Creature — Human Shaman
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control six or more lands, create a 5/5 red Dragon creature token with flying onto the battlefield.
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|Commander 2019 (C19)||Mythic Rare|
|Battle for Zendikar (BFZ)||Mythic Rare|
|Worldwake (WWK)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Dragonmaster Outcast occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%
Dragonmaster Outcast Discussion
4 days ago
My first question is why no damage doubler effects? Furnace of Rath and similar work extremely well. Even though the opponent gets to decide what order the damage effects happen, you're still getting a big damage boost.
Second, have you considered going down to 33 or 32 lands? Your curve is pretty low and you aren't dumping your hand via artifact rocks or mana rituals. I think you could probably find one or two slots from land drops.
How have the planeswalkers been working out? The 4 CMC Chandra seems fine, but the other two seem expensive for not much effect.
Why are you running colorless creatures? The damage isn't amplified. Reality Smasher is expensive to cast at 5, and is effectively a vanilla 5/5 that keeps up card parity when it is removed. Smuggler's Copter gives card looting but requires creatures to make it work, creatures that could just be attacking and getting the +2 damage anyways. I can also see why you'd keep Phyrexian Revoker but Pithing Needle might outperform it here as its harder to remove and 2 damage a turn is negligible in EDH.
Some of your 3 and 4 CMC creatures you should reconsider for speed and effectiveness purposes. Thunderbreak Regent is a flying creature, but you aren't getting reliable triggers from it, most likely just one. Tectonic Giant offers card advantage and MASSIVE damage with Torbran. Inferno Titan is another powerhouse with Torbran as you can split the damage 3 ways and get 3 damage apiece. Mindsparker seems too niche and is a 3/2 first strike for against decks outside its color hate. Jaya Ballard, Task Mage seems nice but waiting for summoning sickness feels bad and having to pitch cards to it is a no from me. Taurean Mauler is certainly appealing and presents a threat later, but without trample you're losing out and would be better served by Hordeling Outburst for efficiency sake with Torbran. Finally, Dragonmaster Outcast takes way too long to turn on, and requires an upkeep step to do anything, making it prime target for opponents to remove. Its great when it works, but another token producer is going to outpace this. Specifically, Krenko, Mob Boss is going to run away with the game much faster especially if you have any random extra goblins floating around.
Alpine Moon is much more marginal than you think. Sure its shutting down Gaea's Cradle but your two other moon effects should be more than enough. Outpost Siege is a very marginal effect both ways, and I would recommend a cut for Impact Tremors if you are looking for more damage. Tectonic Reformation is -1 card advantage when you cast it, and no matter how many times you cycle it stays at -1 card advantage. It also becomes easier to cut if you go down to 32 or 33 lands. Experimental Frenzy seems useful when you've emptied your hand but seems marginal in the vast majority of circumstances. You aren't really running topdeck manipulation like Sensei's Divining Top or Scroll Rack to smooth this card out, and I sincerely think Thrill of Possibility is going to serve you better by making you have better turn 3's and turn 4's in your games.
1 week ago
I need to ask, how do you feel about tutors or infinite combos because I have more suggestions if you are okay with either. As far as token producers though, Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer, Dragonmaster Outcast, Elspeth, Sun's Champion, Followed Footsteps, Goblin Assault, Goblin Rabblemaster, Helm of the Host, Legion Warboss, Loyal Apprentice, Luminarch Ascension, Mechanized Production * , Mirrodin Besieged * , Outlaws' Merriment, Regna, the Redeemer, The Locust God, Thopter Spy Network. These are all things that make tokens every turn. The ones noted with * are also alternate win cons.
1 month ago
If it's a casual deck then there are lots of things you can do. Before I start suggesting things, in the end this is your deck. So even if I say some things could be better according to my opinion, you should only pick those you aggre or that you think we'll make the deck more confortable to play with.
Again, first things first. You still need to trim it down to 65 cards. No decks, except for Battle of Wits ones but those are exceptions, run above than 60 cards. Having extra 5 cards will only make it harder to draw the cards you want.
One of the things I immediately would cut is Zirilan of the Claw . He isn't that budget friendly and rather slow as you have to pay 5 mana, wait one turn and then pay 3 mana to activate its ability.
Another one to cut would be Dragonmaster Outcast . I know he's very appealing to play with, but he's a few problem that will probably let you down some times. First, since you're playing monored you don't have any ramp, you'll need to rely on drawing lands every single turn while also having to draw and play him just to meet the requirements of his effects. Second, he's just a 1/1, so having him survive even a single turn can be really hard as he also doesn't have any form of protectio. Third and last, since you have Flame Sweep you would either restrain yourself from playing it to keep him alive or be forced into a situation that you would need to kill him alongside other creatures to survive.
Cutting one Drakuseth, Maw of Flames and one Verix Bladewing shoukld also be fine. They're ok cards but since they're legendary you'll be able to have more than on the field anyway. Also, casting Verix Bladewing without kicking would just make him basically a vanilla dragon, which wouldn't really impact the board. However, he can be a nice late game option.
Replacing the 3 copies of Sarkhan's Dragonfire and one copy of Dragonspeaker Shaman for something like Cathartic Reunion or Faithless Looting should help with consistency. The effect on the the Dragonfire is "nice" in conjunction with the damage but there are better damage and card advantage spells you can use. Dragonspeaker Shaman also isn't too budget friendly while being kinda easy to remove from the field, which would make the mana you spent useless.
It may not seem really useful to use cards like Cathartic Reunion or Faithless Looting since you wouldn't benefit much aside from digging through your deck. However, I ahve some things you could add to capitalize on the discard.
Bladewing's Thrall - With spells that make you discard you wouldn't even need to run black mana in your deck, just discard them and as soon as one of your dragons comes into play you would get them all back. Also, Dragon Tempest would give them haste if you have a dragon in play.
Dragon Scales - Depending on the dragons you choose to run, you could discard this and as soon as a dragon comes into play it would get a small buff and vigilance.
Fledgling Dragon - This one wouldn't benefit from being discarded but would from filling the graveyard.
I'd like to see what you think about these before continuing.
1 month ago
Suggestions on how to build:
You need to think much more clearly about what your payoff will be. In Modern, the established Orzhov Tokens deck has plenty of generators, but wouldn't be nearly as powerful without cards like Intangible Virtue , Windbrisk Heights , and Legion's Landing Flip. Another payoff is that token generators are "creature" spells without being creature spells and synergize well with Bedlam Reveler and Young Pyromancer . The 8-whack style of pure aggression using the extra bodies to your advantage also works
I also agree with Boza that three colors is difficult on a budget. Another good option is going for 75% one color and splashing for the really good cards outside that color. I think you should cut black and may be able to focus on red depending on how it ends up.
Specific suggestions for this deck:
From what I saw, you really like aggressive red creatures that also create tokens. I think a good place to start would just be capping the curve at three mana and filling the deck with cheap aggressive cards. So cut anything above three mana and Impact Tremors and Dragonmaster Outcast . My favorites from your deck: Legion Warboss , Hanweir Garrison , Goblin Rabblemaster , I like many of your two-mana choices, but I think testing will decide whether you need immediate board presence with Goblin Instigator effects or the possibility of a larger board presence later with Skyknight Vanguard effects.
My suggestions: Reckless Bushwhacker (aggressive and cheap payoff card), Launch the Fleet (flexible generator), Venerated Loxodon (payoff card/bomb that you should be casting for one mana), Brimaz, King of Oreskos (just fine in this deck), Zealous Persecution (I know I told you to cut black, but this honestly seems good enough to splash for), and Legion's Landing Flip (good early, great late).
1 month ago
No Dragonmaster Outcast ? Seems like a good card for this deck.
2 months ago
2 months ago
In playtest, Dragonmaster Outcast (the only C19 card that creates dragon tokens) brings out a 5/5 dragon token for me. There should be no tokens that are broken in regards to the playtester.
However there are a growing number of tokens that are breaking on the token list of deck lists. The situation is getting worse and I don't have the capabilities to fix it. I've just been waiting for yeago to tackle the problem. The tokens are all correct in the backend, and are all linked properly, it's just that one section of the site that's borked.
3 months ago
I do have to echo LordTea's suggestion on Dragonmaster Outcast - it has good synergy with Dragon Tempest . Speaking of lands however, I think the deck needs some viable budget fetchland options- just about any deck could benefit from Zendikar/Onslaught fetches...but not everyone has the budget for them. There are budget conscious fetchland options in the form of Mirage fetchlands. They do come into play tapped, but they function just like any of their more high-end counterparts. Another suggestion along that line of reasoning would be the inclusion of more typed lands - if you can afford them, pick up some Shocks. But some cheaper viable options would be the Bicycling Lands from Amonkhet.