Gruul Signet

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Joe_Ken_ on I don’t just want a Sliver I want the whole thing!

3 days ago

Your mana rocks are all 3 drops meaning you won't get any of them out till turn 3 and your slivers that help fix your mana both need green mana. Having 35 mana sources won't help if you don't draw enough lands or the right color to play any of them. I would recommend taking out Wild Pair since it is a 6 drop as well as the Sliver that turns all your Slivers into defenders, since that keeps you from attacking at all. Swap your 3 drop mana rocks to some better ones. I would recommend Pillar of Origins and the signet series of cards like Gruul Signet so you can ramp faster.

multimedia on THRO MOK [[Gruul Tokens]]

5 days ago

Hey, you're welcome. Fauna was just reprinted in Ultimate Masters, she's now a $5 card :)

I think Wave is worth playing because it's a damn powerful card, but I would cut most instants and sorceries for more permanents to make Wave better. This does make Young Pyromancer worse therefore I would cut him. Cards like Dragon Fodder and Krenko's Command are fine, but they're one shot spells that only give you two tokens. You can replace these with other creatures or permanents that give you repeatable tokens even if those cards are more mana. Nest Invader and Mogg War Marshal are other examples of permanents that could replace Fodder and Command.

Cultivate and Ranger's Path are fine cards, but I think they can be cut for creatures who land ramp because then you get two things, a land and a creature to devour. For instance Farhaven Elf can replace Cultivate. Solemn Simulacrum at $5 might be too expensive price, but he's an example that could replace Ranger's Path or Explosive Vegetation . Skyshroud Claim is a much better card than both Path and Vegetation. Another example is Garruk, Primal Hunter could replace Rishkar's Expertise because Garruk's -3 can be a repeatable first part of Expertise. Garruk however might also be out of your price range.

Gilded Lotus , Gruul Signet , Mind Stone can be cut for one drop mana dorks. Altar of the Brood and Hardened Scales can be cut for more dorks. Scales only interacts with three cards in your deck: Thromok, Mycoloth and Avenger. These are however two of the best cards here, but Scales doesn't do anything else for any other creatures for that reason I would cut it.

High CMC creatures who make tokens when they ETB can also be good cards, but only if you have easy ways to recur them or blink/bounce them. Of course there are exceptions such as Avenger. Cards that can be repeatable sources of tokens even if they cost more mana to play are more desirable. Pia and Kiran Nalaar is kind of lackluster here because not playing artifact strategies and the card only gives you two tokens. As a one time four mana play it's not good. Temur Sabertooth is a way to bounce a creature and play it again, it's excellent with the many green creatures who have strong ETB abilities such as Fierce Empath , Reclamation Sage , Eternal Witness , Wood Elves , etc.

Duskwatch Recruiter  ^Flip and Fauna Shaman should make creatures the priority because these cards only interact with creatures and the interaction is very good since they're engines to get creatures. Priest of Titania is one of the best mana dorks in Commander, if you have her add her especially if adding other mana Elves.

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Another strategy to experiment with Thromok is making your lands creatures since then they can be devoured. Living Lands , Life and Limb , Nissa, Vital Force , Sylvan Awakening . When devouring your lands you also wants ways to reanimate them: World Shaper , Ramunap Excavator , Splendid Reclamation .

Shaper has synergy with devour since he has to die to reanimate your lands. Living Lands curves into Thromok giving you devour fodder. The nice thing about Living Lands is your Forests are still lands, they can tap for mana, but they're also creatures who can be devoured.

Land reanimation is good with landfall and landfall is a part of the strategy of repeatable token creation. If you're choosing to add one drop mana dorks then Forests become more important than Mountains thus a higher number of Forests than Mountains.

Peaceful_Ninja on Shattergang Brothers Artifact Value Town

1 week ago

My maybe board is kinda wild right now as I need to playtest this with my group to see where I should adjust. Here is my maybe list: Aetherworks Marvel Bontu's Monument Cauldron of Souls Coalition Relic Eldrazi Monument Elixir of Immortality Goblin Bombardment Golgari Signet Grave Betrayal Gruul Signet Hedron Archive Lifecrafter's Bestiary Phyrexian Tower Rakdos Signet Reliquary Tower Rings of Brighthearth Sword of the Animist Tamiyo's Journal

livingrock on Creature Crush

2 weeks ago

Smoldering Spires Teetering Peaks Turntimber Grove Petrified Field Forgotten Cave Slippery Karst Smoldering Crater Tranquil Thicket Gruul Signet Kodama's Reach

multimedia on Thiefing

3 weeks ago

Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help. Good start, but I think you can expand on the stealing your opponents creatures strategy and get more value from creatures you steal. There's also several budget staple Commander cards to consider adding. All my cards suggestions are budget ($5 or less each).

Command Tower , Exotic Orchard , Reliquary Tower , Yavimaya Coast , Shivan Reef , Cinder Glade , Game Trail , Ash Barrens , Naya Panorama , Bant Panorama are all good budget lands that can ETB untapped. Captivating Crew , Willbreaker , Dominus of Fealty , Zealous Conscripts and Roil Elemental are repeatable sources of stealing. Evolutionary Leap , Ashnod's Altar , Greater Good are repeatable sources of value by sacing your opponent's creatures after you steal them. Use these sac outlets with Skullclamp for even more value. Sol Ring , Chromatic Lantern , Simic Signet , Gruul Signet , Izzet Signet , Talisman of Impulse , Fellwar Stone are staple mana rocks for Commander.

Rattleclaw Mystic , Elvish Mystic , Llanowar Elves , Arbor Elf are budget one drop mana dorks. Sakura-Tribe Elder , Nature's Lore , Farseek , Fertile Ground , Farhaven Elf is more good ramp. Fauna Shaman , Signal the Clans and Gamble are budget tutors. Mystic Remora , Eternal Witness , Chaos Warp , Beast Within , Reclamation Sage , Reality Shift , Stubborn Denial , Arcane Denial are staple Commander cards. Temur Ascendancy , Coiling Oracle , Trygon Predator , Dack's Duplicate and Shaman of the Great Hunt are good Temur cards.

Hero's Blade and Swiftfoot Boots is good equipment with Yasova. Temur Sabertooth is repeatable bounce of creatures who have good ETB abilities such as Conscripts.

If you like some of these suggestions I offer help to make cuts. Good luck with your deck.

SynergyBuild on Why Rampant Growth is bad.

3 weeks ago

"Yes, price. Rampant Growth is ~20 cents right now. Sure Gruul Signet , Golgari Signet , Simic Signet , Prismatic Lens , Llanowar Elves , Fractured Powerstone , Moss Diamond , Growth Spiral , Explore , Coiling Oracle , Broken Bond and tons more examples are equal to it or cheaper, but I am aware someone will bring it up."

Dear pskinn0,

I am very sorry all of the local game stores have had buyouts of the above, quoted cards. It is a real shame to know that you also aren't within the world that tcgplayer, card kingdom, or cfg will ship to. I'd recommend running an additional land to the decks that run the growth. Thank you for your response.

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But seriously. No possible replacements?

SynergyBuild on Why Rampant Growth is bad.

3 weeks ago

Ramp, card draw, and fatties are the 3 cornerstones of EDH as a concept to many players. Rampant Growth , Rampant Growth is the symbol of one of these three cornerstones (I am sure you'll never guess which one).

I am here to tell you, despite what you may have been told. It is bad. Really bad, not even medium bad like Cultivate (Yes, I hate that too, outside of some specific lists like Tatyova, where it belongs to some extent).

Why? Well, to start, mana production. It doesn't give you mana immediately without Amulet of Vigor , unlike 2- mana manarock variants like the signet cycle ( Azorius Signet , Gruul Signet ), talisman cycle ( Talisman of Indulgence , Talisman of Progress ), Mind Stone , Prismatic Lens , Fellwar Stone , etc.

So? Many decks are mono-colored and can't use signets, or talismans, or have cards like Null Rod / Kataki, War's Wage , etc. or go up against them often. Rampant Growth gives a land. Well, Nature's Lore and Three Visits both give you an untapped land, they can hit Shocklands or Duals to get your colors better than Rampant Growth , and generally are pretty good.

What else? Growth Spiral , Explore , Sakura-Tribe Elder , Farseek , etc. all do Rampant Growth better, and aren't even good.

None of these are great cards. Llanowar Elves , Fyndhorn Elves , Birds of Paradise , Elvish Mystic , Boreal Druid , etc. all do it for half the mana, a turn faster, and are in green. How is a 2 mana card better?

Fast artifact mana or land mana like Mana Crypt , Mana Vault , Sol Ring , Chrome Mox , Mox Diamond , Ancient Tomb , Gemstone Caverns , etc. all do more work in almost all cases.

Enchantment mana like Wild Growth , Utopia Sprawl , Fertile Ground , Carpet of Flowers , Exploration , Burgeoning , etc.

Even Broken Bond or other cards with ramp attached can do more work. Farhaven Elf or Wood Elves with an elf-tribal deck, or dorks, etc.

So, with all of this, is there any real reason to run the cancerous growth (see what I did there xD)?

Yes, price. Rampant Growth is ~20 cents right now. Sure Gruul Signet , Golgari Signet , Simic Signet , Prismatic Lens , Llanowar Elves , Fractured Powerstone , Moss Diamond , Growth Spiral , Explore , Coiling Oracle , Broken Bond and tons more examples are equal to it or cheaper, but I am aware someone will bring it up.

There are too many better cards for lands-matter decks to use it, and too many are cheaper, equally cheap, or better and worth the cost to claim they are the reason Rampant Growth should see play, etc.

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Seriously. If you run this card, stop.

Entity97 on A Cuberino

3 weeks ago

Cube Stats!
This past weekend saw my cube’s first seven player draft (eight had homework to finish). Now, some of them are filthy casuals but here are the deck lists drafted with (W-L) stats! No basic lands included, however.

Me – Mardu Angels (3-0)
Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Assemble the Legion
Baneslayer Angel
Boros Signet
Bruna, the Fading Light
Cavern of Souls
Conqueror's Galleon  ^Flip
Crystalline Crawler
Emeria Angel
Exhume
Faithless Looting
Gisela, the Broken Blade
Godless Shrine
Golgari Thug
Grim Monolith
Loyal Retainers
Lyra Dawnbringer
Nahiri, the Harbinger
Reanimate
Resplendent Angel
Restoration Gearsmith
Smuggler Captain (finds Reanimate )
Sphere of the Suns
Tidehollow Sculler
Windswept Heath

Pritch – Golgari Midrange (2-1)
Bayou
Chainer's Edict
Cryptbreaker
Damnation
Doom Blade
Doomed Dissenter
Go for the Throat
Golgari Grave-Troll
Golgari Signet
Grave Titan
Herald of Torment
Heir of the Wilds
Hissing Quagmire
Innocent Blood
Liliana of the Veil
Liliana, the Last Hope
Night Incarnate
Ravenous Chupacabra
Rite of Belzenlok
Scavenging Ooze
Sidisi, Undead Vizier
Thoughtseize
Thrun, the Last Troll
Tragic Slip
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
Verdant Catacombs
Westvale Abbey  ^Flip
Yahenni, Undying Partisan

Paul – Grixis Control (1-1)
Academy Ruins
Baleful Strix
Bitterblossom
Bituminous Blast
Brain Maggot
Creeping Tar Pit
Cruel Ultimatum
Cyclonic Rift
Eldrazi Monument
Force of Will
Havengul Lich
Inferno Titan
Kitesail Freebooter
Lich Lord of Unx
Mesmeric Fiend
Murderous Redcap
Nicol Bolas, the Ravager  ^Flip
Purphoros, God of the Forge
Rakdos's Return
Tezzeret, Artifice Master
Thassa, God of the Sea
Thing in the Ice  ^Flip
Twilight Prophet
Unscythe, Killer of Kings
Whirler Rogue

Abby – Bant Midrange (0-1)
Austere Command
Bow of Nylea
Celestial Colonnade
Counterspell
Courser of Kruphix
Crush of Tentacles
Dauntless Bodyguard
Elixir of Immortality
Felidar Sovereign
Glacial Fortress
Imposing Sovereign
Kiora, the Crashing Wave
Loxodon Hierarch
Mikaeus, the Lunarch
Noble Hierarch
Plaxcaster Frogling
Qasali Pridemage
Reclamation Sage
Sagu Mauler
Sakashima's Student
Selfless Spirit
Sigarda, Host of Herons
Simic Signet
Solemn Simulacrum
Sphinx's Revelation
Spirit of the Labyrinth
Sun Titan
Supreme Verdict
Suture Priest
Sword of War and Peace
Temple Garden
Terminus
Traveler's Amulet

Matt – Four Color Good Stuff (1-1)
Ancestral Vision
Arch of Orazca
Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim
Badlands
Birds of Paradise
Bomat Courier
Brimaz, King of Oreskos
Clifftop Retreat
Crop Rotation
Desolate Lighthouse
Domri Rade
Dualcaster Mage
Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
Experiment One
Ghost Quarter
Hallowed Fountain
Isolated Chapel
Lotus Cobra
Maze of Ith
Murderous Cut
Odric, Master Tactician
Path to Exile
Phyrexian Metamorph
Plateau
Price of Fame
Sacred Foundry
Savannah
Silverblade Paladin
Sunpetal Grove
Sword of Light and Shadow
Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
Tetzimoc, Primal Death
Through the Breach
Tropical Island
Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
Ultimate Price
Voice of Resurgence
Warden of the First Tree
Wasteland
Zacama, Primal Calamity

Ben – Temur Cascade– (0-1)
Akroma, Angel of Fury
Arboretum Elemental
Blasphemous Act
Bloodbraid Elf
Braid of Fire
Chief Engineer
Chrome Mox
City of Brass
Combustible Gearhulk
Deep Analysis
Dream Eater
Etched Champion
Eternal Witness
Fauna Shaman
Ghalta, Primal Hunger
Genesis Wave
Gruul Signet
Heart of Ramos
Hedron Archive
Hellkite Charger
Hinterland Harbor
Inkwell Leviathan
Izzet Signet
Kira, Great Glass-Spinner
Lumbering Falls
Maelstrom Wanderer
Master Transmuter
Metalwork Colossus
Mishra's Factory
Mox Opal
Myr Enforcer
Mystic Snake
Pact of Negation
Sai, Master Thopterist
Sarkhan Unbroken
Search for Azcanta  ^Flip
Shardless Agent
Sword of Fire and Ice
Taiga
Temporal Mastery
Urabrask the Hidden
Verdurous Gearhulk
Voidslime
Volatile Chimera (I forget what was on it, never came up)
Wurmcoil Engine

Courrtney – Green Black Delirium (0-1)
Avenger of Zendikar
Blood Artist
Dark Petition
Empty the Pits
Emrakul, the Promised End
Expedition Map
Explosive Vegetation
Garruk Relentless  ^Flip
Ghoulcaller Gisa
Great Sable Stag
Greenwarden of Murasa
Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni
Isareth the Awakener
Ishkanah, Grafwidow
Living Death
Master of the Wild Hunt
Mox Amber
Mox Diamond
Oracle of Mul Daya
Phyrexian Delver
Primeval Titan
Putrid Leech
Rampaging Baloths
See the Unwritten
Sylvan Ranger
Thran Dynamo
Volrath's Stronghold
Merciless Eternal
Whip of Erebos
Worn Powerstone