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|Battle for Zendikar (BFZ)||Mythic Rare|
|Worldwake (WWK)||Mythic Rare|
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Creature — Human Shaman
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control six or more lands, put a 5/5 red Dragon creature token with flying onto the battlefield.
Dragonmaster Outcast Discussion
5 days ago
Thanks to everyone that commented for the great feedback.
There are a number of cards mentioned that are already on my acquire list that I want for the deck that I just didn't have handy because they are already in my Scion/Ur-Dragon deck or others. This includes Illusionist's Bracers , Flameshadow Conjuring , Dragonmaster Outcast , Thousand-Year Elixir , Dragon Tyrant , High Market and Tel-Jilad Stylus . I should have included a 'too acquire' list.
There are some cards I cut from my first draft simply do to overall mana curve. I always build my decks too high and so I deliberately go back and reassess everything 6 CMC and up. I found this to be the case when I cut Dragon Mage , Utvara Hellkite , and Scourge of Valkas (avoiding 3 colored in the casting cost...I know, I know, it's a mono deck, but I still find away to get locked there somehow). I also did find Scourge of Valkas meeting my 'answers' need when it was tutored, but I can see @TypicalTimmy's combo as fun shenanigans, so I might need to make room for them.
As for rocks, I had trimmed both Fellwar Stone and Ruby Medallion because I went more on utility in other areas. The same sort of went for Dragon's Hoard . i'd be interested in suggestion on what to cut for any of these. I did leave both Thought Vessel and Reliquary Tower deliberately out as the deck just never puts you in that position to need them.
The honest answer on the City of Brass , Command Tower , Mana Confluence , Path of Ancestry , and Reflecting Pool is I ran out of the unhinged mountains I wanted to use and need to get more :). The command tower was an easy add as it doesn't lose much aside from being affected by anything that targets non-basic lands. The Path of Ancestry was because I wanted the advantage of the scry and then the ping lands were because I need more unhinged mountains.
I had Gamble in the deck, but cut it in favor of others. Suggestions on what to pull out for it?
Chaos Warp is in the deck.
5 days ago
6 days ago
Hey, Dragon Tempest , Utvara Hellkite and Dragonmaster Outcast are among the best Dragon themed cards to play. Tempest is more ways to give Dragons haste including Zirilan as well do some damage to opponent or creature when you cheat Dragons into play. Utvara should always be your first Dragon to search for with Zirilan since haste means she will create a 6/6 Dragon when she attacks. Dragonmaster is good in multiplayer Commander because he's a possible repeatable source of Dragons. Utvrara and Dragonmaster are busted with Tempest.
Consider Gamble and Chaos Warp ? They're staple red cards since their effects are not something that traditionally red has access to (unconditional tutor and enchantment removal). More two drop mana rocks are helpful for ramp since Kirilan requires a lot of mana to get going. The two drop mana rocks you play don't have to make red mana since making red mana will not be a problem with so many Mountains. The mana rocks just need to create mana for ramp and in my opinion consider a lot of mana rocks? Mind Stone , Fellwar Stone , Thought Vessel , Ruby Medallion , Dragon's Hoard , Everflowing Chalice , Prismatic Lens ? Ashnod's Altar lets you make mana by sacing a Dragon or token copy before your end step, if it's going to die anyway might as well make some mana.
Thousand-Year Elixir can also give Zirilan haste as well as untap him to potentially use his ability another time during your turn or during an opponents turn. Tel-Jilad Stylus is helpful to put a Dragon back into your library after it attacks so it's not saced EOT. Dragon Mage is a very good Dragon when it has haste because red lacks many draw options and Mage is repeatable draw each time it hits an opponent. Dragon Tyrant is good when it has haste, hitting for 12 flying/trample damage.
Good luck with your deck.
2 weeks ago
I found your deck when i was working on my own Ben-Ben, Akki Hermit build.. (Found the reddit post actually). You went eldrazi heavy, which isnt my build but i still found some stuff that would work for me. I can't believe I didn't consider Dragonmaster Outcast and Claws of Valakut . Im gonna need a bit of a rebuild after looking through this list.
I dont know if you are still working on this build, considering it has been 2 years since it was last updated, but Crawlspace is a must, along with Goblin Sharpshooter (especially if you have Gorgon Flail or Basilisk Collar in play
2 weeks ago
Norin the Wary is a very funny card with Purphoros, and not particularly easy to answer. Someone casts a spell that would kill Norin? Oh, he just runs away and comes back at the end of the turn!
I'd also consider other cool token producers could be cards such as Dragonmaster Outcast and Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs . Once it rotates and hopefully goes down in price Rekindling Phoenix could also be cool!
3 weeks ago
Metropolis39 I'll toss Ranger's Path and go for more Cultivate , maybe toss in more mana dorks so Myr Superion is easier to get out. I try to eliminate control with Vexing Shusher and Rhythm of the Wild .
I like to stay away from Lightning Bolt , as I don't want the hassle of online ordering and my local magic store has them at about 3-6 dollars, I don't remember.
I just want to abuse Utvara Hellkite with Dragonmaster Outcast to create more powerful tokens to constantly threaten my opponent with. Once I can get two dragon tokens out, I can get out Ghalta, Primal Hunger for two mana.
3 weeks ago
Well, if you're still looking for other low-cost dragon related cards, Dragonlord's Servant and Dragonspeaker Shaman seem excellent ways to both have creatures early and to ramp (although the latter is sadly not Modern legal). Dragon Whisperer may be Mythic Rare, but is still very cheap. Dragonmaster Outcast would be great for you, but may be out of your budget.
1 month ago
Thanks for your comments! We agree with your first point; a turn two-three Purphy is rather terrifying. We've already tried to put some effort into the deck's construction to make sure we can cast him early, and more of the same would be nice. However, Brood Birthing would not really suit this deck. It would need more, early-casting opportunities (as in turn 1-2) of Eldrazi related stuff in order for us to really benefit from this sorcery. Skirk Prospector makes more sense to us; maybe in exchange for Dragonmaster Outcast . We will give it some thought.
Red is great at damaging stuff, so in that sense it's great at creature removal. The removal you're talking about however; yeah, it's an issue. We've had Chaos Warp in here before. Fact is that the chances of drawing it when we need it are slim. We also have no means to tutor for it. So rather than relying on a lot of luck or relying on more (expensive-to-cast) removal, we figured we were better off ignoring removal entirely and focus on red's strengths instead.
And besides, even if Purphy is removed, we can still create a rather large goblin army and let's not forget Impact Tremors , Burn at the Stake , Marton Stromgald and Descent of the Dragons for some great damage dealing.
Mrs. and Mr. NV_1980
Dragonmaster Outcast occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%