Tahngarth, First Mate
Legendary Creature — Minotaur Warrior
Tahngarth, First Mate can't be blocked by more than one creature.
Whenever an opponent attacks with one or more creatures, if Tahngarth is tapped, you may have that opponent gain control of Tahngarth until end of combat. if you do, choose a player or planeswalker that opponent is attacking. Tahngarth is attacking that player or planeswalker.
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|Commander 2019 (C19)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Tahngarth, First Mate Discussion
1 month ago
Very cool! I have a similar Karona deck: Gift of War
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1 month ago
Hey hey dawg!
There are just so many ways you could go about this! I have no idea if I'm doing the right thing here but here are a few ideas
Return of the Wildspeaker --> out -- I just dont think this card is very good in general. You dont have a ton of big creatures and +3/+3 isn't that exciting. Would rather play Harmonize which is unconditional.
Austere Command --> maybeboard -- This could be wrong, but I was looking for cards to cut and felt like an expensive wrath wasn't exactly where your deck wanted to be.
Keeper of Fables --> maybeboard -- I mean I get it that you can potentially draw up to 3 cards a turn, but its just so meh.
Greater Auramancy --> Maybeboard -- I was considering this cuz I think there's potential for a strong enchantments theme. Opted for Sterling Grove instead because it also tutors but this is here just as a consideration.
Archon of Absolution --> maybeboard -- Its on theme but I don't think its taxing enough right? maybe I'm crazy and this is exactly what you want cuz you can trigger goad with your commander?? but its 4 mana as well idk I just took it out cuz its floor is very low.
Kinjalli's Sunwing --> out -- Not sure why this card was in here to begin with, I mean you aren't granting mass haste or anything and the whole idea is you're goading people so few people are gonna have blockers, plus plenty of your is evasive. I think Thalia, Heretic Cathar feels this role very well already.
Urabrask the Hidden --> maybeboard -- This card is sweet but its 5 mana.
Elspeth, Sun's Champion --> maybeboard -- Elspeth feels a little out of place.
Beast Whisperer --> maybeboard -- Not into this as a reliable form of card draw.
Soltari Champion --> out -- I get the idea, you're trying to trigger goad, but isn't this card just bad? a 3 mana unblockable with battlecry doesn't seem particularly playable.
Gruul War Chant --> out -- This card is just way too low impact for 4 mana.
Sunblast Angel --> Maybeboard -- I get the idea cuz everyone is attacking and tapped but meh.
Dryad Sophisticate --> out -- I don't think unblockable 2/1 are good enough even if they do trigger marisi. I like the idea of playing evasive hatebears or something. Maybe I'm just way off base with this deck haha
The Great Henge --> maybeboard -- this card is sweet and super pwoerful but you got a bunch of dorky 2/2s and stuff this thing is gonna routinely cost you like 7 mana and at that point wouldn't you just play Zendikar Resurgent? (I didn't put zendikar resurgent in though but if you want an effect like henge, I think I'd go with resurgent)
Druids' Repository --> main -- Idk! this seems cool and fun!! All your creatures become mana dorks cuz they'll be attacking anyway! Seems p good! Also if you make a bunch of 1/1 tokens with Tempt with Vengeance and Sylvan Offering you make a bunch of mana when they attack!
Skullclamp --> main -- I think because stuff like Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor plus having a bunch of stuff that might end up dying this'll draw you a lot of cards. Plus if you play Tempt with Vengeance and Sylvan Offering its bonkers!!
Insurrection --> main -- Its a sweet win condition!!
Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor --> main -- in my view this exactly what you want to be doing!
ok wow this comment is getting long so I'm just gonna list the rest of the cards that I think should go in/out:
War's Toll -- in
Sterling Grove -- in
Sphere of Safety - in
Sylvan Offering - in
Enlightened Tutor - in
Harmonize - in
Goblin Spymaster - in
Tahngarth, First Mate - in (this one just seems fun :D totally get it if you decide not to)
Tempt with Vengeance - in
Teferi's Protection - in
Rishkar's Expertise - out
Grand Melee - maybe, for now I decided to just play war's toll but maybe neither are good enough
Whew!! Can't wait to play against this in any shape or form! Hope at least some of these suggestions help!
1 month ago
Clackbridge Troll, Moldervine Reclamation, Grismold, the Dreadsower, Rampage of the Clans, Revenge of Ravens, Evolutionary Escalation, Bloodthirsty Blade, Deathreap Ritual, Hunted Troll (most the hunted cycle), Wishclaw Talisman, Allure of the Unknown, Akroan Horse, Awaken the Erstwhile, Stormfist Crusader, Tahngarth, First Mate, Spiteful Visions, Flowstone Slide, Shadows of the Past
1 month ago
Hey, you're welcome :)
What's the max budget you have to make card upgrades? When you finish making upgrades what price range can you have for total deck cost? The precon for example at $60 is low and I would hope you could afford at least $50 for upgrades. If you can afford more expensive price cards then my card suggestions will be different then if you can't. Smothering Tithe and Birds of Paradise for example are very good cards for ramp, but they might be too expensive for the budget.
What advice about upgrades would you like?
Some cards from the precon that can be cut since they're not as good as others or don't have good enough synergy with Ghired:
- Blossoming Sands
- Graypelt Refuge
- Kazandu Refuge
- Rugged Highlands
- Cliffside Rescuer: can only protect something once which is not worth it when there's options that can be repeatable.
- Doomed Artisan: these tokens are not worth populating.
- Roc Egg: has to die before it does anything.
- Heart-Piercer Manticore: can be fine as creature removal, but I think there's better options.
- Scaretiller: too slow as ramp or anything else.
- Tahngarth, First Mate: belongs in it's own deck as Commander General.
- Atla Palani, Nest Tender: belongs in her own deck as Commander General.
- Soul of Zendikar: there's better six drops to play.
- Emmara Tandris: there's better seven drops to play.
- Tectonic Hellion: yikes.
- Desolation Twin: too much mana and the token is lackluster with no evasion.
- Commander's Insignia: not a good anthem effect for four mana.
- Full Flowering: this doesn't do anything unless you a lot of mana and a have a token on the battlefield to populate.
- Trostani's Judgment: there's much better lower mana cost options to exile a creature. Getting to also populate is not worth four or five extra mana.
- Soul Foundry: too slow.
2 months ago
Well, there's quite a few ways to make a deck quicker, the simplest would be just to add more ramp. Rampant Growth , Kodama's Reach , Nature's Lore . Having Ghired out by turn 4 is good, so try to stay under 4 CMC with ramp spells.
The deck, like any precon deck, has quite a few weird cards that don't fit the main commander, for example Tectonic Hellion , Tahngarth, First Mate , Marisi, Breaker of the Coil , Scaretiller etc. These are interesting cards and they have homes, but Ghired probably isn't that home.
When playing, check which cards are underperforming, as well. Some do fit your theme but simply aren't very efficient. Some, like Emmara Tandris or Desolation Twin can come down to late with too little impact. Of course, it's ultimately your call, some people, myself included, enjoy using less efficient cards if they have fun effects. It's commander after all, it's about using the cards you enjoy!
Having a faster star will absolutely help, but being able to hold out for a longer game will benefit you too, which is why card draw is important as well! Card draw is very valuable in commander, so some more of that couldn't hurt. the deck already includes some awesome draw cards like Ohran Frostfang and Idol of Oblivion but there's plenty of other great draw spells as well and it's an effect you're likely going to want lots of. I like Rishkar's Expertise a lot personally, and Return of the Wildspeaker is awesome, being either a draw spell or an Overrun effect if needed.
If you'd like to see more suggestions, I recommend the site EDHREC. You could use it to see what cards other Ghired players use, which can be very helpful! Although remember to make your own decisions on what to include too, the majority's not always right. Just see what cards are the most fun to play, that's the most important!
Hope this helps! Happy populating!
2 months ago
Definitely was not achieving my ramp or lands in draws the way I was hoping through 4 actual games. I did manage to win one by successfully using Goblin Diplomats while the weakest person on the board, encouraging two players to fight each other and then swinging Tahngarth, First Mate for the kill. Was wild and super fun.
Still making edits though. I really want War Cadence in there.
5 months ago
First off, I like this deck! It's always really fun to see Thantis decks, and your comment on mine inspired me to check this one out.
I think I agree with you that the four cards you're looking to take out are weaker than you would want; fortunately, there are several great new options that came out in the last few months (as of writing this).
- Tahngarth, First Mate is a 5/5 with a minor assault suit on, which is definitely more interesting than some of the cards you presented.
- Revenge of Ravens is sort of a better Blood Reckoning , adding a life gain component which can help keep you alive just a bit longer. It's not legal according to Tappedout but of course it is.
- Archetype of Finality gives every creature you control deathtouch, which helps protect you in a lot of ways.
- Stuffy Doll doesn't get around the attack requirement, but its ability is a great political tool; attack someone else, and let them block with their biggest creature!
- Rowan Kenrith can deal 3 damage to all tapped creatures, and is simply delightful (even if a bit costly)