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Past in Flames
Each instant and sorcery card in your graveyard gains flashback until end of turn. The Flashback cost is equal to its mana cost.
Flashback (You may cast this car from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
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Past in Flames Discussion
1 day ago
Hello there! Love to see any Mizzix deck as a Mizzix player myself. You say you want this deck to have a "tournament level" competitive approach, maybe I can help you out a little. With all due respect, I want to be frank and I don't think your deck can be called competitive at all right now. I don't know your budget situation, but I will try to break it down as much as I can and give a wide array of options.
- Mana situation: Let's start with the basics, namely your basic lands. As you can see on the nice pie chart, your cards are about 2/3 blue and 1/3 red. Still you have your lands almost at 50/50 islands and mountains. Only 4 lands can produce both and , consider City of Brass, Reflecting Pool and Forbidden Orchard. Moving on, your ramping mana rocks could be better too. Any cheap rock - cheaper than Mizzix herself - let's you cast Mizzix earlier and is a huge benefit to finishing faster. On top of that they can help you cast those big spells should your commander not be around for some reason. Consider any rock that costs 2 or less. Another way to solve the mana issue involves ritual effects. Cards like Seething Song or Turnabout, just to name a couple, give you a sudden burst of resources but demand a combo oriented setup and play style. Although if you want the fastest way to win, rituals are the way to go.
- Curve: Overall your spells are quite expensive. Now I know Mizzix makes casting big spells almost trivial, but if you really want to field this deck in a competitive environment, you should not count on having her out at all. People will target you, just because of your commander. Consider cards with lower cmc to stay relevant when you are under pressure, even if that means giving up on splashy spells. Many cards you are playing now, could be replaced by strictly better ones. Especially look out for cards with as few and in their casting costs as possible.
- Bulk goods: Some of your cards weigh down on your deck like a boulder. I myself like to call them "do-nothing-cards". Cards like Eye of the Storm or Thrummingbird do nothing on the turn you play them and after that only do something your deck already does on it's own. It's almost like you are playing an extra turn for your opponents. Cutting those kind of cards will streamline your deck and minimize awkward turns where nothing happens to progress your position.
- Win conditions: If you want to go for a competitive deck, having your deck trimmed towards as few win conditions as possible is of utmost importance. The most common ways to win with Mizzix are storm, burn, infinite mana & draw and taking turns (all of them). Pick 1 or 2 ways to win but build the whole deck around them. If one way to win supplements the other, even better. But spreading yourself thin over too many ways to win only slows you down.
- Key cards: I see you aren't playing some of the most played and best cards in any Mizzix deck. I'll list some, in no particular order of importance. Merchant Scroll, Gamble, Expropriate, Treasure Cruise, Dig Through Time, Fact or Fiction, Frantic Search, Faithless Looting, Reiterate, Mizzix's Mastery, Past in Flames, Mystic Retrieval, Increasing Vengeance, Chaos Warp, Bonus Round, Goblin Electromancer, Epic Experiment, Aetherflux Reservoir.
- Budget: Just as a heads-up, if you really want to make your deck competitive, you have to consider investing a good amount of money. Most of the time the best cards are the most expensive ones. While you can get by with some budget replacements here and there, at some point only the best cards are good enough. This isn't something you need to force right from the start, but can work towards over time.
Finally, I really hope I gave you some helpful advice and that you are not intimidated by my wall of text. Mizzix is a great commander and if you want, you can transform the deck into a fearsome weapon. Cheers!
6 days ago
After adding Past in Flames, I'm still 1-3 cards shy. Maybe this is a good time for some finishers for Mizzix? Also, why did you want me to keep Thousand-Year Storm? How good is it really? Same for the walkers?
6 days ago
Really, unless you can win instantly after casting Enter the Infinite (Lotus Petal into Rite of Flame into Desperate Ritual into Seething Song into Mana Crypt into Mana Vault into Sol Ring into Zealous Conscripts+Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, etc.) don't run it.
Leyline of Anticipation, Metallurgic Summonings, Omniscience, Stolen Strategy, Sunbird's Invocation, Swarm Intelligence, Mirari, Sentinel Tower, Swiftfoot Boots, Vedalken Orrery, Arcane Melee, Enhanced Surveillance, Jace's Sanctum, The Mirari Conjecture, Traumatize, Rise from the Tides, Crystal Shard, Expedition Map, Erratic Portal, Mana Cylix, Beacon Bolt, Stolen Identity, Laboratory Maniac, Melek, Izzet Paragon, Nivix Guildmage, Galvanoth, Echo Mage, Archaeomancer, Battle Hymn, and Fury Storm need to go, they don't do nearly enough.
Up next on the chopping board are every extra turn spell and every 'copy' effect, whether copying a creature/permanent or spell. It needs to go. Past in Flames is about all like that that is necessary. I feel Inner Fire is particularly bad... there are more cards to consider dropping think Jace's Sanctum, the Electromancer and Baral, but for now, their okay.
2 weeks ago
heres my competitive list, with some guidance
but personally the first thing to note is Dictate of Kruphix effects are bad and feed opponents too many draws while depending on other cards to actually deal damage
you need less creatures and enchantments and more Brainstorm effects, countermagic/protection,cheaper $ stuff like Commit, Cyclonic Rift Dream Fracture and Arcane Denial are a good start. you need a lot more ramp such as Talisman of Indulgence, Chromatic Lantern, Dark Ritual, Seething Song Cabal Ritual
last but not least nekusar is THE wheel commander, the slow grindy rout is what gets you focused and killed, you need a lot more of the available wheels like Molten Psyche, Dark Deal, Whispering Madness, Incendiary Command Windfall Memory Time Reversal
to make it faster without spending a budget like my list i would recommend the fork route to double wheels for the lethal damage or infect, stuff like Twincast Increasing Vengeance Bonus Round Reverberate Mission Briefing Past in Flames Hive Mind Swarm Intelligence Mizzix's Mastery to name a few
cut expensive cmc creatures and enchantments as well as Howling Mine effects which should remain only on nekusar himself. add more global looting effects and ramp, maybe a fork or counterspell or two and you'll be able to kill a table safer and faster
2 weeks ago
Past in Flames would be amazing in this deck, especially with all the rummage effects and loot effects filling your grave.
3 weeks ago
Token generators for protection from attacks:Talrand, Sky Summoner and Docent of Perfection Flip i would say are must haves, Metallurgic Summonings, Goblinslide, Young Pyromancer,Murmuring Mystic, Dragonmaster Outcast,are also good token makers.
Mana ramping for casting more: Seething Song, Mana Geyser, Brass's Bounty i think are must haves since they're all sorcery/instant so they can be effected by your commander to cast for less. Chandra, Torch of Defiance is a another good planeswalker to get mana and now you can have both planeswalkers out with the updated rules from August. You should add Vivid Creek to go with your vivid crag.
Other cards to lower casting costs: Primal Amulet Flip is a must since it lowers cost of ins/sorc and then it transforms when you want to get a land that can copy a spell. Arcane Melee, Seal of the Guildpact, Ruby Medallion,Sapphire Medallion,Jace's Sanctum are also nice.
Cards that damage opponents: Electrostatic Field and Sphinx-Bone Wand i think are must haves since they deal damage for every inst/sorc casted. Banefire, Devil's Play are great since they have the (x) in the cmc which is great for mizzix since it counts towards what you want (x) to be and you can always get an extra counter for mizzex.
Merchant Scroll is a decent tutor
Great staples: Charmbreaker Devils is a must have for the returning of inst/sorc alone. Crackling Drake can get huge power. Hypersonic Dragon casting sorcery at instant speed is great. Structural Collapse destroy a land and deal damage, and if copy it, who wouldn't want that, besides your enemies of coarse.
Wincons: Reiterate + Turnabout and Grand Architect + Pili-Pala are infinite mana combos, add Past in Flames or any damage cards with (x) in it and its deadly. Enter the Infinite is nice to get your combo's. Harness by Force is great to steal your opponents creatures then attack them with it, it also gets affected by mizzix so if you have enough counters itll cost 2 red mana and 1red mana for each extra creature.
Hope these suggestions help.
3 weeks ago
Good build overall, but where is Pyretic Ritual? Also with the mana potential you have in the deck I think Past in Flames would be a good addition, letting you double cast all the mana generators and grapeshot twice. I would take out Dragon Mantle
3 weeks ago
I agree, Scrap Trawler is definitely a candidate for inclusion.
As for the red rituals, I know I had tested at least Rite of Flame in the past, but don't remember why it didn't end up in the final version. If they were included, the self-mill into Past in Flames + Rituals + Scrap Mastery line would require to start, but without those cards it requires . I don't know if a 25% reduction is worth two card slots, but it's definitely possible. The most important things to consider are maintaining sufficient artifact density and card draw. If I had to pick cards to cut today, I'd probably look at removing the haste enablers (Swiftfoot Boots and Lightning Greaves).
Unfortunately, my cEDH playgroup has long since disbanded, and I no longer play the format. I've disassembled this deck, and sold many of its components. As a result, it's not possible for me to test the changes myself, but I encourage you to do so if you have the desire.
Winning with Codex Shredder requires an infinite untap engine (see the 'Combos' section of the deck description). Once you have this, you can use its tap ability to mill your opponents' decks. It can be useful to have Tormod's Crypt available in order to deal with any instant-speed graveyard shenanigans or shuffle triggers (e.g. Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre)
Winning with Pyrite Spellbomb requires infinite red mana and infinite recursion. The mana can be generated either by combining an infinite untap engine with a colored mana rock (Mox Diamond, Mox Opal, Chrome Mox, Prismatic Lens, Fellwar Stone), or by combining infinite recursion with Lion's Eye Diamond or Lotus Petal. Infinite recursion is most simply accomplished by having Salvaging Station in play while looping Myr Retriever and Junk Diver. Other approaches include infinitely casting Scrap Mastery (returning it with Codex Shredder), or combining an infinite untap engine with Goblin Welder and either Myr Retriever or Junk Diver.