 situation. Sorcery Cast Hunter's Prowess onto a creature, creature is removed in response with a Swords to Plowshares. You lose #1 The creature (and the offense) #2 Hunter's Prowess is countered. Plus it's CMC5 is really high, He can enable a double-strike or Infect guy for sure, but too high CMC, and too risky for me. Something like Hunter's Insight I'll take the risk on because I know what Blockers look like, and I cast it JUST before the damage assignment step, so yes, he could still be removed in response, but usually at that point they've accepted/arranged the damage and now I get the draw. Personal preference. If it was an Enchantment as well, I would also be ok with it, as a Sorcery, no thanks. That beings said, if you do connect with it, very nice +3 and Trample and Draw, but why CMC5.
I like the Life's Legacy at CMC2. I've added to my Maybeboard, I think it needs to go into my deck as well. Eminence a Cat, Attack with Cat, Sacrifice Cat (As part of the cost, so no way to remove the creature in response to counter the spell), also no targeting. It's pretty good, CMC2 for 4+ card advantage. I like it. Without a creature it's not that great, but hopefully, have a Token cat or something to use. Excellent budget card.
Not the biggest fan of Myriad Landscape. i could live with it if it didn't enter the battlefield tapped. Because it enters tapped, it's going to hinder me more times that it's ramp will help me.
Oreskos Explorer is good, but I don't like that he is and only pulls more , and is conditional on ETB without Flash. I think he can, in multi-player pods, potentially pull you some Plains, but later in the game unless you're playing other ramp, you'll have more lands that everyone. Everyone else just using Mana Crypt and the sort to ramp without . I don't like that he doesn't mana fix and is useless late game. I wouldn't run him.
Rishkar's Expertise is also too high CMC and too conditional for my liking. To properly utilize it, I need 1) CMC6, 2) A decent size creature with Eminence 3) That creature in 2 isn't removed in response (I know it doesn't target, but if i have a 6/6 (eminence) and a 1/1 lifelink token, if they remove the 6/6 in response, I only draw 1 even though the spell isn't countered) 4) I have or draw into a card that is CMC5 that makes sense to cast right now. If any of these things aren't there, it's a dead draw to me.
Stalking Leonin is ok, he's 3/3 for CMC3. The selection process feels bizarre/strange/uncomfortable to me. His ability is an activated ability "reveal the player", so if he dies, then all you've gotten is a 3/3 for CMC3. He can only exile a creature that "attacking you", so he can't protect planeswalkers, and he can only remove attacking creatures. The creatures you really want to exile RARELY attack. I would rather have a different creature that provide immediate ETB or Static ability that is not conditional. But that's just me, not a fan of him, which I originally thought I would be when I saw him in the Spoilers.
I love Terminus one of my favorite cards. In Selesnya () there's no efficient way to put it back ontop of the deck, so it's Miracle is going to be a little hit and miss randomness, but it's still good. Gets around hexproof, shroud, indestructible, etc.
Did you get a Vivien Reid in your pre-release play? He doesn't really synergize with Arahbo, Roar of the World.1) His CMC5 is quite high for a planeswalker 2) It's not a creature heavy/win-con based deck, so he's not going to consistently draw a card for his +1, unless you put some Scry mechanics in the deck (please don't) 3) Unless you need more destroy Artifact/Enchantment/Flying in your pod, CMC5 is way to much for that. 4) even if you destroy for CMC5, then +1 (no draw), then Destroy again, it's so much CMC and so many turns, too kludgy. 5) Not being a creature win-con heavy deck, the ultimate doesn't direclty represent a win-con for you, it's good, but not a win-con level ultimate. I would make better arguments for CMC6 Ajani Unyielding or CMC4 Elspeth, Knight-Errant or CMC4 Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants.
Some others have argued to me that Felidar Cub is a good tempo guy, who "locks down" opponents from casting powerful enchantments until they can deal with him, in that analysis he is good because he's preventing casts. I tried him, I haven't seen enough, I prefer guys like Leonin Relic-Warder that offer solutions without having to die, but thought I would mention him anyway.
Revoke Existence is not bad, with it was Instant speed. I'm not sure you want to be the one controlling Artifact/Enchantment. CMC2 for Exile and Modularity is good though, can't argue to take it out, just not sure what Artifact/Enchantment you're worried about that will change/disrupt your plans?
The deck looks pretty solid, I'd be surprised if you weren't Turn 3/4 Infect killing with a Lost Leonin + Eminence + Ajani, Caller of the Pride/Berserk/Silverblade Paladin/etc. at least once in a while?? or pulling a Triumph of the Hordes and Trample/Infect killing.
Always tutor Lost Leonin if they don't have an immediate response he is a win-con with Eminence. I've killed with him without doublestrike quite often, just having 2 connected hits. Cast a blocker, I'll gladly Swords to Plowshares + Eminence hit you a couple turns.
How has the deck been going, you must be having some success? Arahbo, Roar of the World is a Tier 4 commander, and with an Under $200 deck, I'm sure your not competing consistenly vs. Tier 1 commanders like Kess, Dissident Mage or Zur the Enchanter or anything, but on occasion (because of the early creature tutor for Lost Leonin and the concentration of Double-strike enables, you MUST be contacting.)
I just did some very quick (5 games) testing, Turn 7 was the worst for lethal damage, Turn 4 the best. It's not bad for a under $200 commander. Takes time to learn how to play it, tutor. Like Congregation at Dawn is Lost Leonin/Silverblade Paladin so you can infect + eminence + doublestrike in 2 turns (as an example).
Just some of my opinions anyway! Very nice build, +1. Cheers.