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Destroy target artifact. It can't be regenerated. Create X 1/1 green Saproling creature tokens, where X is that artifact's converted mana cost.
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Artifact Mutation Discussion
1 month ago
@deakmana, Thanks for the comments!
Its cool to get some comments from an actual competitive perspective.
Re: Crop Rotation : The card disadvantage is real; and it might not be obvious from just reading this list, but it doesn't really need Gaea's Cradle, it's just sort of nice to have. Most of the time you want a Blood Moon effect anyway, so the Cradle gets turned off (and Scavenger Grounds, and Spinerock Knoll). Although Boseiju, Who Shelters All is an interesting suggestion.
Spinerock Knoll has been good so far. It's a nice way to get more gas at a pretty minimal cost; in many cases it doesn't even cost a card.
I'm never sad to see a one-sided wipe. Literally every competitive deck except maybe Jeleva and Teferi have creatures in play. I'm not sure if you've played any competitive EDH in the last 18 months, but there's these two commanders called Thrasios and Tymna... And those decks tend to be loaded with creatures. It's sort of a bummer that most decks actually do have a few creatures in play, frequently with stats like 1/3 or 2/2, which makes it hard to get clean attacks with the hatebears. Ezuri's Predation is just about as easy to cast as Mizzium Mortars, and is vastly superior. Not only is it disruption and mana destruction, it's nearly a game-ending threat!
re: Gamble. I tried this and cut it quickly. If you want to use it to get something you're not going to discard, then you have to do it off your opening 7. That means you're spending turn 1 playing gamble instead of a mana elf, which is just terrible. Or your spending turn 2 playing gable instead of a stax piece, which is also terrible. Then if you want to play it turn 3, you've got 3 cards left in hand. One of the benefits of this deck is that it doesn't use the graveyard... so if the tutor target gets discarded it's gone for good. In a lot of decks Gamble is good because it's a second copy of Entomb. As you can see, the opposite is true here.
Incidentally, Chrome Mox has a similar problem: basically its likely that you don't have enough spare cards to come back from the card disadvantage. The general doesn't provide card advantage, so we're not reliably ramping into something that refills the hand.
I've tried Orcish Lumberjack. It's really bad to play a turn 1 dork that might not actually make mana, which happens, if you don't have a forest. It can be strong tho. Perhaps its worth using. Have you tested it in this list?
I've also tried and cut Skullclamp. It's just slow and not good. I don't have a reliable 1-toughness token producer (like in a Tana, the Bloodsower deck), and basically token-making isn't a great route to victory. It doesn't draw off commanders and the only thing that leaves is using it to draw off mana elves after the mid-game when you don't need the mana anymore. That's just not a winning plan, anyway.
2 months ago
Here are some suggestions that aren't all a million dollars
- Windswept Heath - Blossoming Sands
- Wooded Foothills or Marsh Flats - Vivid Grove
- Bloodstained Mire or Verdant Catacombs - Golgari Guildgate
- Temple Garden - Selesnya Guildgate
- Overgrown Tomb - Temple of the False God
- Godless Shrine - Scoured Barrens
- Aura Mutation - Artifact Mutation
- Mortify - Vindicate
- Putrefy - Abrupt Decay
- Mentor of the Meek - Abzan Battle Priest
- Deathrite Shaman - Abzan Falconer
- Demonic Tutor - Sterling Grove
- Vampiric Rites - Necrogenesis
- Phyrexian Arena - Explosive Vegetation
3 months ago
Things to add:Kodama's Reach,Explosive Vegetation,Stomping Ground,Sunpetal Grove,Rootbound Crag,Canopy Vista,Cinder Glade,Artifact Mutation,Aura Mutation,Hour of Reckoning,Cathars' Crusade,Impact Tremors,Warstorm Surge,Dragonlair Spider,Craterhoof Behemoth,Avenger of Zendikar,Rhys the Redeemed,Champion of Lambholt,Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite,Psychotrope Thallid,Iroas, God of Victory,Nacatl War-Pride,Kamahl, Fist of Krosa,Gahiji, Honored One,Eternal Witness,Mirari's Wake,Collective Blessing,Glare of Subdual,True Conviction,Sylvan Library,Privileged Position,Sterling Grove,Selesnya Signet,Commander's Sphere,Darksteel Ingot,Mind Stone,Gavony Township,Decimate,Hull Breach.Things I'd cut:.Grove of the Guardian,Llanowar Reborn,Mogg Hollows,Transguild Promenade,Vivid Meadow,Gruul War Chant,Rites of Flourishing,Zendikar's Roil,Animist's Awakening,Broken Bonds,Gaea's Blessing,Ground Assault,Martial Coup,Molten Disaster,Tempt with Vengeance,Sporoloth Ancient,Thallid Germinator,Verdeloth the Ancient,Zhur-Taa Druid,Vedalken Orrery,Worn Powerstone
4 months ago
Other potential adds: Champion of Lambholt, Dragon Mage (You should be able to dump your hand with all the mana), Fierce Empath (to grab hellkite charger), Pyreheart Wolf, Vigor, Disrupt Decorum , Dolmen Gate, Growing Rites of Itlimoc , Arachnogenesis, Artifact Mutation
"Out of combat" wincons. Assuming you can go infinite with Aggravated Assault there is still a chance they have they can block you and not die. So add some of those safe attacking cards plus creatures like Hellrider
4 months ago
5 months ago
Thank you for going through all the trouble of listing out these cards. I really appreciate that!
But a lot of these either make creatures bigger than 2/2 and that just doesn't work with the deck.
I made it around my creatures being 2/2 or less.
Or the cards you suggested produce angels, Elementals, or beast.
And I need saprolling for a some of the effects of my other creatures like Thallid Germinator.
5 months ago
Okay. Sorry I'm late, so I'll make it a good one.
Maybe too slow: Assemble the Legion, Awakening Zone, Dragonlair Spider, Elspeth, Knight-Errant, Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury, From Beyond, Growing Ranks, Imperious Perfect, Jade Mage, Kazandu Tuskcaller, Krenko, Mob Boss, Rakka Mar, Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage.
Awesome: Artifact Mutation, Aura Mutation, Baloth Cage Trap, Brimaz, King of Oreskos, Hanweir Garrison, Hero of Bladehold, Martial Coup, Nomads' Assembly, Oketra the True, Sacred Mesa, Sram's Expertise, Sundering Growth, Tempt with Vengeance, Tilonalli's Summoner, Trostani, Selesnya's Voice.
So yeah. Quite a list eh? Had to comb through 660 cards. So like... there's a lot.
6 months ago
Koro, Thopter King
Legendary Artifact Creature - Thopter
Whenever a Thopter you control deals combat damage to a player, put a +1/+1 counter on it and draw a card.