Plague of Vermin
Starting with you, each player may pay any amount of life. Repeat this process until no one pays life. Each player puts a 1/1 black Rat creature token into play for each 1 life he or she paid this way.
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Plague of Vermin Discussion
2 months ago
With Plague of Vermin you can dump 39 life into it and get 39 ETB triggers and gain it all back while draining the opponents by 39. :D
Credit goes to NickyBolas for that card; I never would have known it existed had he not put it on his list.
3 months ago
Thanks for the upvote and the suggestions!
Yeah Zombie Infestation is definitely one of my favorites.
At first, I was skeptical about the Syr Konrad, the Grim idea, because it seemed to be doing exactly what our combo was doing, and I didn't want to use up another card slot for another Altar of Dementia , but after some thought, I'm starting to reconsider. Maybe Konrad doesn't need a combo to be deadly. I'm picturing a scenario with Konrad on the battlefield, and then resolving a Living Death . Or even just drawing a whole bunch of cards, then discarding a whole bunch of creatures. It'll be something interesting to try out.
I put Desecrated Tomb into my Marchesa, the Black Rose deck, and it did really well, but I don't think it'll do too well in Hogaak's case. In general, I try to stray away from exiling creatures from my graveyard, but even if I did start exiling them, I don't picture myself getting that many bats....
I've never been too much into the token build. I usually don't need a whole bunch of tokens to replay Hogaak, though there are a couple times when I'm short on creatures. I don't think I'll need the Plague of Vermin or the Spontaneous Generation if I'm being honest.
I feel like for each person who makes this deck, they have to make the decision between Hermit Druid and Traverse the Outlands . I personally think I'm fine without the Hermit, so that's why I don't include it and have the Traverse instead.
Now Cadaverous Bloom .... Wow. Just wow. I think this card is busted, and I'm surprised that this is the first time I've ever heard of it. I know it exiles, but that's a small enough price to pay when you're drawing 8 cards a turn. A definite include.
I think I've put in and taken out Skirge Familiar twice now. It's good, but sometimes I need to replace it with some better stuff. For example, that Cadaverous Bloom you just mentioned! If I have the space, I'll add it in.
I think Living Death is enough. I don't particularly need a whole bunch of mass recursion.
Again, thanks for the suggestions! I know I'm rejecting a whole lot of them, but I'd rather stay honest, than give people my false opinions. But that doesn't mean people shouldn't give me a whole bunch of suggestions; the more the merrier!
3 months ago
Great list +1
I'm building Hogaak this week and I'm excited to finally play Zombie Infestation .
How would you rate the following in Hogaak?
Cadaverous Bloom ...for the combo turns?
4 months ago
Dude! I think you're selling yourself short with this one! You could put wayyy more tokens into this and break it... get those Blood Artist triggers.
Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder , Infernal Genesis , Awaken the Erstwhile , Plague of Vermin , Worm Harvest , Izoni, Thousand-Eyed , Spider Spawning , Tombstone Stairwell ... Tendershoot Dryad ... I can go on :)
Stinkweed Imp ... more dredge!
Hogaak was so good they had to ban him in Modern lol.
4 months ago
I aggree with nikolaTesla, adding more ramp would greatly improve the deck.
6 months ago
Your landbase is pretty solid, but the ramp could do with an increase. Things like Wayfarer's Bauble and Expedition Map will speed things up along with Thran Dynamo and Gilded Lotus which excels in mono-colored decks. Plague Wind is just Damnation but costs an extra 5 mana. Patron of the Nezumi is also way too slow for any commander deck. The rat sac'd to lower the cmc just isn't worth it. Plague of Vermin will almost certainly be your downfall against any kind of lifegain deck at the table. Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni only works in a couple of situations and could be replaced with a 2 cmc card like Burglar Rat , Gutter Skulk or Pack Rat that last one is personally my favourite of the bunch. Anyways I think the biggest problem with the deck is the high cmc cards with not enough benefit.
7 months ago
I'm at work now so I can't really dive into this yet, I may come back to it later, but I can tell you something that helped me deal with my need to make fun decks in a group that evolved passed that point: I taught new players the game. New players don't have a good gauge of what's good or bad and they tend to go for the things they think are cool or the things that look fun. They're the perfect people to play your Goblin Game / Plague of Vermin + Worst Fears / Mindslaver deck against.
7 months ago
My no budget recommends
Tutor and Draw
Life to Effects
Mindblade Render Nightmare Lash Lashwrithe Death Cloud Dystopia Strands of Night Plunge into Darkness Withering Boon Killing Wave Circle of Affliction Phyrexian Etchings Plague of Vermin Bond of Agony Moonlight Bargain Phyrexian Reclamation
The list looks pretty tight overall. There are definitely some cards I'd be cutting though.
Hope this helps mate.