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12 hours ago
2 days ago
Hi Guint!! Here are some suggestions I think you could utilize for Ishkanah. So far it looks good!
The things we want to make sure you have in this deck are ways to activate delirium, as well as ways to activate Ish's tribal effects. Let's start with the spiders themselves~
If you can find it I definitely recommend buying a Swarmyard cause what's better than a land that prevents your dudes from dying?
Arachnogenesis Essentially a Fog with an added bonus of giving you a TON of spider tokens. Spider Spawning is also going to be a winner in this deck. Penumbra Spider gives you good value by making another token when it dies. Riptide Replicator is a fun artifact that can make spiders as well... and with all the tokens, a Parallel Lives and Second Harvest would definitely be cards to consider. Also a fan of the underused Parallel Evolution - it even has Flashback! Swarm them with tokens and then drop a Pathbreaker Ibex, Decimator of the Provinces or the ever coveted Craterhoof Behemoth... or you can go the route of Overwhelming Stampede.
Silklash Spider would be a good powerhouse to pick up. It's effect can kill off any flier on the board.
There aren't any other specific "spiders" that are noteworthy, but there are always shapeshifters. My favorite "spiders" are Metallic Mimic and Chameleon Colossus Alternatively you can get a Conspiracy and just make your whole deck into spiders. Then when they all die bring them back with Patriarch's Bidding.
Spiders have especially large butts on them, so Assault Formation can really be powerful. Things that benefit from the high toughness of spiders should also be up for consideration. Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper, Abzan Beastmaster, Grim Contest, and Kin-Tree Invocation are ones that come to mind immediately.
For a more tribal feel I def recommend trying out Archetype of Endurance and Archetype of Finality as well as Brawn and Filth. Bow of Nylea could be used as an alternative to Archetype of Finality if you so choose. There are also tribal artifacts such as Coat of Arms, Urza's Incubator, Obelisk of Urd and Door of Destinies.
Now onto the Delirium Mechanic. Making sure your own cards into the graveyard can seem counterproductive but a lot of things benefit from it. So first, how do we self mill?
- Deadbridge Chant is a personal favorite. Satyr Wayfinder, Crop Sigil, Grisly Salvage, Mulch, Grapple with the Past, Commune with the Gods, Benefaction of Rhonas, Sudden Reclamation. Stinkweed Imp or anything with Dredge. Golgari Grave-Troll is a popular one.
Now for some super fun cards that benefit from a graveyard presence.
- Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord, Lord of Extinction, Deathcap Cultivator, Deathrite Shaman, Traverse the Ulvenwald, Splendid Reclamation, and Meren of Clan Nel Toth. Did you mill a bunch of great cards you want back? Recursion is also a super powerful strategy. Eternal Witness is a Green staple for a reason. Greenwarden of Murasa, Seasons Past, Treasured Find, Animate Dead, Victimize. Sometimes you want to put specific things into the graveyard to fetch with recursion cards, so Entomb, Jarad's Orders, and Buried Alive become like tutors in a sense.
Now lets talk about Black and Green as colors in EDH. Black/Green has a few things that it needs to run undoubtedly. One of its major problems is card draw, so you're definitely going to want to auto-include Harmonize and Phyrexian Arena. I would also consider Lifecrafter's Bestiary.
Removal: Putrefy, Murder, Hero's Downfall, Abrupt Decay, Krosan Grip, Golgari Charm, Toxic Deluge, In Garruk's Wake, Acidic Slime, Beast Within. Dictate of Erebos to be used in conjunction with a sacrifice outlet like Ashnod's Altar (sac your extra tokens for mana!)
Ramp: Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, Solemn Simulacrum, Sol Ring, Explosive Vegetation, Thran Dynamo, Commander's Sphere, Golgari Signet, Cryptolith Rite, Harrow, Crop Rotation, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Yavimaya Elder.
The only other thing I want to say about your deck is that you should probably up your land count to at least 36. 30 is usually too little for most EDH decks in my experience. Unless you're going super aggro, you'll find yourself short on a lot of land drops.
If you wanted to upgrade your lands, here are some relatively inexpensive things you could add:
Golgari Rot Farm, Command Tower, Jungle Hollow, Temple of Malady, Woodland Cemetery, Overgrown Tomb, Llanowar Wastes, Tainted Wood, Grim Backwoods, Bojuka Bog, Hissing Quagmire, Temple of the False God, Drownyard Temple, Ghost Quarter, and any lands that Cycle in your colors :)
2 weeks ago
I think that Hero's Downfall just isnt good in modern, its good in casual and limited. Maelstrom Pulse can just hit more things, like artifacts and is great against token decks. Its just a more effective Putrefy also yea for sure +1 for me
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
I really like seeing decks on here that people have thought "Y'know i just wanna try that" instead of their take on tournament placing decks. So mad props to you mate!
This deck follows a similar vein to one that I used to run so heres a couple of my suggestions:
I like how you are adding demons for creature or card advantage, double down on that! I would drop both Reaper from the Abyss for either two more Indulgent Tormentor or a pair of Bloodgift Demon. Why Bloodgift? Because its another card with a draw effect but can also be used to deal a critical 1 damage to the opponent. Plus if someone uses Sever the Bloodline on your Tormentor then Bloodgift wont die as well :)
Elves and other token decks make big showings in most casual or non-competition modern gamedays. Sideboarding a Demon of Dark Schemes or 2 could make all the difference against those decks if you can play him before 2 or 3 lords pump on the little guys.
Vraska the Unseen always looks like a fun planeswalker to run, but unless you can keep her alive AND hit with the token she is just a good defense as your opponent spends a turn killing her. Playing big stompy creatures means you arent likely to have too many little blockers to save her life so I would have to say drop her and add Garruk Wildspeaker. This Garruk can untap lands, notably the ones enchanted with Weirding Wood or a Golgari Rot Farm. He also gives you a chance to trample some big damage at your opponent.
If you do decide to keep Vraska the Unseen in this deck then i would suggest adding a Rogue's Passage as an inabler for her tokens. Adding it mainboard means that you can also let a few cheeky demons through.
Griselbrand is a powerful demon. Not neccessary or particularly powerful in this deck, but if your opponent knows your playing it then they will at least be trying to take it out. So its up to you about its use as a bluff/powerhouse. I personally wouldnt play him though.
However Lord of the Void is a BEAST if he goes well. I would add one to sideboard to play if your opponent is also playing a slow deck.
Both Ob Nixilis, the Fallen and Ob Nixilis, Unshackled deserve play in your deck, fallen most of all. The more lands you get the more he hurts! And Unshackled is a good sideboard card against particularly tutor-y decks.
As far as the rest of the support goes you have put heaps of thought into the balance! Its real nice! I would switch Explosive Vegetation for Harrow personally, as I have an attachment to the card and also because it means you can follow it with a Farseek or Sakura-Tribe Elder. It ends up being slightly faster than Explosive vegetation in this sense, but maybe you dont like the waste, and thats reasonable. Also seeing as you arent playing any dual lands (by the way if you get a chance, play some dual lands) Farseek is worse than Rampant Growth. So definitly switch them :)
I LOVE Fungal Sprouting. It just so fun to be playing a stompy creature deck and suddenly have a spawn fest. But because this deck is a little slower, Fog might be more valuable as it can save your life earlier.
What do i mean by that? Well Both Doom Blade and Putrefy are good at what they do for sure! But In Garruk's Wake is just too slow for modern, as by turn 3 or 4 you will need to clear your opponents board. However it does kill creatures. so i would break In Garruk's Wake into two parts, the board wipe Damnation (or equivalent) and the planeswalker slaying Hero's Downfall. You could use Ruinous Path for its awaken bonus but i think its too slow at sorcery speed. With that, Doom Blade has its downside as you noted about not hitting black creatures; Ta-Da! Hero's Downfall hits them :)
SO my suggestion are
- -2 Reaper from the Abyss
- +2 Bloodgift Demon
- -1 Vraska the Unseen
- -1 Garruk, Apex Predator (He's just too slow sorry)
- +2 Garruk Wildspeaker
- -3 Farseek
- +3 Rampant Growth
- -2 Fungal Sprouting
- +2 Fog
- -1 In Garruk's Wake
- +1 Damnation
- -3 Doomblade
- +3 Hero's Downfall
I realise this a lot of text, but I didnt just want to throw card names at you, i wanted to let you know why I would suggest things. This ends up being nothing like what i play but all my suggestions are based on what i saw you thinking about, and my practices as a Black dominant player. Hope i helped or gave you ideas :)
2 weeks ago
Hey, bro, whaddup?
Well, let's get this sorted out: your deck need some improvement. You're on the right track, and Modern has never ever been control-friendly as it is right now, even though we're living in a Death's Shadow spree. But the point of playing control is having fast answers to trouble, and your list seems a bit too slow. I don't know how is your budget for this deck, so, for every suggestion I'll bring along a budget option too.
- The most common decks in modern run at most 3 colors. If you wanna run 4 colors, you need a slightly better mana-base. Fetchlands like Flooded Strand and Windswept Heath, along with shocklands (Temple Garden, Hallowed Fountain, Breeding Pool, Godless Shrine, Watery Grave and Overgrown Tomb are your colors) will bring you the manafixing you need. You gonna lose some life, but trust me, it's worth it. Budget: you might consider running some Botanical Sanctum, Blooming Marsh and Concealed Courtyard too. They were printed in Kaladesh, so they still a bit 'cheap'. Amonkhet brought a set of fetchable lands too, so you might run Irrigated Farmland, Fetid Pools or Scattered Groves with the Khans of Tarkir fetchlands and this may also work.
- Your removal spells are soooo expensive. I mean, you're running 3 copies of a 2-mana sorcery-speed removal. That's hardly ever useful. When I saw you were running Witch-Maw colors I was expecting some Abrupt Decay, Path to Exile and Fatal Push. These are some of the best removal spells of all time, and they're all available for . Nonetheless, they're also very good with Snapcaster Mage. And about Hero's Downfall, well... it's a cool card, but I wouldn't run 4 copies. Budget: Even for cheaper options we have awesome cards like Condemn, Vendetta, Murderous Cut, Victim of Night, Mortify and Putrefy. (Ok, these last two aren't sooo great, but at least they're instants and can handle some paralel trouble.)
- Your choices for counterspells are very connected to the fact you run a removal-heavy deck, so you don't really need to counter creature spells. That's ok. But Dissolve is a card that rarely ever saves a game due to its mana cost. It's double blue for some small advantage. I'd recommend going for Remand or even Logic Knot. If you reeeeally like blue stuff (like me), you might even try to fit Cryptic Command in, but I don't recommend it in a 4-color. Budget: Rune Snag, Mana Leak are very competitive options too.
- Finishers: Well, every deck needs to win some way. I really love AEtherling, this card is sooo awesome, but as I said on Jwillette72's deck Don't wake horror! (Sung like Don't Wake Daddy) once: he's far too slow for modern. By the time you drop him, you will (very likely) be nearly dead already and he won't save you. For a 6-drop I really like Elspeth, Sun's Champion. She is such a power-house. For similar reasons, I have my concerns about Desecration Demon. Sure, he's one of the fattest creatures you'll drop for 4 mana, but he is very susceptible to your opponents actions. I mean, if you're playing against someone with Lingering Souls on their deck, you're very likely to never attack with him. (by the way, you could use some of this card here too) Also, he is very easily handled by Path to Exile and Fatal Push. For a quick beatdown, I'd probaly go for Tasigur, the Golden Fang and/or Geist of Saint Traft. These are awesome finishers, and a little harder to deal with than the Demon and the Aether Guy. Budget: Gurmag Angler does the Tasigur job very good too. Blood Baron of Vizkopa is also a good option. Aaaand, four copies of Lingering Souls with Zealous Persecution can be a solid strategy too, trust me.
- I imagine you're trying to do a sort of boardlock with Blind Obedience, but Authority of the Consuls does exactly the same thing for even less mana. You lose the Exort ability, but if you keep paying this, you might end up tapped-out and that is not what a control deck wants. But keep the Detention Spheres, this card rules.
Anyhow, I really like your deck and support what you're scheming here. If you want more tips, feel free to ask.
3 weeks ago
Do you know what the difference between competitive and budget is? A winning concept. Some of the now-competitive decks at one point were simple budget friendly decks before they were proven winners. Look at the cheerios deck, minus Mox Opal of course, and even then it can be substituted out because of Paradise Mantle. I think you have a strong concept here, but generally one color is going to have a weak point. Green is weak in removal, so if you splashed black for cards like Fatal Push, Dismember, Inquisition of Kozilek, Hero's Downfall, Putrefy, or Abrupt Decay, you can still be budget friendly and add a control element to your deck. Especially since most of those are one devotion to black mama symbols, you wouldn't have to spend an arm and leg on fetch lands. Temple of Malady, Woodland Cemetery, Golgari Rot Farm, Jungle Hollow, and City of Brass are all relatively budget friendly dual lands or produce one of any color. You could also splash White for cards like Path to Exile, Journey to Nowhere, Immolating Glare, Smite, and Brave the Elements to get around blockers. Blue even has return to hand spells that can let you run a play set of counter spell cards in the deck if you want to control the board while you build your army. Just a thought.
3 weeks ago
You should considering adding more Instants so you can trigger Vial Smasher on your opponents turns. That is kind of his real power. - Putrefy- Beast Within- Chaos Warp- Abrupt Decay- Worldly Tutor- Vampiric Tutor- Rakdos Charm This card is stupid good in almost any game of EDH- Murder- Sudden Spoiling
just to name a few that would be decent. Removal is always good, along with tutors. I cannot highlight Rakdos Charm enough. In a game of EDH, I usually find that someone is either playing lots of creatures or playing a GY focused deck and the charm hoses both of those strategies. It is entirely possible to 1 shot people with the charm when people go for a kiki-jiki combo.