Ghired, Conclave Exile

Legendary Creature — Human Shaman

When Ghired, Conclave Exile enters the battlefield, create a 4/4 green Rhino creature token with trample.

Whenever Ghired attacks, populate. The token enters the battlefield tapped and attacking. (To populate, create a token that's a copy of a creature token you control.)

Tokens

• Rhino 4/4 G

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (48)

DemonDragonJ on Should Color Pie Breaks Be …

3 weeks ago

legendofa, that makes sense, but I am glad that Hornet Queen exists, since I have a copy of her in my Ghired, Conclave Exile EDH deck.

Icbrgr on Fun Deck/Builds to try

1 month ago

I have had an absolute blast with Ghired, Conclave Exile.

I kinda just have a soft spot for {R}{G}{W} in general but the mechanic of the commander is very fun to build around and is also very fun to play. I honestly don't win a lot of games but 7/10 at some point in the game I feel like i am the threat or have a big splashy play to create some fun board presence/combat shenanigans.

I have a pretty detailed deck description if you are interested (its listed in my profile page) but the super quick description is capitalizing on making lots of tokens/ETB value and takeing extra combat phases to crash in with big stompy creatures.

{G} ramps very well and searches lands good so even when playing high Mana value spells it feels quick and {W} feels feels great for Akroma's Will and removal and {R} ties it together with haste and Breath of Fury effects.

legendofa on Murders at Karlov Manor

2 months ago

Another random passing thought: {R}{G}{W} seems to have an oddly high presence around Ravnica, and the Selesnya Conclave in particular. Ghired, Conclave Exile, Kaust, Eyes of the Glade (I think), Voja, Jaws of the Conclave, and none of the other guilds have have this semi-third-color-ness. Probably doesn't mean anything, but I thought it was interesting.

DemonDragonJ on Why Do Recent Sacrifice Effects …

3 months ago

wallisface, last weekend, I was using my Ghired, Conclave Exile deck, and another player summoned Sheoldred  ^Flip, which forced me to sacrifice a non-token creature, despite the fact that I had numerous tokens at that time, which is the entire purpose for having tokens, to protect creatures that cannot be replaced as easily, which is also a valid tactic in real-world warfare; to have large numbers of easily disposable troops to protect the important people.

I feel that, by specifying "non-token" creatures in forced sacrifice effects, WotC is entirely nullifying the strategy of producing tokens; why would a player want to produce tokens if they cannot use them as cannon fodder?

DemonDragonJ on Crystal Ball or Sylvan Library?

4 months ago

I have a copy of Crystal Ball in my Ghired, Conclave Exile EDH deck, but I am considering replacing it with Sylvan Library, because scrying is excellent, but actually drawing cards is better in most situations, but I am not entirely certain about that decision, so I would like to ask the other users of this forum for advice.

Crystal Ball's ability can be used at any time, but it requires mana to use, whereas Sylvan Library's ability triggers only during it's controller's upkeep step, but it requires no additional mana to use, only life, which should not be a problem, for this deck, as the deck does contain at least some life gaining.

What does everyone else say about this? Should I replace Crystal Ball with Sylvan Library, or leave the former card in my Ghired deck?

Max_Hammer on How should I upgrade this …

1 year ago

Here is the link to the Millicent spirit precon. It is bad.

I have four precons here that I'm upgrading: Ghired, Conclave Exile, Anje Falkenrath who is being swapped out for Chainer, Nightmare Adept, Kadena, Slinking Sorcerer who I just posted another help request about, and lastly the spirit precon here.

This one is by far the weakest and worth the least, and quite frankly spirits aren't great to begin with. Now, this question is really a matter of opinion I suppose, but it'd be great if someone could recommend a commander or some cards to really boost up the power level, but not ones that are super pricy.

I mean, sure, fetch lands and duals and Smothering Tithe + Rhystic Study would make it stronger, but if I had that money I'd just buy a whole new deck.

The main problem with the deck is that it's hard to get set up, and once you are set up, a board wipe is basically impossible to recover from. Not to mention that if I am set up and not hit with a wrath then my 1/1s will only do so much.

The deck also seems to have some tapping synergy as well as investigation. I'd be more than willing to mostly revamp the deck, but I kinda need some suggestions first because I have zero clue how to start.

Sidenote ranty tangent here Show

It really sucks thinking about how cool spirits could be and how sucky they actually are. Which, like, it's fine whatever, but it's a bummer knowing that new or returning someone probably bought this deck thinking ghosts are spooky and cool, let's go with this, and then got totally ROFL-stomped by their friends who just bought better decks. Not even for more money, mind you, just decks that happened to be stronger.

Or for what happened to my dad, who bought these decks on a whim, was not knowing that spirits sucked balls and then, again, getting ROFL-stomped because someone else happened to pick a stronger deck.

I think this really comes down to playtesting and an approximate level of evenness between all of these precons. Not to mention that it can't even be power creep, since this bad boy came out 2021 and the others (I'm fairly certain) came out in 2019.

And I know the precons can't be, like, busted or have super valuable cards, but these other three are, in all honesty, pretty kick-ass. Why the downgrade?

At least I think they learned their lesson, somewhat. The WH40k precons were pretty heavy metal and had little-to-no fat in them, so that's good at least.

That said, the ghosts need to be doing the ROFL-stomping, WoTC.

And for the record, I'm not like totally livid about this, I'm just bored and rather verbose. It's a bummer, but that's about it.

Okay, rant ended.

Michigone on Isshin for a Fight

1 year ago

Been a second since I changed anything, deck was overdue for a little update. A newer player in my playgroup plays a Kardur, Doomscourge deck, and I read an article recently that talked about how to combat power creep in a playgroup in ways that are fun and interesting for everyone. And the article talked about building decks with your meta in mind, or at least coming up with ways to combat specific decks that you are likely to see, and in the interest of full disclosure, I don't often do that. I find myself building decks that excite me from a mechanical perspective, and then fine tuning the deck relative to my playgroup through playtesting, and in this way letting the meta affect my card choices for slots in my 99. I don't think it's a bad way to deck build, but I think I ask others for their opinions a lot (sorry Crow-Umbra), and that it's a result of me not looking at my meta in particular. I think that thinking about my card slots in terms of what I'll sit down and face on any given play night would actually have me asking less, or maybe just different questions of what my deck should be doing to accomplish its game plan.

Okay, so that's a long ramble, and all of this is to say that against the players in my play group that field decks that put up big bodies that I can't swing into (Gargos, Vicious Watcher, Ghired, Conclave Exile) or their decks go wide enough that they can chump block my creatures to death (Edgar Markov, Ghired, Conclave Exile, Alela, Artful Provocateur, Marrow-Gnawer, Isperia, Supreme Judge, Lathril, Blade of the Elves), or they play Goad (Just the Kardur, Doomscourge Deck currently), I need more protection for my attackers. Now Crow-Umbra mentioned Reconnaissance way back, and I kind of slept on it because I thought (incorrectly) that it would hamper my ability to do damage, but still offer me the benefit of vigilance. But I realized that after the errata by Magic in creating multiple combat steps, that I can still use Reconnaissance to untap my attacking creatures after they've dealt damage, during the combat end step, thus allowing me to "have my cake and eat it too." So I was wondering what to cut, and I landed on cutting Curse of Opulence. It is irritating to the player that it gets put on, and it's hard to assess as early as turn one who the biggest threat will be, and it embitters whichever player I put it on against me, so even though I get ramp off of it, and other players do too, it doesn't really do me too many favors. So Curse is out, Reconnaissance is in.

Michigone on Crow_Umbra

1 year ago

Hey Crow-Umbra, I finally got the chance to play Isshin in a pod a few nights ago! All of my playtesting has just been me playing Isshin and a friend's Mayael the Anima against each other online. It has helped me learn to assess threats to my deck's strategy in a 1v1 setting, and in 1v1, my Isshin deck is feels solid. But since I'm the only one doing the playtesting, I don't play more than 1v1. But maybe I should. That's a good thought to explore.

But. 1) What's your win rate with Isshin in your pod? 2) How do you win with Isshin in multiplayer? Not you specifically, but more generally, how does one win with Isshin in multiplayer, thousand-foot strategy and all that, although obviously I also want to know how you specifically win with your Isshin deck.

Thoughts on the two mutliplayer Isshin games:

The deck had a very Purph feel to it, and it was fun to play at the table and watch people get burned down. But I was first out in game one and second out in game two. There was way more interaction and removal at the table than usual, mostly from my side, especially a few great board wipes in both games. But I lacked the card draw and mana to get back up and running faster than other players after the wipes.

So what do I do? Lean more into group slug, i.e. put in Impact Tremors? Lean away from wipes and focus on ramp and draw? More protection for my creatures? Anyway, these are just some thoughts I'm kicking around. The finer points of piloting that I'm still struggling with and would love some input on can be articulated as thus.

3) In thinking of actions I could have taken differently in my games to better my chances of winning, I reasoned that I could have assessed who was the biggest threat at the table (I actually knew this both games, but more on that in question two) and just directed all my damage output to them first, thus knocking them out. Then I would turn on the other two players and gut them. I COULD play this way, but my feelings on playing that way can best be described as distasteful. I don't want to be a bully. Maybe more specifically, I dont want another player to have to sit out for a long time because I gunned them down first and then have them watch me slowly debone the other two players. Seems like it might be unfun for them. But is that a route to victory? I mean, if I'm going to become the archenemy right away because of the fast aggression of the deck and the quick changes to my board state, do I have to embrace that mindset? Which leads me nicely to question...

4) As the only deck in the meta with a robust removal suite, I played both games with a strategy towards parity for all players so that everyone could be at the table for as long as possible. Is this a bad strategy? To better define "parity for all" I'll give you an example. I knew the biggest threat at the table in game 1 was the Ghired, Conclave Exile deck, and I rightly removed its Anointed Procession when it was played, because I knew how out of hand that could get, but I held myself back from using more removal on its Garruk's Uprising in the vain hope that the other players at the table would understand the threat it represented and use their own removal on it. I also held back because I didn't want the Ghired player to feel unfairly targeted by my removal, even though I knew how big of a threat their deck was (The other two decks were a SLOW and poorly tuned Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle and the Isperia, Supreme Judge pre-con unchanged). When playing aggro (or maybe even magic in general), is playing for parity possible if a player is trying to win?

Now the last question is probably more of a style of play choice, but comes from the same place as the others.

5) I noticed that board wipes kept me in the game, and kept the game going, but at what cost? As I may have mentioned before, our meta is very little permission and removal, and we often get 3-4 games in over a 3 hour period. We seem to like this pace of play, as it allows us to switch up decks, try new things out, and everyone gets to do their thing. With a board wipe, it kept everyone at the table longer because the games lasted longer, but we only got 2 games in over the course of 5 hours. They were much closer games, with lots of back and forth, which kept it engaging, but maybe it would have been better to scoop and get more games in? My problem with board wipes is more a two part question I guess. Part I) How do I recover more quickly after a board wipe than my opponents? Do I need more card draw? Do I need more protection to keep my creatures around? And Part II) I guess this is similar to question four, but when is the right time in an aggro deck to play a board wipe? How do I threat assess the table correctly to say board wiping now will help me close out the game in a turn or two? And maybe more broadly, if my philosophy has been in almost all of my decks so far to win in a big flashy play all in one moment (infinite combo or alpha strike), do I need to shift off that playstyle in order to play a low to the ground fast aggro deck with a hefty removal suite? Is there a way in Isshin to have a big flashy win besides building board state over turns? Is that leaning more towards group slug?

Anyway, this is a massive post, and I know that it is an investment of time and energy to read all of this let alone answer all or even any of these questions, so if you have any thoughts that you want to share I am very appreciative that you took the time to read all this and come up with a/some response(s).

Thanks,

Michigone